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How Many DQ's Have You Seen in a College Game?

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pete99race

Rocking 'The Stone'
Anybody catch the six man Royal Rumble (on video) from River Falls this past Sat. nite?
Following SNC's eighth goal, the puck barely hit the ice in the face off circle, before six guys dropped their gloves and went at it.
Must have been almost 50 pounds of equipment on the ice after the Main Event was over.
With the two DQ's in the second period...eight players were DQed in this game.
Record number of DQ's, for me in one college game.
How many have you witnessed??
 
Re: How Many DQ's Have You Seen in a College Game?

pete99race said:
Anybody catch the six man Royal Rumble (on video) from River Falls this past Sat. nite?
Following SNC's eighth goal, the puck barely hit the ice in the face off circle, before six guys dropped their gloves and went at it.
Must have been almost 50 pounds of equipment on the ice after the Main Event was over.
With the two DQ's in the second period...eight players were DQed in this game.
Record number of DQ's, for me in one college game.
How many have you witnessed??
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DH002235 should be able to tell you about some epic brawls Elmira has had with teams in the past. He told me about some but I can't remember all the years and who they were against. He's been following the team since the 70's

I think Mercyhurst and Brockport were two of the teams.

I remember one game when I was really young Mercyhurst and Elmira each had six players in the box after a scuffle.
 
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Norwich vs Plattsburgh forget when...years ago...pre game skate....not sure how many got DQ'd...but ever since you started seeing the reffs come out for pre game skate...
 
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Well, I wasn't there, so I can't attest to exact DQ numbers (maybe somebody on here was and would like to contribute), but the Plattsburgh-instigated brawl at the end of their quarterfinal series loss to Babson in '88 was bad enough to earn them a swift postseason ban for '89, and has to be considered pretty much the low point for the program's respectability.
 
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Potsdam and Brockport a long time ago got into a bench clearing brawl after the final buzzer after overtime ended. I don't know how many DQs there were, but I'm sure there were a ton. The ref ran over to the scorer's table to grab a clipboard and started writing down notes...

Oh, and that game was televised on local Rochester cable. I always wondered if there is a tape available of that somewhere.
 
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Pioneerfan11 said:
I was at this game in Utica's first season:

http://www.collegehockeystats.net/0102/boxes/mneuutc1.f16

By my count that is 11. This began the... let's say dislike... that these two teams have shown for one another in the years since. ;)
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Utica's goalie got tossed, but not Neumann's. If I read that right, all five Neumann skaters were tossed. Four of Utica's skaters and the goalie were tossed and the remaining skater got a two minute minor. That sounds like a fun night at the local rink!
 
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In the late 80's or early 90's, Stevens Point and Bemidji State got into it and the game ended with 254 penalty minutes. No idea how many were gamers, but it had to be a pretty hefty amount.
 
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Pioneerfan11 said:
I was at this game in Utica's first season:

http://www.collegehockeystats.net/0102/boxes/mneuutc1.f16
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Maybe this got some run on the boards when it happened, but it was 4 and a half years ago and needs to be rehashed:

First, notice that one of the players in this game (actually had a nice 4 pt game) was named Ron Mexico:

For those who don't know the story behind that name (and if you don't you've been living under a rock):

Excerpt from Michael Vick's wikipedia page:

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In March 2005, Sonya Elliott filed a civil lawsuit against Vick alleging she contracted genital herpes from him in the autumn of 2002 and that he failed to inform her that he had the disease.[26] Elliot further alleged that Vick had visited clinics under the alias "Ron Mexico" to get treatments and thus knew of his condition. On April 24, 2006, Vick's attorney, Lawrence Woodward, revealed that the lawsuit had been settled out of court under undisclosed terms.[27] Many fans bought custom jerseys from NFL.com with Vick's number 7 and the name "MEXICO" on the back. The NFL has since banned customizing jerseys with the name Mexico
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Also note that the NFL banned Harris Smith on custom NYG jerseys because that was the name Plax Burress used when he checked into the hospital after shooting himself. (I'm a Giants fan so I'm going to pull a Webb here and slam my head on my desk a few times and then finish the post.)

So I thought that was pretty interesting, it reminded me of the greatest alias of all-time. Then I did a quick Google search of "Ron Mexico Utica" and found this beauty:

UC player caught in name game

By CRAIG MUDER
Observer-Dispatch UTICA

Ron Mexico has been dragged into the national spotlight. Fortunately for the former Utica College hockey player, none of this is his fault. Unfortunately - because the case involves National Football League star Michael Vick - Mexico himself has become national news. Vick, the Atlanta Falcons' quarterback, is being sued by an alleged former girlfriend who claims he knowingly gave her genital herpes in 2003. The lawsuit, filed in the state court of Gwinnett County, Georgia, and posted on thesmokinggun.com, alleges that Vick has used the name "Ron Mexico" as an alias "for the purposes of herpes testing and/or treatment." Soon after the lawsuit was published, radio stations from across the country began calling the real Ron Mexico in Utica. "They did a `Google' search and Ron Mexico came up playing hockey for Utica College," said Mexico, a senior from Big Rapids, Mich. "Me and my dad are the only Ron Mexicos in the country, I think. "I found out two or three days ago when my buddy from Michigan told me he heard it on the radio. I thought he was just pulling my leg, but I got a call from a Los Angeles radio station yesterday." Mexico has not been served with any legal documents, and has never met Vick. But on the heels of UC's run in the ECAC Playoffs in March, Mexico's brush with Vick has brought even more publicity to the Pioneers' hockey program. "What's been great is on the air they've been introducing him as Utica College hockey player Ron Mexico," said UC coach Gary Heenan. "I had radio stations from Atlanta, L.A. and Detroit calling me to get Ron's number." Mexico, who appeared in 14 games for the Pioneers' this year, is one of 13 seniors who helped turn UC from a brand new program in 2001 to a national power in 2005. And when Mexico graduates this spring, his hockey legacy will long be remembered in Utica. His name, however, is now linked to Michael Vick. "I have no idea how he got it, but I hope this doesn't hurt me," joked Mexico. "You know what my major is? I'm going into hospital administration."
 
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NUProf said:
Correlation does not imply causation. There may be a lurking variable that is a factor which explains both variables. Although the association is slight (a regression line would account for 10% of the variance) it probably is statistically significant.
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Just trying to make sure you don't get too rusty;)

The author (Richard Pollock) did note:
Granted, this is a weaker correlation by statistical standards, however it is absolutely worth noting. While obvious it may be, there is the possibility that other variables associated with penalty killing, such as face-off winning percentages which I wrote about last week, could be inter-related.
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Just for kicks, I created a couple of tables similar to those in Norm's article for the 74 DIII programs active at some point over the period covered by Collegehockeystats (02-09 in the case of national statistics). Since the number of games played over that range varies significantly from team to team, I normalized the numbers by using Win% rather than points and PIM/G rather than straight-up PIM. First, team success:
Code: 
Rank        Team           Win%
1    Adrian              0.92241
2    St. Norbert         0.83603
3    Middlebury          0.80687
4    Norwich             0.78289
5    Manhattanville      0.75240
6    UMass Dartmouth     0.74424
7    Wis-Superior        0.72436
8    RIT                 0.72277
9    Oswego              0.71957
10   Plattsburgh         0.70408
11   Curry               0.69355
12   St. Thomas          0.66816
13   Wis-River Falls     0.66812
14   Bowdoin             0.66256
15   New England         0.65682
16   Wentworth           0.63514
17   Trinity             0.63270
18   St. John's          0.63208
19   Hobart              0.62500
20   Elmira              0.62156
21   Babson              0.61697
22   Colby               0.60553
23   Marian              0.55856
24   Wis-Stout           0.55778
25   Fitchburg State     0.55742
26   Utica               0.55314
27   Fredonia            0.54884
28   Geneseo             0.54608
29   Westfield State     0.54167
30   Milwaukee S. E.     0.53881
31   Amherst             0.53676
32   Gustavus Adolphus   0.53037
33   Wis-Stevens Pt.     0.52941
34   Finlandia           0.52899
35   Salem State         0.52844
36   Williams            0.51010
37   St. Olaf            0.50478
38   Nichols             0.49500
39   Southern Maine      0.49282
40   Bethel              0.47073
41   Augsburg            0.46078
42   Plymouth State      0.45897
43   Hamilton            0.45522
44   MCLA                0.43137
45   St. Scholastica     0.41591
46   Potsdam             0.41355
47   Salve Regina        0.41146
48   Lawrence            0.41136
49   Neumann             0.41063
50   St. Mary's          0.40500
51   Lake Forest         0.40367
52   Johnson & Wales     0.39320
53   Buffalo State       0.38835
54   Cortland            0.38626
55   Conn. College       0.37692
56   Tufts               0.37173
57   Becker              0.37162
58   Wis-Eau Claire      0.36977
59   Suffolk             0.36772
60   Lebanon Valley      0.36650
61   Castleton           0.36577
62   Wesleyan            0.35714
63   Hamline             0.35366
64   Skidmore            0.35122
65   Brockport           0.33251
66   Concordia (MN)      0.28818
67   Western N.E.        0.26720
68   Morrisville         0.26119
69   Worcester State     0.22487
70   UMass Boston        0.21359
71   Framingham State    0.20052
72   Concordia (WI)      0.12037
73   Northland           0.11905
74   Scranton            0.00000
and then the affinity toward penalties for the same teams:
Code: 
Rank       Team          Games     PIM     PIM/G
1    Plattsburgh          245      3072    12.5
2    Middlebury           233      2931    12.6
3    Colby                199      2526    12.7
4    Norwich              228      3305    14.5
5    Conn. College        195      2854    14.6
6    Gustavus Adolphus    214      3138    14.7
7    Wesleyan             189      2779    14.7
8    St. Olaf             209      3100    14.8
9    Bethel               205      3089    15.1
10   Williams             198      3015    15.2
11   St. Thomas           223      3427    15.4
12   Babson               218      3371    15.5
13   UMass Dartmouth      217      3415    15.7
14   Amherst              204      3239    15.9
15   St. John's           212      3383    16.0
16   Wis-River Falls      229      3667    16.0
17   Wis-Stout            225      3614    16.1
18   Bowdoin              203      3275    16.1
19   Skidmore             205      3395    16.6
20   Hobart               216      3626    16.8
21   UMass Boston         206      3463    16.8
22   Tufts                191      3220    16.9
23   Framingham State     192      3244    16.9
24   St. Scholastica      220      3725    16.9
25   MCLA                  51       888    17.4
26   Trinity              211      3683    17.5
27   Lake Forest          218      3821    17.5
28   Hamilton             201      3534    17.6
29   Elmira               218      3841    17.6
30   St. Mary's           200      3525    17.6
31   Augsburg             204      3642    17.9
32   Fitchburg State      209      3767    18.0
33   Salem State          211      3807    18.0
34   Fredonia             215      3880    18.0
35   Hamline              205      3742    18.3
36   Oswego               230      4247    18.5
37   Wis-Superior         234      4328    18.5
38   St. Norbert          247      4629    18.7
39   Plymouth State       195      3656    18.7
40   Utica                207      3912    18.9
41   Lawrence             220      4162    18.9
42   Westfield State       24       456    19.0
43   Salve Regina         192      3684    19.2
44   Worcester State      189      3661    19.4
45   Milwaukee S. E.      219      4261    19.5
46   Geneseo              217      4290    19.8
47   Nichols              200      3961    19.8
48   Morrisville           67      1333    19.9
49   Suffolk              189      3761    19.9
50   Wis-Stevens Pt.      221      4439    20.1
51   Brockport            203      4099    20.2
52   Buffalo State        206      4172    20.3
53   Potsdam              214      4366    20.4
54   Marian               222      4540    20.5
55   Wis-Eau Claire       215      4413    20.5
56   Western N.E.         189      3909    20.7
57   Concordia (MN)       203      4237    20.9
58   New England          220      4604    20.9
59   Southern Maine       209      4437    21.2
60   Manhattanville       208      4423    21.3
61   Wentworth            222      4806    21.6
62   Cortland             211      4587    21.7
63   RIT                  101      2217    22.0
64   Northland            210      4612    22.0
65   Castleton            149      3277    22.0
66   Finlandia            138      3129    22.7
67   Lebanon Valley       206      4758    23.1
68   Becker                74      1717    23.2
68   Neumann              207      4803    23.2
70   Scranton               3        70    23.3
71   Adrian                58      1466    25.3
72   Johnson & Wales      206      5311    25.8
73   Curry                217      5604    25.8
74   Concordia (WI)        54      1519    28.1

While there are some obvious standouts in terms of low PIM/G and high Win% (Middlebury, Norwich, Plattsburgh), the lists show plenty of aberrations, just as in the NHL article. In fact, the Pearson for the set is slightly lower: right around -0.28, indicative of a correlation between the stats, but by no means a strong one. It's also worth noting that if the data are pruned of their most likely candidates for outliers - say, any team with less than 150 games played over the 8-season span - the coefficient remains very nearly unchanged.

They're interesting data insofar as I think there are a fair number of people out there (myself included) who assumed a stronger correlation based on high-profile examples like the aforementioned Primelink teams. If anything, this bodes well for teams like Adrian who've fallen under scrutiny for their tendency to spend a lot of time in the box.
 
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Nice to see MCLA well represented on those tables Dyce. :D Coach McGonagle did well to help pad those numbers.
 
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hockeyfan77 said:
Two of my favorites....Just because my hand hurt for weeks after writing up the game sheets....You know it's been a good one when you need to game sheets...


http://www.collegehockeystats.net/0102/boxes/msomtrn1.n17
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Did I read this boxscore right? Trinity scores and at the same time Southern Maine has a player ejected for "Hitting the Goalie"? Unless he hit his own goalie, wasn't the action at the other end of the ice?
 
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spwood said:
Did I read this boxscore right? Trinity scores and at the same time Southern Maine has a player ejected for "Hitting the Goalie"? Unless he hit his own goalie, wasn't the action at the other end of the ice?
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My guess would be the time was entered in wrong, maybe 18:37 was when the Trinity netminder got hit....I know it was on the ensuing face-off after the 6th goal...
 
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hockeyfan77 said:
Here is another beauty: it was tame until 7:17 left in the game


http://www.collegehockeystats.net/0102/boxes/mnecsom1.f02
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Give 'em all a double-minor (or, in the case of Nathan Isabelle and Nick Warriner, a triple-minor) for multiple counts of roughing, and a 10-minute misconduct, which puts 'em out for the rest of the game.... wouldn't it have been easier (and a little harsher) to give them majros for fighting (since I'm assuming that fghting occured)?
 
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