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The Sicatoka said:
Kep, always looking to excel, was hoping for extraordinary grift. ;)
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Man has climbed Mount Everest. Gone to the bottom of the ocean. He has fired rockets at the Moon. Split the atom. Achieved miracles in every field of human endeavour... except crime!
 
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Kepler said:
Man has climbed Mount Everest. Gone to the bottom of the ocean. He has fired rockets at the Moon. Split the atom. Achieved miracles in every field of human endeavour... except crime!
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They're voting on that next week. Merry Christmas.
 
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BassAle said:
why the **** do we still need humans to operate a train in 2017? This could all be computer controlled. If you can have an autonomous vehicle on a road, you sure as hell could do it on a track.
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Union contracts.

Legacy union contracts going back to the late 1800s (so I am told, anyway) produce some odd results here in CT.

There is one train run by State DOT under license to Amtrak to operate commuter trains east of New Haven, and a different train run by Metro-North Railroad to operate commuter trains west of New Haven. Most of the time, that means changing trains in New Haven.

There are a few trains that allow passengers to remain on the same train as it passes through New Haven. However, the crew has to change in New Haven from Amtrak employees to MNR employees or vice versa.
 
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FreshFish said:
Union contracts
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Yeah, unions are famous for promoting conditions where workers get killed. :rolleyes:

Owners fight so hard to protect their employees but those awful socialists keep insisting on dangerous working conditions. It's a real tragedy. If only unions had never happened, we would all be so much better off.

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FreshFish said:
Union contracts.

Legacy union contracts going back to the late 1800s (so I am told, anyway) produce some odd results here in CT.

There is one train run by State DOT under license to Amtrak to operate commuter trains east of New Haven, and a different train run by Metro-North Railroad to operate commuter trains west of New Haven. Most of the time, that means changing trains in New Haven.

There are a few trains that allow passengers to remain on the same train as it passes through New Haven. However, the crew has to change in New Haven from Amtrak employees to MNR employees or vice versa.
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Not so long ago, the rail line East of New Haven was not electrified which meant that everyone heading past New Haven in either direction had a 30 minute changeover while they changed engines.

Now I think it's Shoreline East from NH->PVD and Metro North from NH->Grand Central.

Could that be a reason?
 
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Unions had their place and they did well for the workers. Nowadays I don't think they are needed as much, if at all.
 
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Brenthoven said:
Unions had their place and they did well for the workers. Nowadays I don't think they are needed as much, if at all.
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But Fishy thinks their contracts from the 19th century are still in place (never revised, never amended, never extended, never renewed - all 4 of which are different legal situations). :rolleyes:

As for the rest of your post, that is another matter. I assume as a forkie, you're in a union, Brent?
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
But Fishy thinks their contracts from the 19th century are still in place (never revised, never amended, never extended, never renewed - all 4 of which are different legal situations). :rolleyes:

As for the rest of your post, that is another matter. I assume as a forkie, you're in a union, Brent?
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1. I agree with that BS about legacy contracts.
2. I am not. I will not work in a union shop. I deal with union workers (truckers/parcel shippers) and I'd say less than half the time I hear good things about anything except the actual wages.

Edit: actually, one of the first questions I asked of my company when being interviewed was if they were union.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
You should read The Jungle.
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Yeah, and I said unions once had their place, and did well for the workers. Now with all the current laws and OSHA, and other organizations willing to back workers...I don't feel unions have a place here anymore. They did their job. *shrug*
 
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Brenthoven said:
Unions had their place and they did well for the workers. Nowadays I don't think they are needed as much, if at all.
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When did unions stop being necessary?

Brenthoven said:
1. I agree with that BS about legacy contracts.
2. I am not. I will not work in a union shop. I deal with union workers (truckers/parcel shippers) and I'd say less than half the time I hear good things about anything except the actual wages.

Edit: actually, one of the first questions I asked of my company when being interviewed was if they were union.
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That is fair, and your choice, but again...when did unions stop being needed?

Brenthoven said:
Yeah, and I said unions once had their place, and did well for the workers. Now with all the current laws and OSHA, and other organizations willing to back workers...I don't feel unions have a place here anymore. They did their job. *shrug*
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*sigh* Brent. So if we eliminate minimum wage laws and outlaw unions tomorrow, you'd be cool with that? Replaced by some kid at $10/hr who doesn't know his arse from a hole in the ground, and drops a pallet on his first day, destroying the product, and killing a co-worker?
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
When did unions stop being necessary?



That is fair, and your choice, but again...when did unions stop being needed?



*sigh* Brent. So if we eliminate the minimum wage laws tomorrow, you'd be cool with that? Replaced by some kid at $10/hr who doesn't know his arse from a hole in the ground, and drops a pallet on his first day, destroying the product, and killing a co-worker?
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IMO, I don't think min wage laws are solely union anymore. As I said, many more orgs are out there.

I've been in warehousing for 23 years, none union. The biggest complaints I hear from union workers?
1. Union strikes? I can't cross, or I'll be a scab and will be frowned upon for anything good that comes up in the future.
2. Seniority. Doesn't matter if I can do the job better. Seniority wins out.

Unions started something very good, but they have outlived their usefulness, due to more efficient (and more in number) orgs and practices.
 
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Brenthoven said:
IMO, I don't think min wage laws are solely union anymore. As I said, many more orgs are out there.

I've been in warehousing for 23 years, none union. The biggest complaints I hear from union workers?
1. Union strikes? I can't cross, or I'll be a scab and will be frowned upon for anything good that comes up in the future.
2. Seniority. Doesn't matter if I can do the job better. Seniority wins out.

Unions started something very good, but they have outlived their usefulness, due to more efficient (and more in number) orgs and practices.
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What are these more efficient organizations and practices? And seniority really only helps with scheduling and vacations.

Unions aren't necessary for every job out there, and certainly aren't perfect, but they are far from useless.
 
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