Harvard Crimson 2016-2017

[Crimson on the Glass]

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I know that "on paper" we should be able to get by Yale, but to be honest I don't want to see them next weekend. I was at their 1-1 draw at Bright in January and that was a great game and there wasn't much between them.

I know what you mean, but boy Yale would be a great series. This Harvard team I think more consistently rises to the occasion for big games against tough opponents. It's the "ho hum, it's only RPI and we're #2 in the country" games that make me nervous.

 

[alslammerz]

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I thought it would most likely be Yale or Dartmouth, though Colgate hanging in there tonight. I also note that Duluth is losing, though I don't have a good sense for what is would take to see a PWR shift. And Denver is on national television again tonight.

We're probably not going to move up or down. What we really need is North Dakota to move up to the 12 line or above (3 seed), or to get knocked out of the tournament so that they don't make it as an at-large. Otherwise no matter where we are, if we're a 1 seed, we play North Dakota in Fargo because the other three one seeds are all NCHC conference opponents and won't be matched with them.

Actually, in that sense, Western Michigan winning and Minnesota losing hurt - if Minnesota could catch Western Michigan there'd be another non-NCHC team in the 1 seeds.

 

[Crimson on the Glass]

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What we really need is North Dakota to move up to the 12 line or above (3 seed), or to get knocked out of the tournament so that they don't make it as an at-large. Otherwise no matter where we are, if we're a 1 seed, we play North Dakota in Fargo because the other three one seeds are all NCHC conference opponents and won't be matched with them.

Wow, that would seem like quite an injustice, for the only Eastern team in the top 4 PWR to be sent way out West somewhere. I'd wager there are dozens of Crimson fans who will happily make the longish drive to Manchester or Providence, but could not even find Fargo on a map.

And you are right, I should be rooting for Western Michigan over Duluth. It may be in large part the NCHC tournament outcomes that determine where Harvard goes, assuming they can continue to win.

 

[Skate79]

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Wow, that would seem like quite an injustice, for the only Eastern team in the top 4 PWR to be sent way out West somewhere. I'd wager there are dozens of Crimson fans who will happily make the longish drive to Manchester or Providence, but could not even find Fargo on a map.

And you are right, I should be rooting for Western Michigan over Duluth. It may be in large part the NCHC tournament outcomes that determine where Harvard goes, assuming they can continue to win.

You're telling me. Complete and utter screw job. The #2 team in the country and we have to go to Fargo. NO WAY. Sorry then the brackets are screwed up. It totally isn't worth it to work your way up the rankings and then have something like this happen.

I get that the NCHC teams can't get paired up but to send Harvard to Fargo is ridiculous. Send BU.

 

[Skate79]

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Anyone else hoping for an upset in the first round of the playoffs? I know that "on paper" we should be able to get by Yale, but to be honest I don't want to see them next weekend. I was at their 1-1 draw at Bright in January and that was a great game and there wasn't much between them. They seem to up their game when playing the Crimson. I know we then beat them at the Whale, but I, for one, was happy to see Colgate win last night.

Rivalries always bring out the best in the underdog and I don't want to see Yale next weekend. Allain will remind them of what happened at the Whale two years ago. They'd like nothing better than to ruin our postseason. Bring on Colgate if at all possible.

 

[Crimson on the Glass]

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Right, so it's Yale after all then. Fitting.

Meanwhile, North Dakota still hovers just above the #4 seed level (which with autobids effectively is just the 13 or 14 position). Perhaps we'd be better off (Fargo-wise) if a non-NCHC western team like Minnesota can break back into the #1 seed group for good.

 

[alslammerz]

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Right, so it's Yale after all then. Fitting.

Meanwhile, North Dakota still hovers just above the #4 seed level (which with autobids effectively is just the 13 or 14 position). Perhaps we'd be better off (Fargo-wise) if a non-NCHC western team like Minnesota can break back into the #1 seed group for good.

I agree with the latter but the autobids do not move North Dakota up or down. If the autobid goes to a pairwise team already above North Dakota then North Dakota would not move, and likewise, if a team like Niagara wins the autobid, they won't move past North Dakota just because they have an autobid. If there are 4 autobids of teams below 12th in the pairwise, for example, teams 1-12 go (either as at-large or with an autobid) and then seeds 13-16 would be those lower teams.

That said, either cheer for North Dakota to keep winning and solidify a 3rd seed, or hope they lose and get bumped out by teams catching them and upsets happening in the conference tournament.

 

[Scarlet]

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You're telling me. Complete and utter screw job. The #2 team in the country and we have to go to Fargo. NO WAY. Sorry then the brackets are screwed up. It totally isn't worth it to work your way up the rankings and then have something like this happen.

I get that the NCHC teams can't get paired up but to send Harvard to Fargo is ridiculous. Send BU.

I'd love for BU to go west as a 1 seed! Wanna swap??? They're probably going west anyways but since it will be at a lower seed, you can just cahlm ya livah about that. This is all on North Dakota and where they get seeded. Three out of the four number one seeds are in the same conference as them. You want to stay east? Lose this weekend. That might do it!

 

[agarcia]

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The good thing about a Yale-Harvard series is that it should bring more fans out to Bright (at least you'd think). I remember the last playoff game I went to at Bright it was barely more than half full.

 

[Crimson on the Glass]

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I agree with the latter but the autobids do not move North Dakota up or down.

I was thinking of the situation where say a team is sitting at #16 PWR before autobids come in and then a lower PWR conference tournament winner, like from Atlantic Hockey for example, comes in and makes the cut at #16 with a PWR maybe >20.

 

[Crimson on the Glass]

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The good thing about a Yale-Harvard series is that it should bring more fans out to Bright (at least you'd think). I remember the last playoff game I went to at Bright it was barely more than half full.

I hope you are right. Harvard seems to wait until the regular season ends and then start from scratch selling the whole place. If they finish 5-8 that leaves like 4 days to sell tickets. I know that other programs include playoff seats with season tickets and/or start selling the playoff series much earlier.

I've got five seats on the glass that will be filled!

 

[alslammerz]

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I was thinking of the situation where say a team is sitting at #16 PWR before autobids come in and then a lower PWR conference tournament winner, like from Atlantic Hockey for example, comes in and makes the cut at #16 with a PWR maybe >20.

Just realized I read your original post wrong and get what you are saying now.

Last Harvard-Yale playoff series I went to was a full house for all three games, even with students (mostly) off-campus for the start of spring break. I imagine it will be the same this time. I also remember the band being at the games.

 

[LTsatch]

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I hope you are right. Harvard seems to wait until the regular season ends and then start from scratch selling the whole place. If they finish 5-8 that leaves like 4 days to sell tickets. I know that other programs include playoff seats with season tickets and/or start selling the playoff series much earlier.

I've got five seats on the glass that will be filled!

Looked at seats in section six yesterday, the entire section was available.

 

[Crimson on the Glass]

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Looked at seats in section six yesterday, the entire section was available.

Six is of course not one for home fans, beside the Yale bench, but I am looking now and it is about 1/2 sold. Games 1 and 2. Surprisingly good, and I'm sure most of those seats are going to Yale fans.

You are right, though, there are a lot of unsold seats at this point.

 

[LTsatch]

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Six is of course not one for home fans, beside the Yale bench, but I am looking now and it is about 1/2 sold. Games 1 and 2. Surprisingly good, and I'm sure most of those seats are going to Yale fans.

You are right, though, there are a lot of unsold seats at this point.

Yale just started selling their allotment today.

 

[kool99]

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Harvard with 3 players on the NHL's final 2016 Draft Rankings. Adam Fox, Marshall Rifai, and Matt Gosiewski.

Is Gosiewski still committed? After getting traded to the Penticton Vees, either he wasn't getting ice time, scoring points or both. Had 12 points in 36 games (4+8 = 12) for Penticton and has no C next to his name like all the other committed players on the roster. Prior to that he had 0 points in 5 games with a crappy Rough Riders team in the USHL. http://www.pentictonvees.ca/player-...ague_code=bchl&position=skaters&currentPage=1

 

[QUAlum2004]

Is Gosiewski still committed? After getting traded to the Penticton Vees, either he wasn't getting ice time, scoring points or both. Had 12 points in 36 games (4+8 = 12) for Penticton and has no C next to his name like all the other committed players on the roster. Prior to that he had 0 points in 5 games with a crappy Rough Riders team in the USHL. http://www.pentictonvees.ca/player-...ague_code=bchl&position=skaters&currentPage=1

Don't see him listed in Heisenberg's spread sheet anymore.

 

[Skate79]

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The good thing about a Yale-Harvard series is that it should bring more fans out to Bright (at least you'd think). I remember the last playoff game I went to at Bright it was barely more than half full.

I hope you're right. With the bye week, people can sometimes forget although the ticket office has already started their email bombardment for this weekend. With the men's b-ball team playing in the Ivy tournament out of town, I'm hoping the band stays home and shows up. They owe us with their presence.

 

[Skate79]

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I'd love for BU to go west as a 1 seed! Wanna swap??? They're probably going west anyways but since it will be at a lower seed, you can just cahlm ya livah about that. This is all on North Dakota and where they get seeded. Three out of the four number one seeds are in the same conference as them. You want to stay east? Lose this weekend. That might do it!

No thanks. We shouldn't have to lose to get a chance to play in the East. If the tournament organizers realized that where $$$ is concerned, it's better to keep Harvard in the East and send someone else out West.

 

[Skate79]

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This weekend will be the fourth time we've faced Yale in the past six years in the ECAC quarters. Won in 2012 and 2015 and lost in 2014. 2014 was in two straight. I'd like to return the favor this weekend and not have to go to Sunday.