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Guns For Everyone!: Another Mass Shooting!
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People are weird. That's what I was thinking when I first heard the story. Some guy, living in one of the toniest neighborhoods in the country is literally manufacturing guns in his basement? W T F?
But the tweet posted by Handy is a precise example of what I was talking about when I said in another thread the we live in an age of hysteria. Rather than just tweet, "ATF raiding home in expensive California neighborhood where guy is manufacturing guns in basement" it has to be tweeted "ATF raiding home of white supremacist with hundreds of guns."
It's inaccurate and is simply meant to inflame a certain segment of society.
People are weird. That's what I was thinking when I first heard the story. Some guy, living in one of the toniest neighborhoods in the country is literally manufacturing guns in his basement? W T F?
But the tweet posted by Handy is a precise example of what I was talking about when I said in another thread the we live in an age of hysteria. Rather than just tweet, "ATF raiding home in expensive California neighborhood where guy is manufacturing guns in basement" it has to be tweeted "ATF raiding home of white supremacist with hundreds of guns."
It's inaccurate and is simply meant to inflame a certain segment of society.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
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It's like when William Holden gets invited upstairs in Sunset Boulevard she's got guns instead of a dead monkey.
dx: I know you hate old movies but you have to watch that. You have to.
It's like when William Holden gets invited upstairs in Sunset Boulevard she's got guns instead of a dead monkey.
dx: I know you hate old movies but you have to watch that. You have to.
St. Clown
Ideas Posted are Likely Not My Own
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Looking at a photo of one of the two CO high school shooters, and the kid has his hair done up like Two Face from the Batman comics.
I'm waiting for the, "We didn't see this coming from him!" line in 3, 2, 1.
Looking at a photo of one of the two CO high school shooters, and the kid has his hair done up like Two Face from the Batman comics.
I'm waiting for the, "We didn't see this coming from him!" line in 3, 2, 1.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
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I know what you are talking about. The outlet originally misidentified him as a girl which is why they mentioned he is transitioning. They didn't do what the cited article did which was to get the conservadopes in a lather by throwing it in gratuitously.
Please don't defend these f-cks. They are bigots writing for bigots. They have that right and we have the right to call them on their hateful stupidity.
I know what you are talking about. The outlet originally misidentified him as a girl which is why they mentioned he is transitioning. They didn't do what the cited article did which was to get the conservadopes in a lather by throwing it in gratuitously.
Please don't defend these f-cks. They are bigots writing for bigots. They have that right and we have the right to call them on their hateful stupidity.
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Kepler
Cornell Big Red
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Is that the one with the purple? I actually think the purple is kind of cute hair. "Portrait of a Young Robert Smith As An Attempted Mass Murderer."
<img src="https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190508171440-devon-erickson-court-appearance-0508-exlarge-169.jpg" height="300">
Now feed him to the hounds.
Is that the one with the purple? I actually think the purple is kind of cute hair. "Portrait of a Young Robert Smith As An Attempted Mass Murderer."
<img src="https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190508171440-devon-erickson-court-appearance-0508-exlarge-169.jpg" height="300">
Now feed him to the hounds.
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I didn't read the article that had been linked to, just looked at the offending headline that upset you. I just thought it necessary to point out that the whole issue of the gender of one of the shooters had been reported by mainstream news outlets as well, simply for the pronoun issue, and not just whatever rag Flaggy chose to link to that day.
Obviously the person's gender, and any transition they may be undergoing, is irrelevant.
I didn't read the article that had been linked to, just looked at the offending headline that upset you. I just thought it necessary to point out that the whole issue of the gender of one of the shooters had been reported by mainstream news outlets as well, simply for the pronoun issue, and not just whatever rag Flaggy chose to link to that day.
Obviously the person's gender, and any transition they may be undergoing, is irrelevant.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
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I can't make it any clearer than I already have: you are comparing a case where the outlet is trying to clear up an ambiguity with one where the outlet is stoking hate and fear from their moron audience.
I don't seem to be very good at communicating simple and clear differences these days.
I can't make it any clearer than I already have: you are comparing a case where the outlet is trying to clear up an ambiguity with one where the outlet is stoking hate and fear from their moron audience.
I don't seem to be very good at communicating simple and clear differences these days.
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I'm not comparing anything. My initial post was not intended as a defense of anyone or any article that purported to make an issue out of the shooter's gender, even though it appears that's how some of you took it.
You cited the headline which said something like "one shooter is transitioning from female to male" and objected to Flaggy continuously linking to rags that try to inflame people. I only wanted to point out that other news outlets, considered more "mainstream" were also reporting on that topic. Nothing more, nothing less.
I'm not comparing anything. My initial post was not intended as a defense of anyone or any article that purported to make an issue out of the shooter's gender, even though it appears that's how some of you took it.
You cited the headline which said something like "one shooter is transitioning from female to male" and objected to Flaggy continuously linking to rags that try to inflame people. I only wanted to point out that other news outlets, considered more "mainstream" were also reporting on that topic. Nothing more, nothing less.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
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My whole point here is you are saying "x is like y" and I am saying "x is not like y."
Like I said, I can't seem to be able to get across even this fundamentally simple concept. I understand what you are saying. I am saying that in saying this you are missing the essential point -- that what you take to be the same action (mentioning his gender) is not the same action (in one case it's informational in the other case it's done to whip up an emotional effect). You are equating non-equivalents.
Now, you may disagree with me. But I can't seem to state clearly what I am even pointing out, and this isn't the first time I've been incapable of being understood. I think I'm losing it...
Is anybody else getting this? I'm starting worry, here.
My whole point here is you are saying "x is like y" and I am saying "x is not like y."
Like I said, I can't seem to be able to get across even this fundamentally simple concept. I understand what you are saying. I am saying that in saying this you are missing the essential point -- that what you take to be the same action (mentioning his gender) is not the same action (in one case it's informational in the other case it's done to whip up an emotional effect). You are equating non-equivalents.
Now, you may disagree with me. But I can't seem to state clearly what I am even pointing out, and this isn't the first time I've been incapable of being understood. I think I'm losing it...
Is anybody else getting this? I'm starting worry, here.
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Yeah, I get it. But what I'm saying is I wasn't trying to equate non-equivalents. All I saw was the headline you cited. I didn't read the story. I had no idea whether it was trying to inflame people or not. I simply read the very generic headline that supposedly offended you. I didn't interpret your objection to the headline as a statement that you had read the article and found it inflammatory.
Edit: The headline, as you cited it, read "Second suspect transitioning from female to male."
That is just a statement of fact, the same statement many other news outlets made. That's all I was saying.
Yeah, I get it. But what I'm saying is I wasn't trying to equate non-equivalents. All I saw was the headline you cited. I didn't read the story. I had no idea whether it was trying to inflame people or not. I simply read the very generic headline that supposedly offended you. I didn't interpret your objection to the headline as a statement that you had read the article and found it inflammatory.
Edit: The headline, as you cited it, read "Second suspect transitioning from female to male."
That is just a statement of fact, the same statement many other news outlets made. That's all I was saying.
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Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
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Well if he wasnt a Nazi I will mea culpa on that fact. The number of weapons is actually what scared me most.
Well if he wasnt a Nazi I will mea culpa on that fact. The number of weapons is actually what scared me most.
Hard to shoot more than two guns at a time.
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I didn't think it was anything you did, other that posting the guy's tweet. I just thought the guy's tweet was a classic example of what goes on in social media today where everyone becomes a "terrorist" or whatever.
I didn't think it was anything you did, other that posting the guy's tweet. I just thought the guy's tweet was a classic example of what goes on in social media today where everyone becomes a "terrorist" or whatever.
MissThundercat
Are the cis okay?
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Kep, Hovey...
As the board's one known transgender person, let me just say it's really frustrating having to justify my existence on a daily basis. Throwing in that one of the shooters is trans does not make it any easier.
Then again, if Republicans are scared of me, then I'm doing something right.
Kep, Hovey...
As the board's one known transgender person, let me just say it's really frustrating having to justify my existence on a daily basis. Throwing in that one of the shooters is trans does not make it any easier.
Then again, if Republicans are scared of me, then I'm doing something right.
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You shouldn't have to justify your existence, and if anyone tries to make this shooting crime a transgender story, I personally hope they rot away in he!!.
It became something noted by the news simply because the shooter's lawyer specifically noted it and made a request that the shooter be referred to by a specific pronoun.
Straight, gay, transgender, etc... We're all capable of great things and we're all capable of truly evil acts and none of it relates to our gender or how we identify.
You shouldn't have to justify your existence, and if anyone tries to make this shooting crime a transgender story, I personally hope they rot away in he!!.
It became something noted by the news simply because the shooter's lawyer specifically noted it and made a request that the shooter be referred to by a specific pronoun.
Straight, gay, transgender, etc... We're all capable of great things and we're all capable of truly evil acts and none of it relates to our gender or how we identify.
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This is spectacularly wrong. Men are significantly more likely to commit "truly evil acts."
This is spectacularly wrong. Men are significantly more likely to commit "truly evil acts."
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I wrote we're all capable of it. I didn't comment at all on who is more likely to do it.
I wrote we're all capable of it. I didn't comment at all on who is more likely to do it.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
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Well, that's good, because the answer to who is more likely is men. We're about 99 times more likely to do truly horrible sh-t, and women becoming more equal in society doesn't appear to be dropping that ratio.
Humans are bags of chemicals and the boy chemicals are much more likely to make you push somebody's face through a plate glass window to show dominance or just, you know, for fun.
Well, that's good, because the answer to who is more likely is men. We're about 99 times more likely to do truly horrible sh-t, and women becoming more equal in society doesn't appear to be dropping that ratio.
Humans are bags of chemicals and the boy chemicals are much more likely to make you push somebody's face through a plate glass window to show dominance or just, you know, for fun.
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Capable in the most basic sense, like we're all humans that are alive, sure. Way to go out on a limb.
Capable in the most basic sense, like we're all humans that are alive, sure. Way to go out on a limb.
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