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If your best players hadn't gone pro, would your team beat BC?

Re: If your best players hadn't gone pro, would your team beat BC?

PROVICED} could bring back Tim Army and Chris Terreri and they'd probably beat them. Of course, they'd then lose to a D-III school that plays D-I hockey... :p
 
Re: If your best players hadn't gone pro, would your team beat BC?

Gurt, I know that was primarily directed at JDUBBS, but I feel this all started (him throwing a nutty) after me saying BC was the envy of every college hockey program over the last decade+. I didn't say historically, nor did I imply it.
 
Re: If your best players hadn't gone pro, would your team beat BC?

My favorite representation of a fanbase that knows so little about the game of hockey that they chant "sieve" after empty net goal, and even more baffling one time I witnessed them do it when they got scored on to go down 4-1. They don't understand icing, they are baffled by an offsides call, but they sure love to invent goofy cheers and dances to distract themselves from having to watch the game.

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Re: If your best players hadn't gone pro, would your team beat BC?

I envy the recent success that BC has had, but I don't envy their program. I respect their program as a historical peer program to the one that I am a fan of. The same can be said for Denver, UND, Michigan, BU and yes, even the Gophers. We're the big boys and there's not a separate table for a biggest boy.

Great job. Honest question out of curiosity... was BC at the big boy table before Saturday night with just 4 titles? Or did they just get seated at a new table this week after bagging #5?
 
Re: If your best players hadn't gone pro, would your team beat BC?

Those same goofy cheers and dances would be called "tradition" if they were done by Minnesota.
 
Re: If your best players hadn't gone pro, would your team beat BC?

Hey though, give UW credit. Even though the dances are goody, they are tradition. And that is more than UND has.
 
Re: If your best players hadn't gone pro, would your team beat BC?

Nick, as a BC fan....

Historically, I think BC joined the Big Table with the win Saturday night. They separated themselves from those who have three (don't think anyone has four), have arguably passed BU historically and are on the same level as Minnesota (calm down, JDUBBS).
 
Re: If your best players hadn't gone pro, would your team beat BC?

Great job. Honest question out of curiosity... was BC at the big boy table before Saturday night with just 4 titles? Or did they just get seated at a new table this week after bagging #5?
If I may, the recent nature of their success is hard to put out of your head (so sometimes it's hard to ignore how little happened for BC between the 50s and the mid-90s), but at the same time, it's also hard to ignore that BC had not only won 4 titles before last weekend, but they had also been to six other title games. That's pretty impressive.
 
Re: If your best players hadn't gone pro, would your team beat BC?

I don't know how many FFs BC was in between 1950 and 2000, but I think it was a pretty hefty amount. It's not like they were simply terrible during that stretch.
 
Re: If your best players hadn't gone pro, would your team beat BC?

Gurt, I know that was primarily directed at JDUBBS, but I feel this all started (him throwing a nutty) after me saying BC was the envy of every college hockey program over the last decade+. I didn't say historically, nor did I imply it.

I think that anyone who says that they don't wish that their team had won 3 of the past 5 titles is a liar. Your recent success is the envy of all of college hockey. How could it not be?

As I stated, I'd still rather be a Badger fan. It's who I am (in the context of college hockey fandom - of course).
 
Nick, as a BC fan....

Historically, I think BC joined the Big Table with the win Saturday night. They separated themselves from those who have three (don't think anyone has four), have arguably passed BU historically and are on the same level as Minnesota (calm down, JDUBBS).

As a Gopher fan, I find it insulting. Sorry, and I mean no disrespect when I say this, but your program just isn't in the same class as ours. I'd say one step below ours. And that is just my honest opinion.
 
Re: If your best players hadn't gone pro, would your team beat BC?

Jerry York needs to flip his car on the Interstate and BC will be on the same step as Minnesota.
 
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I'm in a Hockey State of Mind in Minnesota
By Joe Gravellese
Published:*Thursday, January 24, 2008
Updated:*Saturday, November 14, 2009
"Dad, you won't believe this. There's more Bruins stuff here than there is at home."
I had to call my father; who else would I call when walking into a great shrine of hockey?
"Here" was the Mall of America, the bastion of American consumerism lying on the outskirts of the great city of Minneapolis, Minn.
Naturally, I had to check out every store with sports memorabilia. (There are times when I am glad that I have no money. If I ever did come into money, I'm sure most of it would go to such stores. Who wouldn't pay $3,000 for an autographed panoramic photo of the 1980 U.S. Olympic Team?)
As one would expect in the state that dubs itself "the State of Hockey," the game is omnipresent - and it's hard to walk too far without finding NHL and college hockey apparel.
Like the baseball fan's trip to Fenway Park, the football fan's journey to Lambeau Field, the music lover's visit to Carnegie Hall, and the history buff's walk along the Freedom Trail, every member of the great church of hockey should make the pilgrimage to the Holy Land that is Minnesota.
When I was around 10 years old, I saw Boston University (yeah, them) play against the Minnesota Golden Gophers on TV at Marriucci Arena in Minneapolis. Something about that arena and that game resonated with me, and stuck in my consciousness for years - and the more I read about it and thought about it, the more I decided that I had to get out there for a game. I finally made it this month, as a Gophers men's game coincided with the visit of the Boston College women's hockey team to Minnesota.
I'm not really sure what it was that drew me in. Fans at Boston University's Agganis Arena and the University of New Hampshire's Whittemore Center are just as loud, and their stadium is nearly as nice as Mariuicci (sadly, our antiseptic Conte Forum, with its half-empty seating bowl at the drop of the puck, does not make that list).
But there is something about the way people live the game in Minneapolis that makes it different, and makes it special.
Everywhere I went in Minneapolis, I saw people wearing Gophers jackets and sweatshirts. Every store seemed to carry something with the "M" logo on it. The local newspaper provided wall-to-wall coverage of the weekend's series.
The only real comparison that I can come up with for the love that people have for the Golden Gophers in Minneapolis is the way Boston embraces the Red Sox.
But even that seems like a flawed analogy. The unique thing about the University of Minnesota's team is that it is composed almost entirely of players from in-state. With so much talent in-state (an estimated 45,000 Minnesotan kids play youth hockey each year), it seems unnecessary to go elsewhere.
As such, the following for the Gophers seems more akin to Italians following their national soccer team.
On the night I went, the Gophers were playing against in-state rival St. Cloud State. Over 10,500 people filled the arena and seemingly all of them were decked out in maroon and gold (I can't help but love the colors).
It's quite a feeling to walk into Mariucci Arena for the very first time. The first thing that struck me was just the size of the place. There is one seating bowl, and it is very steep in order to give everyone in attendance a great view of the ice. Because of that incline, the bowl seems massive. If you've ever been to BU, picture the Agganis Arena - then add about 4,000 seats and a ring of very impressive luxury boxes.
The walk around the concourse is also jaw-dropping for the first-time visitor. Murals, posters, and banners highlighting great moments in Gopher history are all around. One of the greatest trophies in sports, the McNaughton Cup, given annually to the WCHA's regular-season champion, was proudly on display in the trophy case.
The game itself is also a different experience from what we get at home. While I'm proud to say that our student section is just as good if not better than their's (they are more creative with their chants, but we are louder throughout the game), the way the entire crowd was so involved in the game was such a jolt from the usual emotionless BC crowd. Great saves, great chances, and good plays brought the entire crowd to its feet.
And when the Gophers scored, the arena sprung to life as the fans went into their favorite cheer: "M-I-N-N-E-S-O-T-A! Minnesota! Minnesota! Yeahhhhhhhhhh ... GOPHERS!"
I'm not impressed by much, as I tend to hold sporting venues to the nearly impossible standard of Fenway Park. But that particular moment was quite impressive.
Living hockey in Minneapolis is not just limited to the Gopher men's team. The Gopher women's hockey team has its own beautiful 4,500-seat arena. Indoor and outdoor skating rinks are everywhere. And one of the crown jewels of Minnesota sports, the annual High School Hockey tournament, draws over 16,000 fans each year to the Xcel Energy Center, home of the Minnesota Wild.
So I guess the right analogy is some sort of cross between Texas football, Italian soccer, and Boston baseball. Sound good?
I'm a Boston guy, through and through, and BC is the only place where I could ever see myself. But now that I've made my dream visit to Minneapolis a reality, there will always be a place in my heart for the hockey-loving school on the banks of the Mississippi.

<a href="http://www.bcheights.com/mobile/2.6175/i-m-in-a-hockey-state-of-mind-in-minnesota-1.907766">BC Heights Article</a>
 
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I think that anyone who says that they don't wish that their team had won 3 of the past 5 titles is a liar. Your recent success is the envy of all of college hockey. How could it not be?

As I stated, I'd still rather be a Badger fan. It's who I am (in the context of college hockey fandom - of course).

The first part...precisely my point. I didn't mean anything more than that. And the second part...perfectly understandable.

JDUBBS, I don't care.
 
Re: If your best players hadn't gone pro, would your team beat BC?

Great job. Honest question out of curiosity... was BC at the big boy table before Saturday night with just 4 titles? Or did they just get seated at a new table this week after bagging #5?

I don't know. Does it matter what I think about that? How do you feel about your program?

Prior to the past 5 years, if I can remember what it was like to think of BC back then, I still knew of them as a high quality program. IMO though, BC has elevated themselves over the past few years and taken a spot at that table. I personally place a lot of importance on National Championships (NCAA ones). FFs, regular season titles, Bean pots, etc are validated by finishing the job from time to time with a Natty. IMO, of course.

So yeah, you needed more than 2 titles to be considered an historically elite (keyword being elite) program. It's relative. What have the other programs done? Where is the bump in the curve? Looking at programs and who the big boys are, I think 4 would be the minimum. Obviously, that's arbitrary on my part, but when the top program has 9, two others have 7, we have 6 and two others had 5 (at the time), 4 was probably on the cut. 5 is solid.

So, welcome to a RESERVED seat at the "Big Boys Table!" :p:D
 
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Jerry York needs to flip his car on the Interstate and BC will be on the same step as Minnesota.

I don't get shocked too often, but WOW!

Call me a sicko, but that was horribly funny, in a horrible way.

I feel bad about myself for finding that funny.

What's wrong with me?

EDIT: Funny wasn't probably what I meant. Just an incredibly low blow that came out of left field and was therefore surprising.

I appreciate the well timed (and even ill-advised) low blow from time to time. I'm flawed that way and that was pretty low, even for Dirty.

Someone dying is never funny, so apologies for implying that dying is funny. The timing within the context of this stupid ****ing match was what I found funny.
 
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Looks like some BC fans get it...

"The only real comparison that I can come up with for the love that people have for the Golden Gophers in Minneapolis is the way Boston embraces the Red Sox.

But even that seems like a flawed analogy. The unique thing about the University of Minnesota's team is that it is composed almost entirely of players from in-state. With so much talent in-state (an estimated 45,000 Minnesotan kids play youth hockey each year), it seems unnecessary to go elsewhere.

As such, the following for the Gophers seems more akin to Italians following their national soccer team."
 
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Wait, so you're saying there are more Minnesota fans than BC fans and that Minnesota has a lot of in-state players? Where have I heard that before...
 
Re: If your best players hadn't gone pro, would your team beat BC?

Wait, so you're saying there are more Minnesota fans than BC fans and that Minnesota has a lot of in-state players? Where have I heard that before...

Seriously, he will go round and round on this. You won't outlast him. No one ever has.

Sure, it's fun to poke him from time to time. Just be glad that he's not in your conference though coz fun turns to monotonous all too soon.
 
We keep acting like minnesota doesn't have to recruit out of state, but then why have they been so irrelevant lately? When you factor in stupid fans like jdubbs, perhaps the reality is no one from outside of Minnesota wants to go there.
 
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