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Grand unified 2020 election thread

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Oh yeah for sure. Put him out to pasture too. It is time for someone in charge who doesn't qualify for AARP.

Pelosi has said this is her farewell tour. She belongs as HML one more time. I hope she takes a strong heir apparent under her wing and makes her a co-pilot.
 
Anyone seen commentary on what is left out there to count from Nevada and Arizona? And does what is left give any sort of assumed edge to one candidate over the other? They don't seem to have moved in a while.
 
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I’m no good at math either, but at that rate, either they’re somehow counting all of the Biden votes now and saving the Trump ones for later, or Biden is going to win Pa.
 
Anyone seen commentary on what is left out there to count from Nevada and Arizona? And does what is left give any sort of assumed edge to one candidate over the other? They don't seem to have moved in a while.

Commentary on 538 blog:

  • Arizona: Biden currently leads here by 93,518 votes, but there are around 600,000 left to count, according to the Arizona Republic. About 450,000 of those are in Maricopa County, which says it will release two batches of results tonight: one at 9 p.m. Eastern and one sometime after 12:30 a.m. Eastern. Some outlets, such as Fox News, have already projected Arizona for Biden, but our colleagues at ABC News have not yet done so.
  • Nevada: Biden leads here by only 7,647 votes, and an estimated 14 percent of the vote is still uncounted. However, those votes will all be either late-arriving mail ballots or provisional ballots, which should lean Democratic. We won’t be getting another update here until noon Eastern on Thursday.

Additional analysis:

Arizona. We may need to do a longer post on Arizona later. What’s left to count is mostly mail votes that were returned late in the process — on Monday or Tuesday. There’s some ambiguity about how many ballots this actually is; Edison Research seems to think around 450,000. If so, Trump would need to win those votes by 21 points to overtake Biden’s current 93,000-vote lead. They’re disrupted fairly evenly throughout the state.

Wait — outstanding mail votes? Shouldn’t those be good for Biden, as in other states? Well, not necessarily, because Republicans have a fairly strong mail voting program in Arizona and — this is the key part — the mail ballots that were returned later in the process (the ones yet to be continued) were significantly redder than the ones that came in earlier on, as Democrats sent their votes in early. For instance, the party registration of the votes that came in Monday and Tuesday were: 23 percent Democratic, 44 percent Republican, and 33 percent independent or other parties. That is to say, a 21-point GOP edge, which would put Trump on track to tie things up.

But … here’s the bad news for Trump. Party registration may be a misleading indicator in Arizona. It has a lot of ancestral Republicans who have now turned into swing voters. Biden also had a big lead among independents in polls. And earlier batches of mail ballots were considerably stronger for Biden than party registration alone would suggest. So probably these ballots are going to come in more for Trump than for Biden, but not as strongly as he needs.

There’s also the fact that two other news organizations, the Associated Press and Fox News, have called the state for Biden. I’d assume they’ve put more work into looking into this than I have, so that shifts my priors a bit, but you never know and you will get incorrect calls occasionally. Overall, I’d say this is Likely Biden but I don’t think the state should have been called yet.

Nevada. This one’s a bit more straightforward. Biden leads by only 0.6 percent or about 7,500 votes. But what’s remaining should be pretty good for him. It’s all mail-in ballots that were either received late in the process or which are still coming in — in Nevada, mail ballots can be received by Nov. 10 provided they’re postmarked by Election Day. The mail ballots were quite blue in Nevada by party registration, much more so than in Arizona, including votes that arrived relatively late in the process. Likely Biden.
 
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Michigan Senate reporting just went whacko on expected vote in. Almost the entire map shifted...

Peters now needs to underperform by 3.1 to lose
 
I’m no good at math either, but at that rate, either they’re somehow counting all of the Biden votes now and saving the Trump ones for later, or Biden is going to win Pa.

If that trending holds Biden wins PA by about 260k.
 
Thanks... Maricopa county seems to lean Dem? So a hopeful sign if you are a Biden supporter? (Knowing there are no guarantees of course)

I guess; he gives good arguments in both directions though; it does make me wonder what those who have called it know.
 
CNN saying in private, Trump campaign officials not feeling too optimistic.

Given up on a WI recount, kinda feeling PA isn't gonna happen, pinning their hopes on maybe reversing AZ.
 
I was going to ask about Wisconsin and the claims of "more votes than voters" but I found that WI has same day voter registration. I'd says it's nearly guaranteed that updated registered voter number is not being used in the comparisons so the claim is almost surely baseless.
 
Oh yeah for sure. Put him out to pasture too. It is time for someone in charge who doesn't qualify for AARP.

And Perez. I didn’t think he was the right choice and I don’t think he is now either
 
Anyone seen commentary on what is left out there to count from Nevada and Arizona? And does what is left give any sort of assumed edge to one candidate over the other? They don't seem to have moved in a while.

AZ is mostly Maricopa county(Phoenix), I believe, so favors Biden. NV I believe is mail-in, so likewise.
 
CNN saying in private, Trump campaign officials not feeling too optimistic.

Given up on a WI recount, kinda feeling PA isn't gonna happen, pinning their hopes on maybe reversing AZ.

"feeling PA isn't gonna happen" meaning they won't win or it won't switch? Cuz if they don't win PA then AZ doesn't matter.
 
Where did Biden or a Democratic Senate candidate outperform the 538 forecast? Now same question about trump and republican Senate candidates?

The 538 snake had PA, FL, GA and NC in the Biden camp, and Biden is behind in or lost all 4. Biden's vote totals in WI, MI and NV all will fall far short of both the polls and the predicted totals on the 538 site. PA will too, it is only left to see how much, and I also still believe PA is lost to Biden. The pollsters he aggregates all supposedly shored up their methodology and 538 also adjusted how they graded polls and how they did the other things to wind up with what were their predictions.

All the errors that mattered, much like 2016, were in trump's (or another republican's) favor. Frankly, 538 did worse this time than they did in 2016.

Of course the real villains in this horror movie aren't the pollsters. The real villains are the American voters. I know Kep thinks we're growing more human and less ape all the time. I think that is utter and complete bull5h!t. We're suffering the worst crisis we've seen in multiple generations. We have literally just lived through 4 years of the most corrupt president that has ever served and almost without a doubt the most inept. He is also the worst human person we've ever had for a president. If we were a stagnant species as far as our evolution from ape to human, trump would have lost in a no brainer and Biden's coattails would have carried a Democratic Senate with him. We are moving backwards. It isn't even a slow move back, and it is accelerating. And all of that is how I feel IF Biden somehow hangs on to his 270 Electoral College votes.
 
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