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Harvard Crimson 2016-2017
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Re: Harvard Crimson 2016-2017
I don't know how you can say that when I offered evidence to the contrary. Kessel will never be a two way player and the trade netted them an opportunity to grow a young nucleus. But Julien simply doesn't like young skilled players. He stunts their development by benching them while veterans that he puts out there for heavy minutes make the same mistakes. Or moving them up and down forward lines denying them an opportunity to build chemistry and confidence.
Look at Beleskey. He was a much better player for Anaheim. He was barely an upgrade over Lucic this season. I look at Florida and Tampa and see how they have been able to get much more out of young players and it is clear that Julien's system and approach is outmoded.
You want another prediction? If they stick with Julien, they'll be looking up at Buffalo in the next couple of seasons. That team is young and growing in confidence and if Vesey heads up there to play with Eichel, well, watch out.
Postscript: You do know that Cam Neely openly wondered on Felger and Mazz how Reilly Smith could fail here in Boston and yet flourish in Florida. He publicly admitted that he has thought about it. You think maybe he's wondering if it has to do with the coach? Hmm?
And Phil Kessel, FYI, has a goal and an assist in today's game against the Rangers. Sure, who needs him when you can have Jimmy Hayes or Lee Stempniak.
I don't know how you can say that when I offered evidence to the contrary. Kessel will never be a two way player and the trade netted them an opportunity to grow a young nucleus. But Julien simply doesn't like young skilled players. He stunts their development by benching them while veterans that he puts out there for heavy minutes make the same mistakes. Or moving them up and down forward lines denying them an opportunity to build chemistry and confidence.
Look at Beleskey. He was a much better player for Anaheim. He was barely an upgrade over Lucic this season. I look at Florida and Tampa and see how they have been able to get much more out of young players and it is clear that Julien's system and approach is outmoded.
You want another prediction? If they stick with Julien, they'll be looking up at Buffalo in the next couple of seasons. That team is young and growing in confidence and if Vesey heads up there to play with Eichel, well, watch out.
Postscript: You do know that Cam Neely openly wondered on Felger and Mazz how Reilly Smith could fail here in Boston and yet flourish in Florida. He publicly admitted that he has thought about it. You think maybe he's wondering if it has to do with the coach? Hmm?
And Phil Kessel, FYI, has a goal and an assist in today's game against the Rangers. Sure, who needs him when you can have Jimmy Hayes or Lee Stempniak.
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FiveHole12
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Re: Harvard Crimson 2016-2017
On April 16, Kessel had 2 goals and was a -2 against the Rangers. Almost gotta try to make that happen.
If one had a team full of Kessels, not so sure you'd win a whole lot of games.
On April 16, Kessel had 2 goals and was a -2 against the Rangers. Almost gotta try to make that happen.
If one had a team full of Kessels, not so sure you'd win a whole lot of games.
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Re: Harvard Crimson 2016-2017
Everywhere Paul Vincent goes they win and the younger players get better. Look at Florida, 3+ years in, young talent killing it and most wins ever in franchise history. Same as Chicago and exactly why Talkon hired him immediately
Doesn't surprise me at all that Smith is doing so well, he works with him. Same as Hayes had great year in Foorida when working daily with Vincent
Jimmy will be just fine, couple dings but will be back next year, natural goal scorer
Vincent is a miracle worker, Petrovic, Ekblad on and on
No one better at working with young talent
Everywhere Paul Vincent goes they win and the younger players get better. Look at Florida, 3+ years in, young talent killing it and most wins ever in franchise history. Same as Chicago and exactly why Talkon hired him immediately
Doesn't surprise me at all that Smith is doing so well, he works with him. Same as Hayes had great year in Foorida when working daily with Vincent
Jimmy will be just fine, couple dings but will be back next year, natural goal scorer
Vincent is a miracle worker, Petrovic, Ekblad on and on
No one better at working with young talent
Re: Harvard Crimson 2016-2017
I'm not saying he is a complete 200 foot player. What I am saying is that Mike Sullivan has obviously got him buying into playing better at both ends and his offensive skill takes the pressure off Crosby and Malkin. In fact it was the supporting cast that did in the Rangers. Kessel had a goal and an assist and probably could have scored another had he not been trying to set up teammates yesterday. Another big change in his game from when he played with the Bruins.
I'm not saying he is a complete 200 foot player. What I am saying is that Mike Sullivan has obviously got him buying into playing better at both ends and his offensive skill takes the pressure off Crosby and Malkin. In fact it was the supporting cast that did in the Rangers. Kessel had a goal and an assist and probably could have scored another had he not been trying to set up teammates yesterday. Another big change in his game from when he played with the Bruins.
Re: Harvard Crimson 2016-2017
Great, then the Bruins should call him and offer him a position as an assistant coach to work with the younger players. Let's see what he can do with Spooner, Vatrano, Pastrnak and Acciari. If he can get Hayes turned around, all the better.
Great, then the Bruins should call him and offer him a position as an assistant coach to work with the younger players. Let's see what he can do with Spooner, Vatrano, Pastrnak and Acciari. If he can get Hayes turned around, all the better.
He changed residency to Florida, living on the course in Naples. Florida is last NHL stop
Re: Harvard Crimson 2016-2017
Chiarelli got the B's in trouble with the salary cap, getting rid of Boychuk and Hamilton with Chara and Seidenberg hurt and aging was the problem. B's went from one of the best defensive teams in the league but couldn't score, to a leaky undersized(Krug) defensive team that ultimately cost them. They have a ton of offensive potential now, they need defensemen and they'll be fine.
Chiarelli got the B's in trouble with the salary cap, getting rid of Boychuk and Hamilton with Chara and Seidenberg hurt and aging was the problem. B's went from one of the best defensive teams in the league but couldn't score, to a leaky undersized(Krug) defensive team that ultimately cost them. They have a ton of offensive potential now, they need defensemen and they'll be fine.
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Yes, he
Crimson on the Glass
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Re: Harvard Crimson 2016-2017
A news item relating to that Hobey banner I mentioned earlier.
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2016/5/11/vesey-hobey-baker-honor/
A news item relating to that Hobey banner I mentioned earlier.
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2016/5/11/vesey-hobey-baker-honor/
alslammerz
Harvard Hockey Broadcaster '09-'12
Re: Harvard Crimson 2016-2017
The Crimson breaking news of Boston's tampering with a player Nashville has the rights to?
If he does sign with Boston, if I'm Nashville I ask for compensation based off that.
The Crimson breaking news of Boston's tampering with a player Nashville has the rights to?
If he does sign with Boston, if I'm Nashville I ask for compensation based off that.
Re: Harvard Crimson 2016-2017
https://www.neutralzone.net/2016/05/19/wyllum-deveaux-road-harvard/
Good article on a potential recruit.
https://www.neutralzone.net/2016/05/19/wyllum-deveaux-road-harvard/
Good article on a potential recruit.
Crimson on the Glass
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Re: Harvard Crimson 2016-2017
I am reading a very interesting Crimson piece about Ted Donato, Jimmy Vesey and the team's recent history, which I recommend.
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2016/5/24/resurgence-of-harvard-mens-hockey/
I am reading a very interesting Crimson piece about Ted Donato, Jimmy Vesey and the team's recent history, which I recommend.
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2016/5/24/resurgence-of-harvard-mens-hockey/
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His rights were traded to Buffalo. Can't sign until August I believe
Re: Harvard Crimson 2016-2017
.....thanks for the clarification. So, Buffalo’s just taking a shot at him then. I saw it on the elite prospects transaction page but didn’t look any further............... The Sabres sent Nashville a third-round pick in exchange for the exclusive right to negotiate with Vesey before Aug. 15. http://boston.cbslocal.com/2016/06/...o-buffalo-sabres/?cid=twitter_985thesportshub
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