Harvard Crimson 2013-2014

[Watson Rink]

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Just to complicate matters, regarding the line combinations in the Yale series, (1) because of the extensive use of D'Oench, the substitutions (in games 1 and 2) appeared to be more complicated than just plugging in Crugnale and EParker into existing lines; D'Oench, second liners Harvey and EParker, and third liners Crugnale and Daniels were swirling before my eyes in all sorts of makeshift combinations; and (2) with Fraser's foot finally out of a boot, it appeared she was getting considerable ice time paired with Mastel or Rachlin and that Crowell was going with 8F/5D and eschewing the experiment back in November that had 9F/4D with Fraser as the 9th F centering the third line. Odd to see the first extensive use of 5 D in games when there were only 8 F.

 

[Watson Rink]

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Video tomorrow --- does anybody know whether the Clarkson feed allows for later replaying? ivyleaguedigitalnetwork.com inexcusably messed up the archiving of H-Y #3.

 

[vicb]

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Video tomorrow --- does anybody know whether the Clarkson feed allows for later replaying? ivyleaguedigitalnetwork.com inexcusably messed up the archiving of H-Y #3.

You can only watch the game by paying $9.00 to America One. Not sure whether America One allows later replay.

 

[OnMAA]

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. Odd to see the first extensive use of 5 D in games when there were only 8 F.

I've seen that before when you have 13 skaters. Rotate 2 centers through 3 sets of wingers, and every once and a while put one of the D up front in the case of needs. Often play the line variations based on the scoreline. Sometimes you go 9 and 4, but when a D gets a penalty put one F on the D rotation. It is often easier to put an extra D up front than take an extra F on D.

 

[Skate79]

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I've seen that before when you have 13 skaters. Rotate 2 centers through 3 sets of wingers, and every once and a while put one of the D up front in the case of needs. Often play the line variations based on the scoreline. Sometimes you go 9 and 4, but when a D gets a penalty put one F on the D rotation. It is often easier to put an extra D up front than take an extra F on D.

All of this becomes moot if Mary Parker suits up today. Hope she does but it depends on if she is fully recovered from her concussion and the docs give her the green light. Regarding Frazier, I think the coaching staff likes her mobility and aggressiveness in the offensive zone. I would expect her to see heavy minutes even if Parker dresses today.

 

[pakidnyc]

All of this becomes moot if Mary Parker suits up today. Hope she does but it depends on if she is fully recovered from her concussion and the docs give her the green light. Regarding Frazier, I think the coaching staff likes her mobility and aggressiveness in the offensive zone. I would expect her to see heavy minutes even if Parker dresses today.

It'd be hard for her to suit up from Boston. Didn't even make the trip to North Country.

 

[dave1381]

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Maschmeyer in net vs. Cornell.

 

[ARM]

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Maschmeyer in net vs. Cornell.

Gina McDonald puts the puck in the net versus Cornell.

 

[john0128]

Gina McDonald puts the puck in the net versus Cornell.

I couldn't watch the game, could someone please recap for me?

 

[Trillium]

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All of this becomes moot if Mary Parker suits up today. Hope she does but it depends on if she is fully recovered from her concussion and the docs give her the green light. Regarding Frazier, I think the coaching staff likes her mobility and aggressiveness in the offensive zone. I would expect her to see heavy minutes even if Parker dresses today.

Highly unusual these days for anyone to "recover" from a concussion in 2 weeks. More typically it is now a month or in many cases much more. Especially, as has been reported, this player already has a long history of concussion woes.

Thankfully medical staffs are being much more cautious these days and able to override coaching pressures to return to the lineup ASAP. Her long term health and education are far more important than a few hockey games. As much as any player would never want to miss playoffs if they didn't have to, better that than missing a whole season later....or worse yet have it affect their post-hockey future.

 

[Skate79]

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Highly unusual these days for anyone to "recover" from a concussion in 2 weeks. More typically it is now a month or in many cases much more. Especially, as has been reported, this player already has a long history of concussion woes.

Thankfully medical staffs are being much more cautious these days and able to override coaching pressures to return to the lineup ASAP. Her long term health and education are far more important than a few hockey games. As much as any player would never want to miss playoffs if they didn't have to, better that than missing a whole season later....or worse yet have it affect their post-hockey future.

I actually spoke to Mary last weekend. She may have just been giving me the party line but she said she felt good and was hoping to be back this weekend. Obviously players want to play and yes, thankfully, doctors are taking an aggressive stance with concussions. Harvard has had five in the last two years so if there is any team that will err on the side of caution, it's the Crimson medical staff.

Tough loss today to Cornell. Didn't see the game but it looked from the stats that neither goalie submitted a great performance. Harvard was up 4-2 at one point. Not sure what this means for the Crimson going forward. Looks like there have been some upsets out West. I really hope we don't have to make a return trip to Potsdam.

 

[Trillium]

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I actually spoke to Mary last weekend. She may have just been giving me the party line but she said she felt good and was hoping to be back this weekend. Obviously players want to play and yes, thankfully, doctors are taking an aggressive stance with concussions. Harvard has had five in the last two years so if there is any team that will err on the side of caution, it's the Crimson medical staff.

When the decision is left with the athletes, as it generally was not so long ago, they want to get back in the line-up immediately. I don't doubt that she feels she can play. I know of more than a few athletes in the past couple of seasons who felt fine, presumably passed the baseline test standards and concussion protocols also, and went back to playing hockey within a couple of weeks. Unfortunately, it doesn't take much of a hit when the brain is still healing to result in far more serious concussion symptoms. Shortly afterwards, with fairly harmless-seeming contact along the boards, they were out again--this time for entire seasons, or in some cases careers.

In the case of an athlete with a long concussion history already, I would be particularly worried about returning to play so early.

 

[dave1381]

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I did watch the game. It was one of the more wide open games I've seen in a while. I don't pin it in on bad goaltending though the 4th Harvard goal to go up 4-2 was definitely soft. The game was lost by allowing Cornell to respond so soon after it was 4-2. The team had no answer for Saulnier. The 1st, 4th and 5th Cornell games came from players left completely wide open to receive passes at the crease. The 5th was a nifty deflection on the PP. The 2nd goal Maschmeyer was beat on a tough shot high into the corner. I didn't get a good look at the 3rd goal - I was as bad as Harvard in letting down my attention after the 4-2 lead. I hope someone will post highlights. So no, neither goalie was great by definition when 9 goals were allowed, but Maschmeyer was the least of Harvard's problems yesterday. The short roster may have been enough to manage to get by Yale but Cornell has too much offensive talent to be allowed the kind of time and space they had in this semifinal.

 

[OnMAA]

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I did watch the game. It was one of the more wide open games I've seen in a while. I don't pin it in on bad goaltending though the 4th Harvard goal to go up 4-2 was definitely soft. The game was lost by allowing Cornell to respond so soon after it was 4-2. The team had no answer for Saulnier. The 1st, 4th and 5th Cornell games came from players left completely wide open to receive passes at the crease. The 5th was a nifty deflection on the PP. The 2nd goal Maschmeyer was beat on a tough shot high into the corner. I didn't get a good look at the 3rd goal - I was as bad as Harvard in letting down my attention after the 4-2 lead. I hope someone will post highlights. So no, neither goalie was great by definition when 9 goals were allowed, but Maschmeyer was the least of Harvard's problems yesterday. The short roster may have been enough to manage to get by Yale but Cornell has too much offensive talent to be allowed the kind of time and space they had in this semifinal.

I was at the game live. Harvard looked good early in the first, got to a 1-0 lead and were in control until Cornell got a 5 on3 that they converted on to tie the game. Cornell got the lead early in the second on great shot from the dot, short side high. Harvard then took over the second period when they made it 4-2, thought that was the end of Cornell as they had trouble generating much offense up to that point. The pace of the game in the second was very high. There was a small lapse by Harvard near the end of the second to give Cornell a free 2 on 1, and Saulnier converted, sending the teams into the dressing room 4-3. Harvard seemed to run out of gas in the third, and Cornell capitalized on their chances to get up 5-4. Havard had a few PP's but could not convert. Harvard took an untimely penalty late and Cornell scored into the empty net with Harvard on the PK but the goalie pulled.

In the earlier game Clarkson dominated from start to finish. A very impressive win over Quinnipiac.

 

[mattj711]

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I did watch the game. It was one of the more wide open games I've seen in a while. I don't pin it in on bad goaltending though the 4th Harvard goal to go up 4-2 was definitely soft. The game was lost by allowing Cornell to respond so soon after it was 4-2. The team had no answer for Saulnier. The 1st, 4th and 5th Cornell games came from players left completely wide open to receive passes at the crease. The 5th was a nifty deflection on the PP. The 2nd goal Maschmeyer was beat on a tough shot high into the corner. I didn't get a good look at the 3rd goal - I was as bad as Harvard in letting down my attention after the 4-2 lead. I hope someone will post highlights. So no, neither goalie was great by definition when 9 goals were allowed, but Maschmeyer was the least of Harvard's problems yesterday. The short roster may have been enough to manage to get by Yale but Cornell has too much offensive talent to be allowed the kind of time and space they had in this semifinal.

Here is video of Jess Brown's the game winning goal. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=624164754298017

I haven't been able to find a more complete highlight video.

 

[Watson Rink]

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I'm actually glad the team is playing Wisconsin, a fresh face after two seasons of being locked in a three-way ECAC dogfight.

And being the underdog against a very strong team from the WCHA seems only fitting; it epitomizes the whole season.

What an unforeseen achievement for the two goaltenders, the six defense and the ten forwards!

 

[dave1381]

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I'm actually glad the team is playing Wisconsin, a fresh face after two seasons of being locked in a three-way ECAC dogfight.

And being the underdog against a very strong team from the WCHA seems only fitting; it epitomizes the whole season.

What an unforeseen achievement for the two goaltenders, the six defense and the ten forwards!

Agreed.

 

[driventoit]

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Agreed.

Ditto.

Also have to say that the given short bench (Olympic year roster), the enforced short bench (injuries), and the strategic short bench (coaching) have left enough in the tank to get to Madison. Here's hoping they can find their way back east to Hamden, if only on fumes!

(And here's hoping the ubiquitous short bench issue can be laid to rest for the season.) (Fat chance.)

 

[Skate79]

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Ditto.

Also have to say that the given short bench (Olympic year roster), the enforced short bench (injuries), and the strategic short bench (coaching) have left enough in the tank to get to Madison. Here's hoping they can find their way back east to Hamden, if only on fumes!

(And here's hoping the ubiquitous short bench issue can be laid to rest for the season.) (Fat chance.)

Only if Mary Parker is able to return. If not, it's a factor and you can't just ignore it. It was one reason why we couldn't finish the deal against Cornell on Saturday.

 

[driventoit]

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Right on cue.