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Hiking/Camping Advice

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I did a fly-in fishing trip in Canada a few weeks ago and one of the requirements to stay at the remote camp we stayed at was to bring a hunting rifle in .300 Winchester mag or larger due to grizzly attacks they have had in the area. Just something to think about depending on where you are camping. I personally don't do much remote camping in the boondocks without at least a pistol. You never know who or what you might run into in a remote area. If you are just going to campground, obiviously it's not needed. But if you go camp in the backwoods, you never know.
 
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GOPHER FREAK said:
I did a fly-in fishing trip in Canada a few weeks ago and one of the requirements to stay at the remote camp we stayed at was to bring a hunting rifle in .300 Winchester mag or larger due to grizzly attacks they have had in the area. Just something to think about depending on where you are camping. I personally don't do much remote camping in the boondocks without at least a pistol. You never know who or what you might run into in a remote area. If you are just going to campground, obiviously it's not needed. But if you go camp in the backwoods, you never know.
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we'll be in southern utah and northern arizona (colorado plateau), and won't be camping in any remote locations... unless something goes awry :) Most we'll have to worry about is scorpions and rattlesnakes ;)!
 
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Gibber said:
we'll be in southern utah and northern arizona (colorado plateau), and won't be camping in any remote locations... unless something goes awry :) Most we'll have to worry about is scorpions and rattlesnakes ;)!
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:) don't think you'll need a gun or the wet weather gear.
 
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By late September the monsoon is pretty much always gone from the southwest, so that lessens rain worries. Now, the wife and I are camping near Flagstaff next weekend, in the middle of the monsoon, so we'll be taking tarps and other rain gear as there's a good chance of at least some storms while we're there.
 
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you probably already know this Gibber, but stay out of the slot canyons if the the weather is even thinking about rain!!
 
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huskyfan said:
you probably already know this Gibber, but stay out of the slot canyons if the the weather is even thinking about rain!!
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Definitely! We're planning on doing Antelope Canyon... debating whether or not to pay the extra and do the 'extended' photographer tour, its in the budget, but doesn't mean its not a waste of money...

Also just found out about Zebra Slot Canyon in Escalante that looks REALLY cool, might hit that up... we decided that we're going to wing it instead of having a strict itinerary (we'll have an outline of where we REALLY want to go and where we'd like to go if we have the time)...
 
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I think I may have mentioned this already. Wire Pass to Buckskin Gulch is a great slot. and far less expensive.
 
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If it's an extended trip you may be able to leave the bug spray behind. There's a product out there you can launder your clothes in that repels **** near everything. Once your clothes dry you can't smell a thing. I remember going to a camp (way back when) where something like 10-15% of the kids ended up with lyme disease and the rest were eaten alive by mosquitos. I didn't so much as suffer a mosquito bite. I'll try to remember the name of it.
 
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huskyfan said:
I think I may have mentioned this already. Wire Pass to Buckskin Gulch is a great slot. and far less expensive.
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is that part of Cuyote Buttes? You have mentioned it. I just got a National Parks/Federal Recreation Annual Pass that covers the BLM sites :)
 
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Just thought of this (didn't think of it the first time, assuming you probably knew it already). If there is wildlife (as in animals that can cause you physical harm) put your food/food waste in a garbage bag/etc and hang it from a tree. Do NOT keep it in or near your tent. Or put it in your vehicle.
 
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Brenthoven said:
Just thought of this (didn't think of it the first time, assuming you probably knew it already). If there is wildlife (as in animals that can cause you physical harm) put your food/food waste in a garbage bag/etc and hang it from a tree. Do NOT keep it in or near your tent. Or put it in your vehicle.
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I wouldn't put it in a vehicle. I've seen plenty of videos where black bears systematically dismantle a van or car in a matter of 10-15 minutes. Your first suggestion of a tree (a good distance away from your tent) is probably the best bet.
 
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Gibber said:
is that part of Cuyote Buttes? You have mentioned it. I just got a National Parks/Federal Recreation Annual Pass that covers the BLM sites :)
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its a side canyon of Buckskin Gulch. BLM. the ranger station is outside of Kanab. it the same trail you would take to the Wave, but it branches off. out and back. you follow a dry stream bed it twists around a few rocks and WOW! you're in a slot. about a 3-4 miles round trip. some parts of the slot are only two feet wide. its ends where it joins Buckskin Gulch. there are some fine petroglyphs there. there are a couple of spots where its a bit of a scramble, but people have placed rocks to help get up and down the stream bed.
 
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huskyfan said:
its a side canyon of Buckskin Gulch. BLM. the ranger station is outside of Kanab. it the same trail you would take to the Wave, but it branches off. out and back. you follow a dry stream bed it twists around a few rocks and WOW! you're in a slot. about a 3-4 miles round trip. some parts of the slot are only two feet wide. its ends where it joins Buckskin Gulch. there are some fine petroglyphs there. there are a couple of spots where its a bit of a scramble, but people have placed rocks to help get up and down the stream bed.
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I'll have to look into it.. does it require a permit like the Wave?
 
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In that area, plan for a very wide range of sleeping temperatures.

There's a KOA near Bryce Canyon where sleeping is easy- nice evening and night temps with a sleeping bag.

Go into Bryce, and the campground is WAY higher, and WAY colder- IIRC, the overnight low in mid July was 36F. Cold, cold, cold. Jeans and a sweatshirt wasn't enough...

And then down to Zion, and I do mean down- and it's a lot warmer. And one didn't need to leave the bag open. Thankfully, the 107F high didn't mean unbearable sleeping weather.

Can't remember if the north end of the Grand was bad, and I remember SW Colorado being pretty comfortable.

I spent a week in the area- and loved it. That was the first week in a month and a half drive around the country- mostly camping.
 
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I'm thinking about getting into the camping scene and tents kind of puzzle me. I have seen some models and are waterproofed with sealed seams and some that are not. Why would you want to buy a tent that wasn't waterproofed to the fullest extemt possible?
 
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I've never paid much attention to waterproofing claims. If we're camping and there's a chance of precipitation, we'll put a separate tarp over the top of the tent. My experience with a few different tents is that if you let water up against the tent, even a lot of good ones will eventually let water in. So, our strategy is to keep water from getting next to it. Also, a little channeling on the upside of the tent is very helpful. We just got rained on like crazy camping near Flagstaff this past weekend, and our tent was nice and dry, even though it's an old one that isn't waterproof at all on its own.
 
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Bob Gray said:
I've never paid much attention to waterproofing claims. If we're camping and there's a chance of precipitation, we'll put a separate tarp over the top of the tent. My experience with a few different tents is that if you let water up against the tent, even a lot of good ones will eventually let water in. So, our strategy is to keep water from getting next to it. Also, a little channeling on the upside of the tent is very helpful. We just got rained on like crazy camping near Flagstaff this past weekend, and our tent was nice and dry, even though it's an old one that isn't waterproof at all on its own.
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Yeah, as I read up on tents, it seems like people still waterproof a waterproof tent. I was thinking the tarp idea would be the best solution, but from what I gather, most folks just to the rainfly thing.
 
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