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Harvard Crimson 2013-2014
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Re: Harvard Crimson 2013-2014
No disrespect to the dead, but look what happened at Yale when a long time well respected alumni Coach was allowed to stay on too long. Not sure what the deal is with the Admin up there, but the team seems like it needs more support from the University as well. Are there not two Zamboni's up there? Pretty much the standard at a D-1 rink.
No disrespect to the dead, but look what happened at Yale when a long time well respected alumni Coach was allowed to stay on too long. Not sure what the deal is with the Admin up there, but the team seems like it needs more support from the University as well. Are there not two Zamboni's up there? Pretty much the standard at a D-1 rink.
alslammerz
Harvard Hockey Broadcaster '09-'12
Re: Harvard Crimson 2013-2014
1. I heard it was a local HS fill-in band for tonight's game - if true, probably the reason for them not playing the anthem
2. Not the first time Harvard/Dartmouth has been delayed by mechanical problems. In 2011, Game 3 of the playoffs was delayed for hours after the Hanoverian staff drilled too deep and hit a coolant pipe. Also, LTSatch, 2 zambonis wouldn't have helped because it broke on the ice.
3. Guiltinan needs to be sat a game or two in addition to any league stuff.
4. Somehow, Princeton and Dartmouth are way worse than us this year.
1. I heard it was a local HS fill-in band for tonight's game - if true, probably the reason for them not playing the anthem
2. Not the first time Harvard/Dartmouth has been delayed by mechanical problems. In 2011, Game 3 of the playoffs was delayed for hours after the Hanoverian staff drilled too deep and hit a coolant pipe. Also, LTSatch, 2 zambonis wouldn't have helped because it broke on the ice.
3. Guiltinan needs to be sat a game or two in addition to any league stuff.
4. Somehow, Princeton and Dartmouth are way worse than us this year.
Re: Harvard Crimson 2013-2014
As Alslammerz noted, a second Zamboni would only have finished the ice that was not treated. The first broke down near one of the goals (fortunately the goal near the entrance where it comes on the ice) and needed to be moved off ice to the back end of the rink. Actually, the best thing the team did besides winning the game was pushing the Zamboni off the ice and down the tunnel so they could fix it.
As Alslammerz noted, a second Zamboni would only have finished the ice that was not treated. The first broke down near one of the goals (fortunately the goal near the entrance where it comes on the ice) and needed to be moved off ice to the back end of the rink. Actually, the best thing the team did besides winning the game was pushing the Zamboni off the ice and down the tunnel so they could fix it.
LynahScott
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Re: Harvard Crimson 2013-2014
He and Esposito seem to be pretty proud of their antics based on their post-game tweets:
http://i57.tinypic.com/2ykxrts.png
I feel bad for you guys and the Harvard coaching staff that this is the attitude the players are carrying, in public no less.
Whoops, sorry: wrong Esposito (is he related to Luke?)...but the fact that Guiltinan seems to take it as a compliment is still troubling.
He and Esposito seem to be pretty proud of their antics based on their post-game tweets:
http://i57.tinypic.com/2ykxrts.png
I feel bad for you guys and the Harvard coaching staff that this is the attitude the players are carrying, in public no less.
Whoops, sorry: wrong Esposito (is he related to Luke?)...but the fact that Guiltinan seems to take it as a compliment is still troubling.
Re: Harvard Crimson 2013-2014
No idea if the Esposito who tweeted is related to Luke but it is a sad day for Harvard hockey when this kind of nonsense is tolerated. Where is the leadership? Clearly Dan Ford doesn't seem to care or mind; he should be setting an example in the locker room and it's obvious that he is not engaged at all. Of course, he may be taking his cue from the coaching staff.
I'll be interested to see if Teddy has the stones to sit Guiltinan for the rest of the season. A one game suspension isn't enough for this clown.
No idea if the Esposito who tweeted is related to Luke but it is a sad day for Harvard hockey when this kind of nonsense is tolerated. Where is the leadership? Clearly Dan Ford doesn't seem to care or mind; he should be setting an example in the locker room and it's obvious that he is not engaged at all. Of course, he may be taking his cue from the coaching staff.
I'll be interested to see if Teddy has the stones to sit Guiltinan for the rest of the season. A one game suspension isn't enough for this clown.
How many PIMs does KG have? A young Kevin Melrose?
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Re: Harvard Crimson 2013-2014
It was not a fill-in band. I don't know about the anthem because I was at the b-ball game, but the band was at the hockey rather than basketball game.
I went to b-ball with the Mrs.; I stayed for the whole game, she left for hockey at half-time. After bball ended I went over to the rink and was happy to see it was scoreless and there was 13 minutes left. Didn't realize until it was pointed out to me that it ws the 1st period. Someone there told my wife that the 2nd Zamboni could not be brought into the arena because there was construction blocking it.
I was actually pleased by their play in the 3rd period; the first two periods were a sloppy mess by both teams. Sensing a victory, though, they put pressure on Dartmouth and scored a couple of insurance goals.
I thought it was actually kind of pleasant in the third period in the mostly empty rink. Just the few Harvard die-hards and some Dartmouth fans. No kids running around. I hate seeing kids leaning over the walkway to the locker rooms; their parents use the game as a baby-sitting opportunity and there is no security to keep them from toppling over. Some kids threw their pucks onto the ice after it was announced that chuck-a-puck was cancelled; why it would be cancelled I have no idea. Can't complain about marketing though, as we were season ticket holders of the game earlier in the year and received a big foam finger..index finger.
Guiltnan had blood streaming down his face, as Skate said, and a big grin. I like his aggressive play, and every team needs a physical defenseman like him, but he carries it too far; that was a vicious hit.
I am actually a little more optimistic about the hockey team after watching that 1st period...optimism will probably be dashed tonight at the Garden..than the basketball team, who were terrible both games this weekend and face 4 games on the road, but that's another forum.
It was not a fill-in band. I don't know about the anthem because I was at the b-ball game, but the band was at the hockey rather than basketball game.
I went to b-ball with the Mrs.; I stayed for the whole game, she left for hockey at half-time. After bball ended I went over to the rink and was happy to see it was scoreless and there was 13 minutes left. Didn't realize until it was pointed out to me that it ws the 1st period. Someone there told my wife that the 2nd Zamboni could not be brought into the arena because there was construction blocking it.
I was actually pleased by their play in the 3rd period; the first two periods were a sloppy mess by both teams. Sensing a victory, though, they put pressure on Dartmouth and scored a couple of insurance goals.
I thought it was actually kind of pleasant in the third period in the mostly empty rink. Just the few Harvard die-hards and some Dartmouth fans. No kids running around. I hate seeing kids leaning over the walkway to the locker rooms; their parents use the game as a baby-sitting opportunity and there is no security to keep them from toppling over. Some kids threw their pucks onto the ice after it was announced that chuck-a-puck was cancelled; why it would be cancelled I have no idea. Can't complain about marketing though, as we were season ticket holders of the game earlier in the year and received a big foam finger..index finger.
Guiltnan had blood streaming down his face, as Skate said, and a big grin. I like his aggressive play, and every team needs a physical defenseman like him, but he carries it too far; that was a vicious hit.
I am actually a little more optimistic about the hockey team after watching that 1st period...optimism will probably be dashed tonight at the Garden..than the basketball team, who were terrible both games this weekend and face 4 games on the road, but that's another forum.
Re: Harvard Crimson 2013-2014
Guiltinan has 71 penalty minutes. Dan Ford is next with 21. That's right, 21 penalty minutes. A 50 minute gap. That isn't something to brag about.
I wouldn't compare him to Melrose because Kevan played smart, tough physical hockey that intimidated the opponent. Guiltinan plays reckless with no accountability. He doesn't care if he hurts anyone or what it costs his team. This kid needs a wake-up call in the worst way.
Guiltinan has 71 penalty minutes. Dan Ford is next with 21. That's right, 21 penalty minutes. A 50 minute gap. That isn't something to brag about.
I wouldn't compare him to Melrose because Kevan played smart, tough physical hockey that intimidated the opponent. Guiltinan plays reckless with no accountability. He doesn't care if he hurts anyone or what it costs his team. This kid needs a wake-up call in the worst way.
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I don't know how you can be optimistic even with the win on Saturday. They played a terrible team that is going nowhere much like themselves. There wasn't anything positive you could take from that win especially considering Guiltinan's shot to the head. Having a physical presence on the back line is important, I'll grant you that. But playing stupid and reckless with a total lack of respect for your opponent is simply inexcusable. And that is what this Harvard team does night in and night out. Did you like Esposito's penalty 16 seconds into a power play? Where's the accountability? The discipline? Sorry but I don't see anything about this team that tells me there is hope for the future.
I don't know how you can be optimistic even with the win on Saturday. They played a terrible team that is going nowhere much like themselves. There wasn't anything positive you could take from that win especially considering Guiltinan's shot to the head. Having a physical presence on the back line is important, I'll grant you that. But playing stupid and reckless with a total lack of respect for your opponent is simply inexcusable. And that is what this Harvard team does night in and night out. Did you like Esposito's penalty 16 seconds into a power play? Where's the accountability? The discipline? Sorry but I don't see anything about this team that tells me there is hope for the future.
Re: Harvard Crimson 2013-2014
Maybe, but Melrose had 124 PIMs in 1989. I think Harvard knew exactly what they were getting in KG and they just need to mold him. He's a frosh....he will learn.
Maybe, but Melrose had 124 PIMs in 1989. I think Harvard knew exactly what they were getting in KG and they just need to mold him. He's a frosh....he will learn.
alslammerz
Harvard Hockey Broadcaster '09-'12
Re: Harvard Crimson 2013-2014
Any chance next year we can just play BU, Bentley, Dartmouth and Princeton?
Any chance next year we can just play BU, Bentley, Dartmouth and Princeton?
Kepler
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Re: Harvard Crimson 2013-2014
That exactly describes Melrose.
I know everybody loves their own agitator, but Melrose was nothing but a cement head. He wasn't even a goon, since goons have a practical, albeit simplistic, plan. Guiltinan is aiming for, at worst, second place on the all-time loser list.
That exactly describes Melrose.
I know everybody loves their own agitator, but Melrose was nothing but a cement head. He wasn't even a goon, since goons have a practical, albeit simplistic, plan. Guiltinan is aiming for, at worst, second place on the all-time loser list.
Re: Harvard Crimson 2013-2014
As to band - I went down there to see and spoke to a couple of members of the Harvard band (not the faux band provided for some previous games) I thanked them for coming and one told me that they would have liked to get to more hockey games but the athletic people want them for basketball.
As to Zamboni situation - they have had two for years. I spoke to someone from the athletic dept who told me that the second Zamboni is walled up behind temporary walls to facilitate construction and walls would have to be broken down to get to it. (really - you could not make this stuff up) I think this demonstrates the kind of support hockey gets from the Athletic Director.
Brought to mind about 9-10 years ago and the first womens game of the season. Zamboni 1 came out and a battery exploded, dumping acid on the ice. When they finally got Zamboni 2 out it went around about 3 times, overheated and blew a radiator hose dumping antifreeze on the ice. As the game was with a western team (Minnesota Duluth IIRC) they delayed the game until Tuesday and M_D team just stayed in town for a few days waiting. I worked there then and as I had contacts at BB&N I tried to borrow the Zamboni from Bright Rink but I could not reach anyone from Bright Rink staff. Only about half a mile and the State Police said they would provide an escort as a Zamboni is not street legal.
About 8 years ago a member of the Bright Arena staff got over enthused drilling the holes for the goal pegs and drilled right into a coolant tube similar to the incident elsewhere mentioned above.
Also, for those not aware of this; to apologize to the problems at the Dartmouth game Harvard is offering free tickets to the Harvard Brown game on February 22nd to people who bought tickets to the Dartmouth game. An email went out to all with season tickets but I am not sure if others were notified.
As to band - I went down there to see and spoke to a couple of members of the Harvard band (not the faux band provided for some previous games) I thanked them for coming and one told me that they would have liked to get to more hockey games but the athletic people want them for basketball.
As to Zamboni situation - they have had two for years. I spoke to someone from the athletic dept who told me that the second Zamboni is walled up behind temporary walls to facilitate construction and walls would have to be broken down to get to it. (really - you could not make this stuff up) I think this demonstrates the kind of support hockey gets from the Athletic Director.
Brought to mind about 9-10 years ago and the first womens game of the season. Zamboni 1 came out and a battery exploded, dumping acid on the ice. When they finally got Zamboni 2 out it went around about 3 times, overheated and blew a radiator hose dumping antifreeze on the ice. As the game was with a western team (Minnesota Duluth IIRC) they delayed the game until Tuesday and M_D team just stayed in town for a few days waiting. I worked there then and as I had contacts at BB&N I tried to borrow the Zamboni from Bright Rink but I could not reach anyone from Bright Rink staff. Only about half a mile and the State Police said they would provide an escort as a Zamboni is not street legal.
About 8 years ago a member of the Bright Arena staff got over enthused drilling the holes for the goal pegs and drilled right into a coolant tube similar to the incident elsewhere mentioned above.
Also, for those not aware of this; to apologize to the problems at the Dartmouth game Harvard is offering free tickets to the Harvard Brown game on February 22nd to people who bought tickets to the Dartmouth game. An email went out to all with season tickets but I am not sure if others were notified.
Play nice Kepler. Do u know who your coach is?
Kepler
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Re: Harvard Crimson 2013-2014
Oh, I do. Schafer was exactly the kind of instigator who everybody else hates. My point is Melrose was a categorically different creature. We had a player like that, too, named Damian Rocke. He lasted 2.5 shifts (against Harvard, ironically), whereas Melrose lasted 2.5 seasons before he was finally kicked out.
Oh, I do. Schafer was exactly the kind of instigator who everybody else hates. My point is Melrose was a categorically different creature. We had a player like that, too, named Damian Rocke. He lasted 2.5 shifts (against Harvard, ironically), whereas Melrose lasted 2.5 seasons before he was finally kicked out.
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Re: Harvard Crimson 2013-2014
Didn't like Esposito's penalty, but that same thing had already occurred three times, I believe, in the opening Beanpot game, and I was tired of getting irritable about it. That is idiotic to take a useless penalty early into a power play.
Didn't like Esposito's penalty, but that same thing had already occurred three times, I believe, in the opening Beanpot game, and I was tired of getting irritable about it. That is idiotic to take a useless penalty early into a power play.
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Re: Harvard Crimson 2013-2014
An instigator on Harvard I will always remember was Ethan Philpott. He didn't play an entire career for Harvard but he personified goon.
An instigator on Harvard I will always remember was Ethan Philpott. He didn't play an entire career for Harvard but he personified goon.
Re: Harvard Crimson 2013-2014
Hockeydb.com, though, does dutifully record his 15 PIM in his 1 game played.
Are you sure? I thought it was a game against RPI/Union. I tried checking the "Legends" section of TBRW, but sadly, he does not appear there.
Hockeydb.com, though, does dutifully record his 15 PIM in his 1 game played.Re: Harvard Crimson 2013-2014
You are correct, Rocke's game was against Union. He played only a single shift from what I can remember before getting tossed either for charging or hitting from behind. What I clearly remember is that he didn't even have his name on the back of his jersey yet.
Are you sure? I thought it was a game against RPI/Union. I tried checking the "Legends" section of TBRW, but sadly, he does not appear there.
You are correct, Rocke's game was against Union. He played only a single shift from what I can remember before getting tossed either for charging or hitting from behind. What I clearly remember is that he didn't even have his name on the back of his jersey yet.
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