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I can't believe there's no MSU - Miami thread
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Re: I can't believe there's no MSU - Miami thread
Which team has a better TUC record? Clearly, Minnesota is the worst ranked #2 school in the history of history.
(Not really my thoughts on the Gophers, you my friend, just aren't very smart)
Which team has a better TUC record? Clearly, Minnesota is the worst ranked #2 school in the history of history.
(Not really my thoughts on the Gophers, you my friend, just aren't very smart)
Pirateasaurus
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Re: I can't believe there's no MSU - Miami thread
It's frustrating how little I care about the Gophers right now and how much people are getting into it with them in our series thread.
It's frustrating how little I care about the Gophers right now and how much people are getting into it with them in our series thread.
Back2BackU-MnPride2002
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Re: I can't believe there's no MSU - Miami thread
LOL, Miami is no worse a #3 than the Gophers are a #2, eh?!
WOW, and all because the RPI, a rating system respected by about 5% of sports fans, says so, eh?!
Well, fellowes has hinted that this thread is possibly heading in a bad direction, so I will say one last thing and honestly I doubt there will be any response, because like when I posted the FACTS and EVIDENCE to back up my original statements, that seemed to quite all of your criticisms and maybe these facts and evidence will do the same?
Minnesota vs UR Mich St - Won 2 games by total of 12-2.
Minnesota vs UR Vermont - Won 2 games by total of 8-2.
Minnesota vs #24 Air Force - Won 4-0.
Minnesota vs #12 Notre Dm - Won 4-1.
Minnesota vs # 5 Boston C - Won 8-1.
Minnesota vs # 4 No Dak - W-T by total of 9-5.
I'm showing you these random results to show you that sure, like a lot of teams, we play a lot of tight matchups, losing 2-3 on a Friday to someone like Wisconsin, and then beating them 3-2 on Saturday, but in most of those cases, we'd be more dominant in our other series with that same team.
And pretty regularly throughout the season, we'd also show that we are CLEARLY worthy of our #2 rating which can be seen by the results I listed above, whether its an unranked team like Vermont, or the #24 ranked Atlantic Hockey Runners-Up Air Force, or the #12 ranked CCHA Runners-Up Notre Dame, or the #5 ranked Hockey East Runners-Up Boston College or the #4 ranked WCHA 3rd place team UND, the Gophers have risen up to really pound on those teams.
BC was ranked #1, until we pummeled em.
ND was ranked #2, until we pummeled em.
UND would have won the WCHA and would probably be ranked #2 had we not won 3 out of 4 pts vs them in our 2 games.
And my guess is if we played Rensselaer, we'd pound them silly as well. But we couldn't apparently fit EVERY Conf runner-up in our schedule.
But Minnesota CLEARLY deserves the #2 ranking, and some question whether they shouldn't be #1? Quinipiac has kind of played a weaker schedule like Miami has, but they've won more of those games, so enough doubt remains that many give them the benefit of the doubt.
How does Miami compare?!
Miami vs UR Michigan W-L by total of 6-7 the opposite of dominant.
Miami vs UR Ferris St W-L by total of 4-5 again, the opposite of dominant.
Miami vs UR Provdnce W-T by total of 5-4 that's what we call, just barely.
Miami vs UR Mich St W-T by total of 4-2 compare that with UMn's 12-2 total vs MSU.
Miami vs UR Lk Sup St W-L by total of 3-3 not superior at all.
Miami vs UR Ohio St W-L by total of 4-5 the opposite of dominant.
Miami vs UR Rbrt Mrrs L by score of 0-1 couldn't even score on lowly Robert Morris?
Miami vs UR N Mich U L-T by score of 4-5 the opposite of dominant.
Miami vs #14 Wisconsin W-L by score of 2-2 not superior at all.
Miami vs # 9 W Mich U W-L by score of 4-2 a little better than just barely.
Miami vs #12 Notre Dm W-L by score of 4-3 another just barely.
So how is it that Miami can be looked at as the #3 team in the nation??? Did they just whip up on anyone other than Colgate, Alaska and Bowling Green?! Now other than Alaska, these are teams that finished, not second FROM THE TOP like the teams Minnesota pummeled, but second or third FROM THE BOTTOM.
There were 2 other series' I did not list, vs 2nd from the bottom NMU, where they got a W-T by a total of 7-5, yeah. And a 3 game series with unranked Ohio St, with 2 Ws and a T, but yet only a 5-2 advantage in scoring.
Miami's #3 ranking is nothing more than an example of LAZINESS. Pure and simple. They've struggled against every opponent they've played except the very worst teams in the country. They haven't won convincingly over any decent opponent yet the entire season.
It's just unbelievable, actually.
LOL, Miami is no worse a #3 than the Gophers are a #2, eh?!
WOW, and all because the RPI, a rating system respected by about 5% of sports fans, says so, eh?!
Well, fellowes has hinted that this thread is possibly heading in a bad direction, so I will say one last thing and honestly I doubt there will be any response, because like when I posted the FACTS and EVIDENCE to back up my original statements, that seemed to quite all of your criticisms and maybe these facts and evidence will do the same?
Minnesota vs UR Mich St - Won 2 games by total of 12-2.
Minnesota vs UR Vermont - Won 2 games by total of 8-2.
Minnesota vs #24 Air Force - Won 4-0.
Minnesota vs #12 Notre Dm - Won 4-1.
Minnesota vs # 5 Boston C - Won 8-1.
Minnesota vs # 4 No Dak - W-T by total of 9-5.
I'm showing you these random results to show you that sure, like a lot of teams, we play a lot of tight matchups, losing 2-3 on a Friday to someone like Wisconsin, and then beating them 3-2 on Saturday, but in most of those cases, we'd be more dominant in our other series with that same team.
And pretty regularly throughout the season, we'd also show that we are CLEARLY worthy of our #2 rating which can be seen by the results I listed above, whether its an unranked team like Vermont, or the #24 ranked Atlantic Hockey Runners-Up Air Force, or the #12 ranked CCHA Runners-Up Notre Dame, or the #5 ranked Hockey East Runners-Up Boston College or the #4 ranked WCHA 3rd place team UND, the Gophers have risen up to really pound on those teams.
BC was ranked #1, until we pummeled em.
ND was ranked #2, until we pummeled em.
UND would have won the WCHA and would probably be ranked #2 had we not won 3 out of 4 pts vs them in our 2 games.
And my guess is if we played Rensselaer, we'd pound them silly as well. But we couldn't apparently fit EVERY Conf runner-up in our schedule.
But Minnesota CLEARLY deserves the #2 ranking, and some question whether they shouldn't be #1? Quinipiac has kind of played a weaker schedule like Miami has, but they've won more of those games, so enough doubt remains that many give them the benefit of the doubt.
How does Miami compare?!
Miami vs UR Michigan W-L by total of 6-7 the opposite of dominant.
Miami vs UR Ferris St W-L by total of 4-5 again, the opposite of dominant.
Miami vs UR Provdnce W-T by total of 5-4 that's what we call, just barely.
Miami vs UR Mich St W-T by total of 4-2 compare that with UMn's 12-2 total vs MSU.
Miami vs UR Lk Sup St W-L by total of 3-3 not superior at all.
Miami vs UR Ohio St W-L by total of 4-5 the opposite of dominant.
Miami vs UR Rbrt Mrrs L by score of 0-1 couldn't even score on lowly Robert Morris?
Miami vs UR N Mich U L-T by score of 4-5 the opposite of dominant.
Miami vs #14 Wisconsin W-L by score of 2-2 not superior at all.
Miami vs # 9 W Mich U W-L by score of 4-2 a little better than just barely.
Miami vs #12 Notre Dm W-L by score of 4-3 another just barely.
So how is it that Miami can be looked at as the #3 team in the nation??? Did they just whip up on anyone other than Colgate, Alaska and Bowling Green?! Now other than Alaska, these are teams that finished, not second FROM THE TOP like the teams Minnesota pummeled, but second or third FROM THE BOTTOM.
There were 2 other series' I did not list, vs 2nd from the bottom NMU, where they got a W-T by a total of 7-5, yeah. And a 3 game series with unranked Ohio St, with 2 Ws and a T, but yet only a 5-2 advantage in scoring.
Miami's #3 ranking is nothing more than an example of LAZINESS. Pure and simple. They've struggled against every opponent they've played except the very worst teams in the country. They haven't won convincingly over any decent opponent yet the entire season.
It's just unbelievable, actually.
Re: I can't believe there's no MSU - Miami thread
Dude... why do you care? You derailed a perfectly good CCHA playoff thread. Just stop.
Dude... why do you care? You derailed a perfectly good CCHA playoff thread. Just stop.
Back2BackU-MnPride2002
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Re: I can't believe there's no MSU - Miami thread
Pirateasaurus --
I was only slightly interested because MSU is going to be where they should be finally, come next year, in the BTHC with my Gophers, and saw someone make what I felt was an uneducated comment about how the Redhawks were going to pummel MSU, and I simply felt the facts said otherwise. The facts say that MSU played Miami close the one weekend they played each other, and that Miami hasn't blown hardly anyone away this season.
They are probably the better team, but I think Miami will struggle to get past your Spartans. I see it going to a 3rd game. But maybe Miami will finally turn it on now that its playoff time?! But this is MSU's only chance, so I doubt they'll lay down and just give it to them.
Pirateasaurus --
I was only slightly interested because MSU is going to be where they should be finally, come next year, in the BTHC with my Gophers, and saw someone make what I felt was an uneducated comment about how the Redhawks were going to pummel MSU, and I simply felt the facts said otherwise. The facts say that MSU played Miami close the one weekend they played each other, and that Miami hasn't blown hardly anyone away this season.
They are probably the better team, but I think Miami will struggle to get past your Spartans. I see it going to a 3rd game. But maybe Miami will finally turn it on now that its playoff time?! But this is MSU's only chance, so I doubt they'll lay down and just give it to them.
Back2BackU-MnPride2002
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Re: I can't believe there's no MSU - Miami thread
Well, for one I'm a college hockey fan. I'm not just a one team homer. I've made money betting on sports as well, and more than just a couple of bucks, too. So maybe, just maybe I know what I'm talking about?
But you're a Miami fan and I understand why you are miffed.
I just think MSU's going to make it a decent series, and Miami being weak is going to do their part to keep MSU in it as well.
But I said something about leaving earlier, so dude, never meant to derail the topic. Maybe if some people hadn't called me a drunken idiot, I wouldn't have gone to such lengths to CRAM the facts down their throats. But that wasn't you, and I apologize to you Fellowes. I don't have any ill will towards Miami and I hope your team plays to the best of its abilities.
And enjoy the NCHC next year, those will be some fun teams you'll be competing against every week. Will definitely challenge your Redhawks more than the CCHA has over the years(imo).
Later.
Well, for one I'm a college hockey fan. I'm not just a one team homer. I've made money betting on sports as well, and more than just a couple of bucks, too. So maybe, just maybe I know what I'm talking about?
But you're a Miami fan and I understand why you are miffed.
I just think MSU's going to make it a decent series, and Miami being weak is going to do their part to keep MSU in it as well.
But I said something about leaving earlier, so dude, never meant to derail the topic. Maybe if some people hadn't called me a drunken idiot, I wouldn't have gone to such lengths to CRAM the facts down their throats. But that wasn't you, and I apologize to you Fellowes. I don't have any ill will towards Miami and I hope your team plays to the best of its abilities.
And enjoy the NCHC next year, those will be some fun teams you'll be competing against every week. Will definitely challenge your Redhawks more than the CCHA has over the years(imo).
Later.
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MUhawks628
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IMO:
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Rtn2GoldCountry
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Re: I can't believe there's no MSU - Miami thread
I'll say MSU wins one game and pushes this series to Sunday night.
I'll say MSU wins one game and pushes this series to Sunday night.
SweeneyHawksHockey
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Hopefully the series plays out something like last years 2nd round match-up. 6-0, 4-1 Miami sounds like fun.
Hopefully the series plays out something like last years 2nd round match-up. 6-0, 4-1 Miami sounds like fun.
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Re: I can't believe there's no MSU - Miami thread
I think I will be able to make it up for one of the games this weekend, plus my cravings for a crunch n munch have grown unbearable these last few weeks. Worst case scenario, I assume that these games will be on all-access?
Congrats
I think I will be able to make it up for one of the games this weekend, plus my cravings for a crunch n munch have grown unbearable these last few weeks. Worst case scenario, I assume that these games will be on all-access?
Congrats
MUnRPI
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Re: I can't believe there's no MSU - Miami thread
how much moneyz do you have?
how much moneyz do you have?
Back2BackU-MnPride2002
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Re: I can't believe there's no MSU - Miami thread
Thanks fellowes. My best year ever, and my first picking college hockey NCAA tourney games, I went out on a limb and predicted that for the first time ever, 4 teams from the same conference would make the NCAA Frozen Four. Wanna guess what year I made the prediction?! Yep, 2005. I got 6 of the first 8 games right, all 4 of the quarters right, both semis and the champ right.
Been kind of a hard act to follow though. lol
So do you follow the Bearcats as well, being from Cincinnati? Or are they one of MU's big rivals? And what do you think about this move your team is making to the NCHC? At least with UMn going to the BTHC we'll have more of a familiarity with our new conf mates. Has Miami even played some of those teams?
Thanks fellowes. My best year ever, and my first picking college hockey NCAA tourney games, I went out on a limb and predicted that for the first time ever, 4 teams from the same conference would make the NCAA Frozen Four. Wanna guess what year I made the prediction?! Yep, 2005. I got 6 of the first 8 games right, all 4 of the quarters right, both semis and the champ right.
Been kind of a hard act to follow though. lol
So do you follow the Bearcats as well, being from Cincinnati? Or are they one of MU's big rivals? And what do you think about this move your team is making to the NCHC? At least with UMn going to the BTHC we'll have more of a familiarity with our new conf mates. Has Miami even played some of those teams?
MUnRPI
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Re: I can't believe there's no MSU - Miami thread
I'll speak for fellowes here.
You're welcome.
I do not follow the bearcats actually.
They are historically a rivalry, not so much anymore. Actually, I think its one of the oldest instate rivalries in the history of the world.
I think the NCHC will be aight. A bus of Miami fans are making the trip to Grand Forks. I'm glad we will continue to play OSU.
Miami has played many of those teams actually. We actually have great familiarity with Western Michigan in all of our sports, actually.
Denver fans seem to like us. I like them at least. So those games should be very polite and cordial.
I'll speak for fellowes here.
You're welcome.
I do not follow the bearcats actually.
They are historically a rivalry, not so much anymore. Actually, I think its one of the oldest instate rivalries in the history of the world.
I think the NCHC will be aight. A bus of Miami fans are making the trip to Grand Forks. I'm glad we will continue to play OSU.
Miami has played many of those teams actually. We actually have great familiarity with Western Michigan in all of our sports, actually.
Denver fans seem to like us. I like them at least. So those games should be very polite and cordial.
Spartanforlife4
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Re: I can't believe there's no MSU - Miami thread
Unless this game is going to be moved to some location in Alaska, it'll probably be Hildebrand. Yanakeff hasn't fared too well on the road except for Fairbanks this season.
Unless this game is going to be moved to some location in Alaska, it'll probably be Hildebrand. Yanakeff hasn't fared too well on the road except for Fairbanks this season.
MUhawks628
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Re: I can't believe there's no MSU - Miami thread
Another poser. Every fanbase has one.
This should be a good series if MSU's goaltending has anything to say about it.
Miami's freshmen are good, but will be tested in the playoffs. Good luck to both teams.
Another poser. Every fanbase has one.
This should be a good series if MSU's goaltending has anything to say about it.
Miami's freshmen are good, but will be tested in the playoffs. Good luck to both teams.
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wolverineTrumpet
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Re: I can't believe there's no MSU - Miami thread
And now, my super knowlegable about sports 'cause I've won money on predictions (and actually seen both these teams play/I follow the CCHA):
Miami in 2.
(I'd prefer State to win, but I don't see it happening.)
Don't worry, Miami will save their choke job for either the CCHA final or the NCAA tournament (or both). Seems they never show up for the biggest stage (see outdoor game this year for reference)
Do you say this having watched either team play this season, or do you base it solely on scores? Since you claim to be a hockey fan, you must recognize that sometimes a one goal win can be from a dominating performance.
So I am now to believe anyone that has ever made money betting on sports knows what they're talking about? You're funny.
I don't watch college bouncy ball, but my first year filling out a March Madness bracket I got all of the Final Four right and picked the champion. And that's out of 64 teams, not just 16. I must be a goddess of college hoops knowledge! (I am not....I just looked at recent history and guessed, I will probably never repeat that....but why am I admiting this? I should use it as proof of my awesomeness!)
Based on what I've seen of State's goalies, I think Hildebrand is the tougher goalie to play against.
And now, my super knowlegable about sports 'cause I've won money on predictions (and actually seen both these teams play/I follow the CCHA):
Miami in 2.
(I'd prefer State to win, but I don't see it happening.)
Don't worry, Miami will save their choke job for either the CCHA final or the NCAA tournament (or both). Seems they never show up for the biggest stage (see outdoor game this year for reference)