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Harvard Crimson 2013-2014

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tristarscoop said:
Presumably the in-house Wisconsin feed will be used for wherever the feed is available and as far as those go for women's hockey, it's pretty good. I paid for two months of the UW/CBSSports feeds this season and there are some god awful angles and camera folk around the country. The press box at LaBahn has good sight lines and you don't lose too much (the worst was Ohio State, where the camera felt like it was in another building, I saw more spectators heads than anything and the camera guy was unfamiliar with the zoom button).
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Yes, it seems at times following these games you start to be thankful for what you can get, and really appreciate it when the video is pretty good. Wisconsin and North Dakota were pretty good I thought. And U of MN, too, thanks!
 
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KTDC said:
Yes, it seems at times following these games you start to be thankful for what you can get, and really appreciate it when the video is pretty good. Wisconsin and North Dakota were pretty good I thought. And U of MN, too, thanks!
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I only started doing this the last six weeks or so, so I didn't watch early in the season and didn't see Minny's feed. It's like $15 a month or so to pay for Wisco's feed and not every school sends one out. I bided my time and waited til the games had a little more meaning to make my money worth a little more bang.
 
tristarscoop said:
I only started doing this the last six weeks or so, so I didn't watch early in the season and didn't see Minny's feed. It's like $15 a month or so to pay for Wisco's feed and not every school sends one out. I bided my time and waited til the games had a little more meaning to make my money worth a little more bang.
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If it is like last year, they use different production people for the NCAA tournament than whoever produces the video during the season. Everyone universally said how lousy the quality was for the UND at UM quarter last year, and I didn't hear that otherwise during the season.
 
ARM said:
If it is like last year, they use different production people for the NCAA tournament than whoever produces the video during the season. Everyone universally said how lousy the quality was for the UND at UM quarter last year, and I didn't hear that otherwise during the season.
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It is pretty sad that in this day and age institutions, be they the school or governing body, can't consistently provide high quality video feeds. The JWHL streamed most of the league games this season and the quality was better than that of most schools and they did it for free. If a youth league can pull it off you'd think colleges could at least match that level if they are going to charge for it.
 
Hux said:
If a youth league can pull it off you'd think colleges could at least match that level if they are going to charge for it.
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For the NCAAs, they can't charge. I don't know if that explains the drop in quality.
 
ARM said:
For the NCAAs, they can't charge. I don't know if that explains the drop in quality.
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I was referring to the typical "team game video" type of stream, where the angle is wide, the quality is low, and the stream jumpy. Hell, the Shamrocks used ustream and an iPhone to stream games from Ridder and Mariucci last month and had better quality of image and stream than most colleges put out.

Now a lot of the quality in the stream is a result of only 50 some odd people watching and using bandwidth, but you'd think a college that is charging could account for several hundred watching and the required bandwidth to ensure a smooth stream...but they don't.
 
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Hux said:
I was referring to the typical "team game video" type of stream, where the angle is wide, the quality is low, and the stream jumpy. Hell, the Shamrocks used ustream and an iPhone to stream games from Ridder and Mariucci last month and had better quality of image and stream than most colleges put out.

Now a lot of the quality in the stream is a result of only 50 some odd people watching and using bandwidth, but you'd think a college that is charging could account for several hundred watching and the required bandwidth to ensure a smooth stream...but they don't.
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Not sure I am getting your explanation here. Are you saying that some colleges are not uploading at a sufficient bandwidth to account for the actual number of users?
 
ManBehindTheCurtain said:
Not sure I am getting your explanation here. Are you saying that some colleges are not uploading at a sufficient bandwidth to account for the actual number of users?
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Pretty much. I have a pretty fast computer, my brother in-law a really fast one, and we are both on fast broadband and we've both watched games with more than their fair share of buffering.
 
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Hux said:
I was referring to the typical "team game video" type of stream, where the angle is wide, the quality is low, and the stream jumpy. Hell, the Shamrocks used ustream and an iPhone to stream games from Ridder and Mariucci last month and had better quality of image and stream than most colleges put out.

Now a lot of the quality in the stream is a result of only 50 some odd people watching and using bandwidth, but you'd think a college that is charging could account for several hundred watching and the required bandwidth to ensure a smooth stream...but they don't.
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I would say that this season at least that most of the free D3 NESCAC games I have watched have had better video quality and streaming (and announcers) than the D1 college games I watched - both pay and free. Pretty embarassing for the D1 schools to be honest.
 
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Hux said:
Pretty much. I have a pretty fast computer, my brother in-law a really fast one, and we are both on fast broadband and we've both watched games with more than their fair share of buffering.
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I myself have modern hardware and I am not exactly on dial up from the middle of nowhere.

I have only very rarely had "buffering" during steaming but I have had it.

I consider myself to be a "power user" but I think I may need "tech support" to resolve this issue.

It isn't a hardware issue, so where is the software bottleneck? I suspect even the most backward of women's hockey sponsoring institutions has at least a tech awareness much beyond mine. Many of them sponsor streaming of various other sorts of things, you know, the Dalai Lama or the Corpse Flower.

So what is it? Greater demands placed on the software by the constant movement of hockey?

I do not know. I think I may need tech support.
 
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NETGEAR N600 wireless dual band gigabit router has made buffering / freezing video stream a thing of the past for me when it was once a near constant adversary.
 
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A contributing factor may be that hockey rinks are relatively cavernous and not as brightly lit as basketball courts; the quality of the basketball feeds I get over the same streaming service is superbly crisp, better focused and more nimble in zooming than the hockey feeds, where usually I can't even make out the numbers. i've complained to the technical people at the local streaming service about the difference in quality between their coverage of the two sports: their basketball coverage is comparable to the local cable station's NBA coverage but their hockey coverage is miles away from NHL quality. Somehow the local cable station copes with hockey rinks just fine. We'll see if there's any improvement at the streaming service next season.
 
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Video....are we supposed to follow the link on the go crimson.com website schedule to the CBSSports.com feed, right? 7:59 EDT and it still says "Loading"?
 
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Good news for us in attendance - you didn't actually travel the band, you hired a local one to pretend to be you.

Also, I'm live in the press box and will be tweeting and sending out pics, if that's your thing. @nicolehaase
 
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