how come?

[TimU]

Re: how come?

Hey, TimU. Only academic need? I don't know if you have noticed, but Ivy League schools maintain quite stringent academic requirements for the admission necessary to be eligible for needs scholarships.
Meeting Ivy academic standards is a precondition for receiving Ivy needs scholarships. This means that Ivy needs scholarships are also Ivy academic scholarships, and any arguments to the contrary are bogus. Do you get my point?

The point I'm getting is that you don't know what you're talking about.

No, not only academic need. Not academic need at all. That has nothing to do with it. Only financial need.

There is no such thing as any Ivy League academic scholarship. Period. And your attempt to link it to the ability to be admitted in the first place, to make it look like you weren't completely misinformed, is frankly pathetic.

 

[Happy]

Re: how come?

I think he went to a SEC school.

 

[Osorojo]

Re: how come?

The point I'm getting is that you don't know what you're talking about.

No, not only academic need. Not academic need at all. That has nothing to do with it. Only financial need.

There is no such thing as any Ivy League academic scholarship. Period. And your attempt to link it to the ability to be admitted in the first place, to make it look like you weren't completely misinformed, is frankly pathetic.

The suggestion is preposterous that no significant difference exists between athletic scholarships and scholarships offered by Ivy schools, no matter what word you prefix to Ivy League scholarships.
There is no such thing as an Ivy League scholarship which is not dependent upon academic performance. You can't get a scholarship if you can't get in, and you can't get in without proven academic potential/performance. Check and see. Word games and specious arguments aside, recipients of Ivy League
scholarships must all pass through a fine academic filter, which makes these scholarships in fact academic in nature.
In all probability talented hockey players with SAT's as low as 600 (=ZERO) and lousy academic records are recruited and awarded scholarships by some DI hockey schools. Can I prove it? No, such records are confidential. Would such candidates be admitted to an Ivy League school? Check with any Ivy League admissions office.

 

[nmupiccdiva]

Re: how come?

Nope, this isn't a trolling Techie under a pseudonym. This guy seems to be taking this shit seriously, and that's not how the Tech posters roll.

 

[TimU]

Re: how come?

The suggestion is preposterous that no significant difference exists between athletic scholarships and scholarships offered by Ivy schools, no matter what word you prefix to Ivy League scholarships.

. . . which would explain why nobody ever suggested it. Except you.

There is no such thing as an Ivy League scholarship which is not dependent upon academic performance. You can't get a scholarship if you can't get in, and you can't get in without proven academic potential/performance. Check and see. Word games and specious arguments aside, recipients of Ivy League
scholarships must all pass through a fine academic filter, which makes these scholarships in fact academic in nature

Still pathetic. You can't get a scholarship to any school if you don't get in. And Ivy League schools still don't grant athletic or academic scholarships, no matter how hard you try to twist your ignorance on the subject into a meaningful argument.

Specious arguments aside, you haven't said a single thing since you've been here.

 

[burd]

Re: how come?

There is no such thing as an Ivy League scholarship which is not dependent upon academic performance. Word games and specious arguments aside, recipients of Ivy League
scholarships must all pass through a fine academic filter, which makes these scholarships in fact academic in nature.

Obviously Os doesn't know what he's talking about. Ivies don't give merit based aid. My daughter is a soph at Columbia, and I wish they did.

 

[Runninwiththedogs]

Re: how come?

The suggestion is preposterous that no significant difference exists between athletic scholarships and scholarships offered by Ivy schools, no matter what word you prefix to Ivy League scholarships
There is no such thing as an Ivy League scholarship which is not dependent upon academic performance. You can't get a scholarship if you can't get in, and you can't get in without proven academic potential/performance. Check and see. Word games and specious arguments aside, recipients of Ivy League
scholarships must all pass through a fine academic filter, which makes these scholarships in fact academic in nature.
In all probability talented hockey players with SAT's as low as 600 (=ZERO) and lousy academic records are recruited and awarded scholarships by some DI hockey schools. Can I prove it? No, such records are confidential. Would such candidates be admitted to an Ivy League school? Check with any Ivy League admissions office.

You are obsessed. I don't understand why you have this axe to grind with college hockey. You are complaining about the most niggling little details: oh no, an Ivy League school let in an exceptionally skilled athlete who wasn't a valedictorian! Oh no, hockey players aren't engineering majors! Heaven forbid! Oh no, public money built an arena! Communism! Let's build a wall!

You wonder why no one takes you seriously and why you are relentlessly mocked? Because you

1. bring up topics that are of no interest to anyone else here
2. ask if "studies have been done" on your own twisted hypotheses when you know very well they have not, simply because you have no other way to broach a subject
3. consult a thesaurus for every third word you type and use the most pompous and priggish phrasing possible
4. ignore every cogent point brought up and demand "proof" or "evidence" while providing no proof or evidence of your own
5. never discuss the game of hockey or give any inkling that you are actually a fan of college hockey or even the sport in general.

Have any studies been done to show whether you are a decent human being worthy of even a modicum of respect, whether you are actually a hockey fan, and whether you shouldn't just **** right off and kill yourself?

No?

Well, you're not, you're not, and you should hop to it.

 

[komey1]

Re: how come?

Thank goodness games are being played this weekend so we can bury supid threads like this, Let's all go to our schools threads and post there to bury this one. Heck, join the pick'ems (CCHA and AHA ones are up thanks to Michigan-Mercyhurst).

 

[Osorojo]

Re: how come?

American education, including higher education, is in trouble and everyone knows it. I don't think it's necessary or even advisable for colleges to relax admission or academic standards in order to maintain a successful DI hockey program. The record of Ivy League DI hockey supports this viewpoint.

I don't think the current organizational structure of amateur hockey in the U.S. and Canada is sacrosanct or even necessarily the best way way to develop and showcase amateur hockey talent in North America. The record of European players in the NHL supports this viewpoint.

I fear that greed and short-sighted reactionaries may ruin my favorite college sport: ice hockey. Crude personal insults and specious arguments have not diminished my concern.

 

[komey1]

Re: how come?

I thought Crosby was American

And wasn't it Canada vrs the USA in the Olypmic finals last time?

Things could improve, but they are pretty darn good.

 

[komey1]

Re: how come?

Not only that - I don't know if you saw that Alaska suspended their best defenseman for being academically ineligible. Seems hockey coaches care about academics.

Now I REALLY don't know why I bother.

 

[Dirty]

Re: how come?

I fear that greed and short-sighted reactionaries may ruin my favorite college sport: ice hockey. Crude personal insults and specious arguments have not diminished my concern.

We can only hope. You'd leave this website in that case.

 

[bigmrg74]

Re: how come?

Nope, this isn't a trolling Techie under a pseudonym. This guy seems to be taking this shit seriously, and that's not how the Tech posters roll.

True, but I wouldn't mind doing an IP address check on this Area Clown, see if it happens to be the same as somebody else who's a regular around here.

Until then, I think this thread needs Monkey's!!!

 

[Freddie]

Re: how come?

How come we all keep reading this moron's posts?
How come we can't avoid the temptation to respond?
How come 80% of posters don't know diff between POLL and POLE?

 

[dxmnkd316]

Re: how come?

. . . which would explain why nobody ever suggested it. Except you.



Still pathetic. You can't get a scholarship to any school if you don't get in. And Ivy League schools still don't grant athletic or academic scholarships, no matter how hard you try to twist your ignorance on the subject into a meaningful argument.

Specious arguments aside, you haven't said a single thing since you've been here.

Obviously those hockey players are scoring higher on their SATs than this dope. Ignore him Tim, he's just to stupid to understand.

 

[Dirty]

Re: how come?

If you would all stop taking him seriously and just continue to toy with him, it's much more fun.

 

[uaafanblog]

Re: how come?

How come we all keep reading this moron's posts?
How come we can't avoid the temptation to respond?
How come 80% of posters don't know diff between POLL and POLE?

I'll play ....

Why does anyone use "how come" in a thread title instead of " W H Y "?

 

[LynahFan]

Re: how come?

American education, including higher education, is in trouble and everyone knows it. I don't think it's necessary or even advisable for colleges to relax admission or academic standards in order to maintain a successful DI hockey program. The record of Ivy League DI hockey supports this viewpoint.

Because Ivies don't relax their admission standards for hockey players? That could be the funniest thing you've said yet.

On the other hand, you apparently got into Cornell, so maybe the standards aren't that tough after all...

 

[MikeAnderson]

Re: how come?

Oso is just an Eminem fan.

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[Osorojo]

Re: how come?

Because Ivies don't relax their admission standards for hockey players? That could be the funniest thing you've said yet.

On the other hand, you apparently got into Cornell, so maybe the standards aren't that tough after all...

You have a point, Lyfa. I attended school with the guys who I like to think were the inspiration for the Hansen brothers in Slap Shot, although hockey has seen many such fraternal characters.
As for relaxing admission and academic standards, like most things it's a matter of degree. Many of the denizens of this site go into a frenzy of denial and vituperation when the relationship between college hockey and higher (academic) education is raised. The same thing happens at the suggestion that the proliferation of TV programing and fat pro contracts brings lots of new cash into the college hockey scene, and this money will change college hockey.
The extraordinary anger displayed by posters at the mention of these subjects or an alternative point of view suggests people who rely upon bullying, bluff, and insult to get their way.