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Harvard Crimson 2013-2014

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There is a lot more to consider about a goalie than goals against. You need to look at things like speed, positioning, hand speed. My son was a goalie. He is now a goalie coach. And the reason Yale scored so many times on matschmeyer has more to do with defensive breakdowns. Just because Ashley holt has a better GAA and save percentage than Kimberley Newell does that mean holt should play in the playoffs? The reason Harvard won on Sunday had more to do with Leonoff not making saves she made in the other two games. Giving Harvard the early lead was huge.

On the first Yale goal on Friday night, Maschmeyer let the puck bounce off her shoulder and into the net. If she had taken a better angle, it would have never gone in. The D coverage was fine - that wasn't the problem. The second goal was a result of poor coverage but Maschmeyer also got caught leaning the wrong way and was out of position to the point where she couldn't recover in time. Crowell obviously saw the same things and decided to go with Liang. Think about it. Why would you go with your backup in a do or die situation unless you felt that your primary goalie was having some issues, be it fatigue or injury or just fighting the puck. I think Maschmeyer's mechanics when right are some of the best in the country. But right now, she's perhaps just not seeing the puck very well.

No question Leonoff was off her game on Sunday and who could blame her? She was gassed with having to face so many shots. She kept Yale in a series they had no business winning and that's to her credit. Give credit to Harvard as well for setting up some nice plays to score. It wasn't totally Leonoff's fault.
 
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The power play was the best it was all year before the break and was doing fine. They keep messing around putting different players out there and they have zero chemistry. They are a shoot first and ask questions later power play which is a recipe for disaster. They don't move the puck around long enough to create seams and passing lanes....I would like to see if there was a stat for the number of shots that the Harvard D get blocked on the PP , it has to be at least 6 or 7 per game. I did hear that the PP was brutal against Yale and the Yale PP looked like the second coming of the Russian Red Army team slinging the puck around and creating seams and passing lanes.

I don't disagree with the chemistry issue although the core of the PP revolves around pretty much the same players. Where I disagree is your contention about their shooting first and asking questions later. If anything, I think Harvard is guilty of overpassing sometimes and definitely spending too much time cycling in the offensive zone. Ironically, when JK, the Yale coach, was an assistant here at Harvard, the Crimson had better numbers on the PP.

I don't know if I would go so far as to say the Yale PP looked like the Russian Red Army team but they did have decent puck movement. Didn't really help them all that much except on Friday night.
 
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They are a shoot first and ask questions later power play which is a recipe for disaster.

I've seen power plays with all passing and no shooting or waiting for the perfect shot that is not there or never comes. I'd rather see a power play with lots of shot attempts, and crash the net, rather than just passing the puck around waiting for the perfect shot.
 
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There were a couple of very warm days between Christmas and New Years. Two weeks ago, it got up into the 30s for a few hours in advance of a storm so it could start with rain/freezing rain/wet snow that could turn to ice and freeze on the roadways when the temperature dropped by 25 degrees. This weekend we head north to Bemidji where night-time temperatures can routinely be 20 or 30 degrees colder than they are around Minneapolis. So yeah, it's getting kind of old around here. The good news is we aren't hosting the Frozen Four this year so we don't have to inflict this on other hockey fans.

Whoever sells car batteries in the Twin Cities region must be making a killing this winter. For that matter, they probably would do very well here in the Northeast.
 
On the first Yale goal on Friday night, Maschmeyer let the puck bounce off her shoulder and into the net. If she had taken a better angle, it would have never gone in. The D coverage was fine - that wasn't the problem. The second goal was a result of poor coverage but Maschmeyer also got caught leaning the wrong way and was out of position to the point where she couldn't recover in time. Crowell obviously saw the same things and decided to go with Liang. Think about it. Why would you go with your backup in a do or die situation unless you felt that your primary goalie was having some issues, be it fatigue or injury or just fighting the puck. I think Maschmeyer's mechanics when right are some of the best in the country. But right now, she's perhaps just not seeing the puck very well.

No question Leonoff was off her game on Sunday and who could blame her? She was gassed with having to face so many shots. She kept Yale in a series they had no business winning and that's to her credit. Give credit to Harvard as well for setting up some nice plays to score. It wasn't totally Leonoff's fault.

Well if coverage was fine the shot wouldn't have made it through in the first place.
 
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I think Maschmeyer's mechanics when right are some of the best in the country. But right now, she's perhaps just not seeing the puck very well.

I think the stats bear this out. Here are the top fifteen goalies this season by save %:

Code:
   Goalie                               GP  SV%
1  Amanda Leveille, So, Minnesota       36  .950
2  Alex Rigsby, Sr, Wisconsin           24  .950
3  Emerance Maschmeyer, So, Harvard     25  .947
4  Corinne Boyles, Sr, Boston College   30  .944
5  Erica Howe, Sr, Clarkson             36  .942
6  Ali Binnington, Jr, RIT              26  .940
7  Lisa Steffes, Sr, Ohio State         26  .935
   Jessica Dodds, Fr, Robert Morris     28  .935
9  Chelsea Laden, Jr, Quinnipiac        33  .934
10 Kallie Billadeau, Sr, Syracuse       13  .933
11 Carmen MacDonald, Jr, St. Lawrence   29  .932
   Roxanne Douville, Sr, Vermont        28  .932
13 Elaine Chuli, So, Connecticut        24  .929
   Jenesica Drinkwater, Sr, Syracuse    23  .929
15 Paula Voorheis, Fr, Cornell          14  .928

But in 2014 the order looks different (thanks to the Hockey East and WCHA sites for including reverse stats, boo to ECAC and CHA):

Code:
   Goalie                               SV%
1  Amanda Leveille, So, Minnesota       .962 (+.012)
2  Ali Binnington, Jr, RIT              .962 (+.022)
3  Corinne Boyles, Sr, Boston College   .957 (+.013)
4  Elaine Chuli, So, Connecticut        .948 (+0.019)
5  Roxanne Douville, Sr, Vermont        .943 (+0.011)
6  Erica Howe, Sr, Clarkson             .942 (level)
7  Alex Rigsby, Sr, Wisconsin           .939 (-0.011)
8  Jessica Dodds, Fr, Robert Morris     .937 (+.002)
9  Emerance Maschmeyer, So, Harvard     .936 (-0.011)
   Lisa Steffes, Sr, Ohio State         .936 (+0.001)
11 Carmen MacDonald, Jr, St. Lawrence   .932 (level)
12 Jenesica Drinkwater, Sr, Syracuse    .931 (+0.002)
13 Paula Voorheis, Fr, Cornell          .926 (-0.002)
14 Chelsea Laden, Jr, Quinnipiac        .918 (-0.016)
-- Kallie Billadeau, Sr, Syracuse       Did not play

Douville has actually been averaging .96 since the start of February and is pulled down by a single game against Northeastern. Desjardins, just off this list, is on .941 in 2014.

All of which is to say that you're not wrong to think Maschmeyer is off her game since the New Year: she's down more than any other goalie except Laden. This is borne out by my own personal experience, where in the Harvard/BC game at the start of December she was outstanding, and in February by the time I got to the Harvard/NU game in the Beanpot she'd already been chased from the ice.
 
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Not sure they over pass. You don't need to wait for the perfect shot but they are so predictable with the shot from the point and more times than not it gets blocked. The shot selection is poor and often results in the shot being blocked. If I remember correctly the PP was at it's best when Edney and Mastel were the first pair and then they started to tinker with a PP that had no problems i.e putting a F instead of a D and running 4 F on the PP....neither here nor there....seems that just when things start to work for this team the coaches start to switch things up....the moral of the story is that I think we can all agree that the Harvard PP is lack luster at best. Hopefully it comes around as they will need to be sharp this weekend.
 
On the first Yale goal on Friday night, Maschmeyer let the puck bounce off her shoulder and into the net. If she had taken a better angle, it would have never gone in. The D coverage was fine - that wasn't the problem. The second goal was a result of poor coverage but Maschmeyer also got caught leaning the wrong way and was out of position to the point where she couldn't recover in time. Crowell obviously saw the same things and decided to go with Liang. Think about it. Why would you go with your backup in a do or die situation unless you felt that your primary goalie was having some issues, be it fatigue or injury or just fighting the puck. I think Maschmeyer's mechanics when right are some of the best in the country. But right now, she's perhaps just not seeing the puck very well.

No question Leonoff was off her game on Sunday and who could blame her? She was gassed with having to face so many shots. She kept Yale in a series they had no business winning and that's to her credit. Give credit to Harvard as well for setting up some nice plays to score. It wasn't totally Leonoff's fault.

Ok, so how about staenz's goal on Laing from the point that wasn't even going on net? My point is that there is more to goaltending than your worst mistake. It's only when you play the weaker teams that this argument becomes more favorable. I saw matschmeyer make many game saving plays in her 3 starts, but the forwards just couldn't score on time to make them count.
 
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Ok, so how about staenz's goal on Laing from the point that wasn't even going on net? My point is that there is more to goaltending than your worst mistake. It's only when you play the weaker teams that this argument becomes more favorable. I saw matschmeyer make many game saving plays in her 3 starts, but the forwards just couldn't score on time to make them count.

Seriously? That shot was a bullet and it was directly on net. Laing may have been able to stop it but it was a good shot and on net. I was there and I had a direct view of the play. What game were you watching?

Maschmeyer did not perform to her usual capability and that is why the coach pulled her. Your arguments simply don't hold water. It isn't an indictment of her as a goalie. We all know she is very good. But lately, she has not performed to the level that we or her coaches expect of her. I'm sure she would tell you that the first goal on Friday night was her fault.

Give it a rest John. No one is slamming Maschmeyer and you need to give Liang more credit for saving Harvard's season.
 
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Seriously? That shot was a bullet and it was directly on net. Laing may have been able to stop it but it was a good shot and on net. I was there and I had a direct view of the play. What game were you watching?

Maschmeyer did not perform to her usual capability and that is why the coach pulled her. Your arguments simply don't hold water. It isn't an indictment of her as a goalie. We all know she is very good. But lately, she has not performed to the level that we or her coaches expect of her. I'm sure she would tell you that the first goal on Friday night was her fault.

Give it a rest John. No one is slamming Maschmeyer and you need to give Liang more credit for saving Harvard's season.

I have a thought and a few questions. My thought is that the whole purpose of the season is to make sure that, come playoff time, every one knows their role on the team and has been trained/coached to know they can succeed in that role. More specifically, that every player knows what they need to do for the team, how to do it, and fully believe that they are more than up for the task. Maybe I'm wrong, but late-season line changes and goalie swaps are a risky proposition precisely because players re-question their basic roles on the team. I get it that sometimes coaches need to ride the hot hand, and sometimes it works. That said, making changes this late also indicates a lack of confidence in the previous six-plus months worth of work. My questions are these: Am I wrong? What am I missing?
 
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I have a thought and a few questions. My thought is that the whole purpose of the season is to make sure that, come playoff time, every one knows their role on the team and has been trained/coached to know they can succeed in that role. More specifically, that every player knows what they need to do for the team, how to do it, and fully believe that they are more than up for the task. Maybe I'm wrong, but late-season line changes and goalie swaps are a risky proposition precisely because players re-question their basic roles on the team. I get it that sometimes coaches need to ride the hot hand, and sometimes it works. That said, making changes this late also indicates a lack of confidence in the previous six-plus months worth of work. My questions are these: Am I wrong? What am I missing?
I agree, but I'd say the main downside of late-season changes is you probably then haven't had the opportunity to perform with these lines or the goalie against the best competition.

Still I don't think anyone here is disagreeing with you. I'm fine with benching Maschmeyer vs. Yale since Liang had proven she could handle that role during the season, and she did handle that role just fine. But I think most of us agree that giving Liang the starting nod this weekend primarily because of the performance against Yale would be a bad idea, since it's Maschmeyer who's filled the starting role against the best teams all season, and she's been exceptional in that role. That said, it's possible you start Liang if there are reasons apart from last weekend to suggest that Maschmeyer won't replicate her previous strong performance against the ECAC's best. If Liang does start, I'd be interested to hear the rationale.
 
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Not to change the subject, but here's an article from Foster's Daily Democrat (Dover, NH) about the Stone family.
John Doyle: Dover’s Larry Stone spawned a generation of coaches

Thursday, March 6, 2014

Larry Stone is a man of sport. The Dover High School graduate and longtime athletic director at the Taft School in Watertown, Conn., has four children who went on to make careers in coaching, and one of them just led the U.S. women’s hockey team to the silver medal at the Sochi Olympic games.

“He had two boys and two girls and each of us played what was available for us to play,” said Katey Stone, Larry’s youngest daughter and former hockey and lacrosse player at the University of New Hampshire. “There was some carryover with hockey, which was great, but he believed in providing opportunities for boys and girls to excel in athletics.”

Katey Stone makes her full-time living as the women’s hockey coach at Harvard University, where she is the winningest coach in NCAA history and led the Crimson to the national championship game three times. She took this year off to concentrate on her national-team duties, and became the first woman to coach the U.S. women’s team. She was also the only female head coach of the eight at the Sochi Games.


Dover High School graduate Larry Stone, longtime athletic director and coach at the Taft School in Connecticut, is the father of four full-time coaches, including U.S. women’s hockey coach Katey Stone. (Courtesy photo)

Larry Stone coached football, baseball and basketball, and his children’s sporting profile is a patchwork of different sports as well. Mike Stone his 27th season as the head baseball coach at the University of Massachusetts where he has compiled a 633-578-3 (.523) record with the Minutemen, along with eight conference titles. Kelly Stone is now athletic director at the Convent of the Sacred Heart in Greenwich, Conn. Jimmy Stone played center field for the University of North Carolina, is now the football and baseball coach, as well as the assistant athletic director, at Blair Academy in Blairstown, N.J.

Before she became the women’s hockey coach at Harvard, Katey Stone was the field hockey and lacrosse coach and assistant athletic director at Hotchkiss School in Lakeville, Conn.

“He always expected you to do your best, play your hardest, hustle, and the rest would take care of itself,” Katey said about her father. “I think the reason why we all got into coaching because we saw how much fun he was having when he did it.”

Katey said the seeds of her passion for sports and coaching were sown when she and her siblings would go to Larry’s football practices as children.

“We’d stand outside the huddle listening to his motivational talks,” Katey said. “I sat on the bench in baseball, doing the stat book right next to him. We were right up close to what he was doing. That’s why it was a natural progression.”

After spending some time with the Atlanta Braves organization as a minor-league pitcher, Larry Stone coached for nine years at public high schools in Exeter and Portsmouth. He began his tenure at Taft in 1962.

Lu, his wife, was the receptionist in the school’s admissions office for 20 years.

“One of the things about coaching is if you’ve been a competitive athlete, it’s a great way to stay competitive,” Katey said, “and to help other athletes and to achieve more than they’re capable of doing. He was a perfect example of that.”

Now Katey is looking forward to decompressing after an intense year of Olympic preparation and the Games themselves. She will return to the Harvard bench in the fall.

“It was an incredible honor and privilege,” Katey said of her Olympic experience. “We had a great journey. The outcome was not what we worked so hard for, but everyone was working toward that goal.”

The U.S. lost to rival Canada in the gold-medal game, one which the U.S. led 2-0 with minutes to play in regulation. Canada won the game 3-2 in overtime. Former UNH defenseman Kacey Bellamy was a prominent member of the U.S. team.

“Hockey’s a game of inches,” Katey said. “We put ourselves in the best position possible, and I couldn’t be prouder of the players and the program.”

Katey said she still follows the Harvard team, which is ranked No. 5 in the country with a 23-5-4 record and will play Cornell in the ECAC semifinals this weekend.

Other than that, just getting some rest is the biggest item on her agenda.

“I’ll take it as it comes,” she said. “I’m not looking too far down the road. I’ll take some time off now, play some golf hopefully, and get to some warm weather.”
 
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I agree, but I'd say the main downside of late-season changes is you probably then haven't had the opportunity to perform with these lines or the goalie against the best competition.

Still I don't think anyone here is disagreeing with you. I'm fine with benching Maschmeyer vs. Yale since Liang had proven she could handle that role during the season, and she did handle that role just fine. But I think most of us agree that giving Liang the starting nod this weekend primarily because of the performance against Yale would be a bad idea, since it's Maschmeyer who's filled the starting role against the best teams all season, and she's been exceptional in that role. That said, it's possible you start Liang if there are reasons apart from last weekend to suggest that Maschmeyer won't replicate her previous strong performance against the ECAC's best. If Liang does start, I'd be interested to hear the rationale.

Here is some rational. This is what we know. Maschmeyer has had the opportunity to play against all the best teams Harvard has played and performed very well. Laing on the other hand has not had the opportunity to play against those teams and so it’s fair to say we can’t predict how she would have performed against those teams. We also know that Maschmeyer has played against the same teams Laing has played against and this is the results.

Maschmeyer Laing

Union 3 – 0 W Union 2 – 0 W
Brown 3 – 0 W Brown 3 – 1 W
Yale 0 – 2 L Yale 3 – 2 (double OT) W
Yale 3 – 3 T Yale 4 – 0 W
Yale 2 – 3 (double OT) L
Colgate 5 – 4 W Colgate 2 – 0 W
NU (Bean Pot) 1 period played – 3 GA NU (Bean Pot) 2 periods played – 1 GA

Rational: seems to me though Laing has not played against the so called stronger teams, she has played against the same common opponent and has performed as well if not better than Maschmeyer.

With that said I think most coaches would love to have 2 such good goaltenders on their team and it’s probably safe to say they would be happy to have just 1. Maschmeyer has played very well this season against Cornell with 2 wins, and I am very confident that she is capable of having the same success this Saturday and think she will get the start, but that is not to say if asked to play Laing wouldn’t have the same success. Good luck to Harvard regardless of which goaltender is asked to play.
 
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I agree, but I'd say the main downside of late-season changes is you probably then haven't had the opportunity to perform with these lines or the goalie against the best competition.

Still I don't think anyone here is disagreeing with you. I'm fine with benching Maschmeyer vs. Yale since Liang had proven she could handle that role during the season, and she did handle that role just fine. But I think most of us agree that giving Liang the starting nod this weekend primarily because of the performance against Yale would be a bad idea, since it's Maschmeyer who's filled the starting role against the best teams all season, and she's been exceptional in that role. That said, it's possible you start Liang if there are reasons apart from last weekend to suggest that Maschmeyer won't replicate her previous strong performance against the ECAC's best. If Liang does start, I'd be interested to hear the rationale.

There's another way to look at this. A big part of roster decisions and ice time come playoff time depends not only who has performed strongest and most consistently throughout the season, but also who has the most mental strength to perform at their optimum and rise to the occasion under pressure extremes. Many very good players let nerves get the best of them under those circumstances. This can be especially true of goalies, because so much of it is in the head.

You are looking at the decision in terms of the opponent and season record (Yale vs Cornell) rather than the situation (regular season vs playoff pressure and loser goes home)

The very best goal scorers are not always necessarily the ones you choose in pressure-packed shoot-out situations, and the third shooter is typically the one who handles that kind of pressure best, maybe even thrives on it. It is often not the highest goal scorer on the team. The best and most recent example of this is TJ Oshie who was repeatedly astounding in the ultimate of pressure situations in Olympic shoot-outs, but ranks only 98th in NHL goals scored this season and doesn't even lead his NHL team in goals. You'd have to be an idiot to put anyone else out there in that kind of situation despite other players having better season-long records.

The three highest pressure games Maschmeyer played in this season with extra significance were those in the Beanpot vs Northeastern, the last game versus Clarkson for 1st place seed, and the first playoff game vs Yale. All three of those ended in Harvard losses. Maybe it's unfair to pin responsibility for the Clarkson loss on Maschmeyer, but the fact that Harvard was ranked much higher than Northeastern and Yale, yet Harvard lost, has significance. In the Northeastern game she was chased early. Looking at the videos of the Yale series, she was leaving big juicy rebounds much of the first night but Yale rarely seemed to be in the right position to be able to capitalize.

Though you could argue it was risky given the track records, Harvard absolutely made the right decision in playing Laing the next two nights. If Harvard loses the next game, they are done. She proved she had the mental make-up to deal with an even higher pressure situation, despite having had little experience during the season. The kid deserves a ton of credit. She played better than Maschmeyer and was masterful in rebound control.

Regardless of her season's consistency, I'd be at least questioning at this point how well Maschmeyer's psyche deals with pressure, and I would very seriously consider playing Laing this weekend. She didn't crack twice in a row with Harvard's season on the line.
 
If Harvard loses the next game, they are done.
In terms of the ECAC, yes, but not in terms of the season, because the Crimson would be alive in the NCAA picture even had they lost the Yale series.
 
Seriously? That shot was a bullet and it was directly on net. Laing may have been able to stop it but it was a good shot and on net. I was there and I had a direct view of the play. What game were you watching?

Maschmeyer did not perform to her usual capability and that is why the coach pulled her. Your arguments simply don't hold water. It isn't an indictment of her as a goalie. We all know she is very good. But lately, she has not performed to the level that we or her coaches expect of her. I'm sure she would tell you that the first goal on Friday night was her fault.

Give it a rest John. No one is slamming Maschmeyer and you need to give Liang more credit for saving Harvard's season.

And I am not slamming Laing either. I was among the first people to say she played a great game. No need to get so defensive. What I find so funny is that you call some of the goals Leonoff and Maschmeyer gave up as "soft" and a slap shot from the point that ended up hitting her hand and going in a good goal. Bottom line is this: Laing did amazing given the situation she was put in. HOWEVER, had she played in any of the first three games the outcome would likely have been the same. This is the point I am trying to make. Be careful with the pictures you choose to paint, many people who read these forums have not seen the game, and some of your thoughts really paint a dark light over one particular player's season. This is a team game, it is completely unfair to elude that Laing is the better goalie based on 2 games. What it sounds like to me is that these 3 losses were mostly due to goaltending. I would just like to say there are 5 players the puck must get through before it even gets to the goalie, and the way those players perform has more weight than you give it credit for.

As a side note, I completely agree with crowells decision to play Laing against Yale. And I do not know if there is a right answer for who to play vs cornell. What I do know as a parent of a former goalie is that it is not okay to say that the losing teams goalie is the only reason the team lost. Maybe I misinterpreted, but all I have seen you talk about is bad refs and soft goaltending.
 
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There's another way to look at this. A big part of roster decisions and ice time come playoff time depends not only who has performed strongest and most consistently throughout the season, but also who has the most mental strength to perform at their optimum and rise to the occasion under pressure extremes. Many very good players let nerves get the best of them under those circumstances. This can be especially true of goalies, because so much of it is in the head.

Unless Mary Parker makes it back for this weekend, Harvard will not have the luxury of doling out minutes to players who performed consistently during the regular season. In fact, I would go so far as to say that the entire team deserves credit for handling the pressure of a win or go home scenario not once but twice last weekend with one of the games going again to 2OT. You can't ask much more in terms of mental or physical strength than what they showed against Yale. They will be more than ready to handle this weekend's pressure.

Though you could argue it was risky given the track records, Harvard absolutely made the right decision in playing Laing the next two nights. If Harvard loses the next game, they are done. She proved she had the mental make-up to deal with an even higher pressure situation, despite having had little experience during the season. The kid deserves a ton of credit. She played better than Maschmeyer and was masterful in rebound control.

Regardless of her season's consistency, I'd be at least questioning at this point how well Maschmeyer's psyche deals with pressure, and I would very seriously consider playing Laing this weekend. She didn't crack twice in a row with Harvard's season on the line.

As has been pointed out, we're not done if we lose on Saturday. Just out of the picture for home ice in the NCAA quarters. As for Laing, I'm comfortable going with her on Saturday if the coach deems that Maschmeyer just isn't ready (and again, this may be more than psyche - we don't know if there is an injury or fatigue factor at work here). I believe that either goalie can perform and help the team win on Saturday.
 
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Regardless of the season-ending probabilities of the Yale series, I agree it was a good decision to play Laing against Yale given the circumstances.

Trillium's list of big games was cherry-picked. Harvard's 3-1 win at Cornell in front of 2,000 is on par with these other big games.

If we had seriously doubts about Maschmeyer under pressure, than it was a mistake not to play Laing against the top-flight competition earlier this season.
 
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And I am not slamming Laing either. I was among the first people to say she played a great game. No need to get so defensive. What I find so funny is that you call some of the goals Leonoff and Maschmeyer gave up as "soft" and a slap shot from the point that ended up hitting her hand and going in a good goal. Bottom line is this: Laing did amazing given the situation she was put in. HOWEVER, had she played in any of the first three games the outcome would likely have been the same. This is the point I am trying to make. Be careful with the pictures you choose to paint, many people who read these forums have not seen the game, and some of your thoughts really paint a dark light over one particular player's season. This is a team game, it is completely unfair to elude that Laing is the better goalie based on 2 games. What it sounds like to me is that these 3 losses were mostly due to goaltending. I would just like to say there are 5 players the puck must get through before it even gets to the goalie, and the way those players perform has more weight than you give it credit for.

I'm not being defensive here. I'm just trying to understand where you are coming from with your thesis. I'm not concluding that Laing is the better goalie. I'm saying that she performed very well this weekend and in several instances, made some fabulous saves that preserved Harvard's season. How is that going negative?

And how do you know that the outcome of the first three games against Yale would have been different had Laing played? Maybe Friday night's game but who knows about the outcomes of the other two games. That's revisionist history. And I can't take into account who attended or watched any particular game when I post my comments. I can only go by what I see.

Of course hockey is a team game. Inside any one game however, a player or group of players can have a significant bearing on the final score, both good and bad. If Leonoff doesn't make the saves she made on Friday, the series would have been over in two games. Plain and simple.
 
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