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I Think I'll Go For A Walk - Death Pool Thread

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Old Pio said:
Man, you've got to feel some empathy for those folks who have lost their jobs. Very tough economy. Holidays approaching. Where do people who have worked for years in big, industrial baking plants go to find work? With anything like the benefits (even though reduced) they had at Hostess?

I suppose the changing tastes of the public and inability or unwillingness to modernize their product line is what ultimately caused Hostess to collapse. Union intransigence apparantly didn't help, either. Still, tough on the little guys. Like it always is.
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This has nothing to do with changing tastes, but rather the intransigence of the leaders of the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International Union that represents about 5,000 Hostess employees. They brought it upon their members and the other 13K+ non-union Hostess employees.

"We deeply regret the necessity of today's decision, but we do not have the financial resources to weather an extended nationwide strike," said CEO Gregory Rayburn in a statement.

"It's been a very sad day," Rayburn told CNN. "I think that this was just a monumental failure on the part of everyone involved, and it was just the wrong outcome."
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On the up side, some company could step in and save the day.

Hostess will move to sell its assets to the highest bidder. That could mean new life for some of its most popular products, which could be scooped up at auction and attached to products from other companies.

A letter that Hostess sent to its network of stores that carry its product said it expects "there will be great interest in our brands." But it said it could not give a time frame for when the sales would take place and when its products would be available again.
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I certainly feel empathy for those losing their jobs (having been out of a full time job since the week of Barry's coronation :mad:). They have no one to blame but the union bosses for what their future holds.

...(E)ven if those brands are bought and restarted, the Hostess workers will not get their jobs back.
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With all due respect to our resident MD, I think you might be reading into this too much. Personally, I believe there are many other 'sugar fix' options out there now. Americans drink way more pop today than we did in the 60s and 70s. My parents (born '55 and '57) talk about how they used to have to beg for a chocolate soda, or Coke, or whatever. What's more, "diet" pop seems to be bigger than ever, but is made with engineered sweeteners that we're starting to realize are even worse for us than good old sucrose. :p

However, I don't think the government should be regulating this; it's up to the American people to decide what to drink/eat. If I want a Dr. Brown's with my 1/2 lb. of corned beef or pastrami jammed into a couple slices of mustard-smeared rye, then dammit, that is how it should be.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
With all due respect to our resident MD, I think you might be reading into this too much. Personally, I believe there are many other 'sugar fix' options out there now. Americans drink way more pop today than we did in the 60s and 70s. My parents (born '55 and '57) talk about how they used to have to beg for a chocolate soda, or Coke, or whatever. What's more, "diet" pop seems to be bigger than ever, but is made with engineered sweeteners that we're starting to realize are even worse for us than good old sucrose. :p

However, I don't think the government should be regulating this; it's up to the American people to decide what to drink/eat. If I want a Dr. Brown's with my 1/2 lb. of corned beef or pastrami jammed into a couple slices of mustard-smeared rye, then dammit, that is how it should be.
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Just offering a bit of opinion. Over the years i have seen so much crapola on TV and the rest of the media telling everyone what is good for them. Then in a few years they reverse themselves and tell you that it is not as good as first thought and perhaps even bad. Over the years the Butter vs Margarine controversy, the various scenarios about all the different artificial sweeteners, etc. Every time reports come out about what is thought to be healthy or unhealthy has to wreck havoc with these companies. Is this the total problem with Hostess? of course not. But it has affected soda companies, soup companies, and just about anything you can think of. I have had patients tell be they are just bewildered about it. As far as the government regulating what you eat or drink-I could not agree with you more. I have always been an advocate of taking personal responsibility for your actions. Who is Mayor Bloomberg or anyone else to tell me that i cannot order a soft drink larger than 16 ounces? Next they will tell me I cannot order a 3 egg omelet, or even worse a chocolate egg cream(if you can find them any more). And if you are going to order a Dr. Brown's-I hope it is the cream soda flavor-I still have an incredible weakness for that (but hated the celery tonic).:)
 
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DrDemento said:
Just offering a bit of opinion. Over the years i have seen so much crapola on TV and the rest of the media telling everyone what is good for them. Then in a few years they reverse themselves and tell you that it is not as good as first thought and perhaps even bad. Over the years the Butter vs Margarine controversy, the various scenarios about all the different artificial sweeteners, etc. Every time reports come out about what is thought to be healthy or unhealthy has to wreck havoc with these companies. Is this the total problem with Hostess? of course not. But it has affected soda companies, soup companies, and just about anything you can think of. I have had patients tell be they are just bewildered about it. As far as the government regulating what you eat or drink-I could not agree with you more. I have always been an advocate of taking personal responsibility for your actions. Who is Mayor Bloomberg or anyone else to tell me that i cannot order a soft drink larger than 16 ounces? Next they will tell me I cannot order a 3 egg omelet, or even worse a chocolate egg cream(if you can find them any more). And if you are going to order a Dr. Brown's-I hope it is the cream soda flavor-I still have an incredible weakness for that (but hated the celery tonic).:)
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No egg creams? :(

BTW, I switched to Splenda because it was the first artificial sweetener that didn't taste badly in my opinion. Then I started to read things about it and decided to go back to sugar almost entirely.

By the way, my German class homework from a week ago to yesterday was to create a company and convince others in the course who played the part of bankers, enviromentalist, and politicians to support it. One of my classmates proposed starting a Hostess clone in Germany and attempted to bribe the panel (including me as a banker) with samples. :D
 
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Ralph Baer said:
No egg creams? :(

BTW, I switched to Splenda because it was the first artificial sweetener that didn't taste badly in my opinion. Then I started to read things about it and decided to go back to sugar almost entirely.

By the way, my German class homework from a week ago to yesterday was to create a company and convince others in the course who played the part of bankers, enviromentalist, and politicians to support it. One of my classmates proposed starting a Hostess clone in Germany and attempted to bribe the panel (including me as a banker) with samples. :D
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Ralph: If we live long enough, I am convinced you and i will find that everything we think is healthy for us today-will be found to have something dangerous about it in the future. No question there are some things that are obviously bad-but i don't think anyone needs to tell us that. As physicians, we sometimes act so smug about our recommendations and act so sure of ourselves-only to reverse everything we said 20-30 years later when we find out we really did not know diddley about some long term side effect. I am pretty sure for me that adding 6 months or a year to my life by avoiding Fox's U-Bet chocolate syrup in my egg cream or not munching on Devil Dogs is just not worth it. But that is my decision to make. By that late stage i will probably be slobbering all over myself in a wheelchair anyway. i cannot imagine living my life just eating and drinking what someone else tells me to (I left home at 15 to get away from that).;)
 
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Clarkson goalie Andy Kostka. (He only played in one game in the 99-00 season, so most here probably never heard of him.)

http://obituaries.kozlakradulovich.com/

I played pickup broomball with him a few times. He was pretty dang amazing in a pair of sponge shoes.
 
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Olympic historian and long-time Penn State professor John Lucas passed away on Nov. 9 at age 84.

Since 1952, Lucas had documented and researched the modern Olympic games, amassing a collection (162 cubic feet) that is unparalleled outside the official International Olympic Committee (IOC) holdings. In 2010, he gave this collection to the Penn State University Archives. Aside from the London Olympics this past summer, Lucas attended every summer Olympic Games since 1960. An avid runner, Lucas had the opportunity to run on every Olympic track during those years, with his final Olympic "lap" coming at the Athens Olympics in 2004. He also was honored with the title of "Official International Olympic Committee Lecturer" in 1992, and with the Olympic Order Medal by the IOC in 1996.
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Ralph Baer said:
it was the first artificial sweetener that didn't taste badly in my opinion
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I'm not sure why I'm feeling the need to be a grammar nazi right now, but artificial sweeteners can't taste, and so they can't taste badly. They taste bad. Of course, if anyone feels that I am behaving badly, that will make me feel bad. :) Carry on...
 
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duper said:
I'm not sure why I'm feeling the need to be a grammar nazi right now, but artificial sweeteners can't taste, and so they can't taste badly. They taste bad. Of course, if anyone feels that I am behaving badly, that will make me feel bad. :) Carry on...
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I went to a tech school, sorry. :p Then again, I should have learned that before college. :(
 
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Ralph Baer said:
I went to a tech school, sorry. :p Then again, I should have learned that before college. :(
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If that's the biggest mistake you made this month, then you had a much better month than me. :)
 
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Larry Hagman :(

Larry Hagman, who played the conniving and mischievous J.R. Ewing on the TV show "Dallas," died Friday afternoon at a Dallas hospital, the Dallas Morning News reported. He was 81.

Hagman died of complications of his recent battle with cancer, members of his family said.
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Dang, he looked like he was doing fairly well in the last interview I saw; must've been a sudden turn. That's gonna kill the Dallas reboot after this season, since he is/was that show.

That said, before I knew anything of Dallas, I remember watching Nick At Nite as a kid in the 90s. I Dream of Jeannie was in their regular rotation of 50s and 60s classic sitcoms, and he was just as great playing army buffoon Major Nelson.
 
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