Rimbaud
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Re: Going without cable? (aka, "home market" blackouts suck)
Ouch, I'm at 40 a month for 20mb.
Ouch, I'm at 40 a month for 20mb.
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Going without cable? (aka, "home market" blackouts suck)
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Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Re: Going without cable? (aka, "home market" blackouts suck)
That is the middle plan here (for the first 6 months) the top plan is $56.
That is the middle plan here (for the first 6 months) the top plan is $56.
Rimbaud
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Re: Going without cable? (aka, "home market" blackouts suck)
In San Diego only one cable company is available in different neighborhoods. Hooray free market enterprise?
In San Diego only one cable company is available in different neighborhoods. Hooray free market enterprise?
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Re: Going without cable? (aka, "home market" blackouts suck)
Yeah...TW sold the Twin Cities because they wanted part of LA so they struck a deal with Comcast and here we are. That doesnt seem like collusion at all...
Yeah...TW sold the Twin Cities because they wanted part of LA so they struck a deal with Comcast and here we are. That doesnt seem like collusion at all...
gmann
Cheer up, the worst is yet to come
Re: Going without cable? (aka, "home market" blackouts suck)
On the plus side, you won't have to watch BSU kick the shiat out of UNO four to six times per season.
On the plus side, you won't have to watch BSU kick the shiat out of UNO four to six times per season.
WeWantMore
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Re: Going without cable? (aka, "home market" blackouts suck)
I went without cable to save some money last year. It was pretty manageable, all I really watch live TV for is sports, and between ESPN3, atdhe, Veetle, and Sopcast I was very very well covered there. For scripted shows I liked, I just downloaded them or watched them via Hulu the next day.
That being said, I did wind up adding cable again this past January. It's nice to be able to watch things in HD and not have to worry about scrambling to find a stream of anything. So essentially I'm now paying $60 a month for convenience's sake, which is rather silly I guess, but whatever.
Oh, should mention that I found it a lot harder to find a good baseball stream than for any other sport. Since baseball is probably my 5th favorite sport, I could deal with that okay, I know that might be annoying for some people though.
I went without cable to save some money last year. It was pretty manageable, all I really watch live TV for is sports, and between ESPN3, atdhe, Veetle, and Sopcast I was very very well covered there. For scripted shows I liked, I just downloaded them or watched them via Hulu the next day.
That being said, I did wind up adding cable again this past January. It's nice to be able to watch things in HD and not have to worry about scrambling to find a stream of anything. So essentially I'm now paying $60 a month for convenience's sake, which is rather silly I guess, but whatever.
Oh, should mention that I found it a lot harder to find a good baseball stream than for any other sport. Since baseball is probably my 5th favorite sport, I could deal with that okay, I know that might be annoying for some people though.
unofan
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Re: Going without cable? (aka, "home market" blackouts suck)
High speed internet is anywhere from $30-$60 through Qwest depending on what speed you want (1.5 up to 20 mbps, though they just laid new fiber in my neighborhood to allow up to 40 mbps, no idea on the cost for that). If you add phone service that knocks $10 off (of course you're paying $20 for phone), if you add Direct TV that knocks off $5, but then you add in whatever Direct TV costs.
mediacom cable is a bigger ripoff all around. $60 for 15mbps internet w/o cable, $45 with cable, and their cheapest cable package (~20 channels) is something like $20/month, real cable (~70 channels) is like $45/month. To get HD signals would require a box and the super expanded basic lineup for like $70/month.
So, yeah. I'll take the $50/month high speed internet over the $90-$125 bundle.
username's a legacy at this point from my high school days - I'm a Dartmouth fan these days. Last couple of games I've been to in Omaha I've actually rooted for other teams. (wife's a wisconsin grad, friends were Miami grads, so why not).
High speed internet is anywhere from $30-$60 through Qwest depending on what speed you want (1.5 up to 20 mbps, though they just laid new fiber in my neighborhood to allow up to 40 mbps, no idea on the cost for that). If you add phone service that knocks $10 off (of course you're paying $20 for phone), if you add Direct TV that knocks off $5, but then you add in whatever Direct TV costs.
mediacom cable is a bigger ripoff all around. $60 for 15mbps internet w/o cable, $45 with cable, and their cheapest cable package (~20 channels) is something like $20/month, real cable (~70 channels) is like $45/month. To get HD signals would require a box and the super expanded basic lineup for like $70/month.
So, yeah. I'll take the $50/month high speed internet over the $90-$125 bundle.
On the plus side, you won't have to watch BSU kick the shiat out of UNO four to six times per season.
username's a legacy at this point from my high school days - I'm a Dartmouth fan these days. Last couple of games I've been to in Omaha I've actually rooted for other teams. (wife's a wisconsin grad, friends were Miami grads, so why not).
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jmh
win or lose, we booze
Re: Going without cable? (aka, "home market" blackouts suck)
Same here. It sucks. I cannot WAIT for Fios to come to my neighborhood so I can either switch and get a good intro package, or at least use it to coerce a better rate out of TWC.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Going without cable? (aka, "home market" blackouts suck)
Moving to a new house and I'm seriously debating entering into a contract with any of these scumbag companies. I need internet, but with my iPhone and the unlimited data plan (legacy) with a jailbroken tether, I'm convinced I could do everything but stream netflix. I can get a satellite package with EVERYTHING (literally) for about the price Comcast charges for their most basic of HD packages with sports.
Plus I'm hesitant about signing a two year contract unless pricing can be guaranteed for 24 months. I can't help but think a new subscriber would be able to demand this and when you get ready to hang up they'll beg you for your business.
Moving to a new house and I'm seriously debating entering into a contract with any of these scumbag companies. I need internet, but with my iPhone and the unlimited data plan (legacy) with a jailbroken tether, I'm convinced I could do everything but stream netflix. I can get a satellite package with EVERYTHING (literally) for about the price Comcast charges for their most basic of HD packages with sports.
Plus I'm hesitant about signing a two year contract unless pricing can be guaranteed for 24 months. I can't help but think a new subscriber would be able to demand this and when you get ready to hang up they'll beg you for your business.
Re: Going without cable? (aka, "home market" blackouts suck)
Thinking about cutting the cord, although I love the option of "what channel do I want to watch?" I don't have any of the "pay" channels (HBO, Cinemax, SHO, etc). Just the sports package. And given the requirements to get the sports package, I fall in line. That is what always gets me. It's to the point where I would pay X to get the channels I want, and not X+30% to get all the channels I have now, to throw out a number.
Right, thats why I said keep cable and drop the "add on" channels.
Thinking about cutting the cord, although I love the option of "what channel do I want to watch?" I don't have any of the "pay" channels (HBO, Cinemax, SHO, etc). Just the sports package. And given the requirements to get the sports package, I fall in line. That is what always gets me. It's to the point where I would pay X to get the channels I want, and not X+30% to get all the channels I have now, to throw out a number.
Re: Going without cable? (aka, "home market" blackouts suck)
I got rid of DishNetwork almost a year ago. Was paying $55 a month for that, and at one point I went three solid months without even turning it on. I started downloading the couple of shows I wanted to watch on iTunes, and it saves me at least half, and I can watch them in HD, which I couldn't with Dish. Don't miss it at all, especially because I coudln't get any of the good stuff, no HD, no NHL Center Ice, and I'm pretty sure the only sports channels I got were a few ESPN varients. Only bad thing is I dunno how I'm gonna be able to watch the NCAA's and Frozen Four this year.
I'm totally getting screwed over with internet though. I'm paying $85 a month for a landline phone (which I never use) and DSL (1 MB
). Hooray for lack of competition!
I got rid of DishNetwork almost a year ago. Was paying $55 a month for that, and at one point I went three solid months without even turning it on. I started downloading the couple of shows I wanted to watch on iTunes, and it saves me at least half, and I can watch them in HD, which I couldn't with Dish. Don't miss it at all, especially because I coudln't get any of the good stuff, no HD, no NHL Center Ice, and I'm pretty sure the only sports channels I got were a few ESPN varients. Only bad thing is I dunno how I'm gonna be able to watch the NCAA's and Frozen Four this year.
I'm totally getting screwed over with internet though. I'm paying $85 a month for a landline phone (which I never use) and DSL (1 MB
). Hooray for lack of competition!
unofan
Well-known member
Re: Going without cable? (aka, "home market" blackouts suck)
So yeah, talked with NHL customer service - Blues, Blackhawks, and Wild games are all blacked out locally on the Center Ice (cable/direct tv)/Gamecenter Live (internet streaming) packages. Those are in addition to the national NBC/Versus/NHL Network blackouts.
I'll probably still sign up for the package next fall, but registered my complaint about blackouts for games we can't get on even expanded basic cable locally. Just like MLB, there's no reason to allow teams to claim us as a home market if they broadcast on stations we don't get and never will get outside of a premium tier sports package.
So yeah, talked with NHL customer service - Blues, Blackhawks, and Wild games are all blacked out locally on the Center Ice (cable/direct tv)/Gamecenter Live (internet streaming) packages. Those are in addition to the national NBC/Versus/NHL Network blackouts.
I'll probably still sign up for the package next fall, but registered my complaint about blackouts for games we can't get on even expanded basic cable locally. Just like MLB, there's no reason to allow teams to claim us as a home market if they broadcast on stations we don't get and never will get outside of a premium tier sports package.
Re: Going without cable? (aka, "home market" blackouts suck)
Interesting map. For the most part the territories make sense. Not sure why the Brewers claim what looks like St. Louis County in NE Minnesota. And San Diego claiming a good chunk of Arizona, right up to the Phoenix area and over to the Arizona-New Mexico border is intersting.
Interesting map. For the most part the territories make sense. Not sure why the Brewers claim what looks like St. Louis County in NE Minnesota. And San Diego claiming a good chunk of Arizona, right up to the Phoenix area and over to the Arizona-New Mexico border is intersting.
aparch
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Re: Going without cable? (aka, "home market" blackouts suck)
http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/tools/med/2006/06/ipt/1150742098.jpg
For those of you where figuring out which shade of stripe is for what teams may be difficult.
Part of the weird overlaps (ie: Minnesota) is possibly based on mileage from team and broadcast television signals.
But there are parts (Southwestern Idaho, Northwest Angle in MINN) that don't make a lick of sense.
THIS should be the TV market map. But that would make way too much sense.
http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/tools/med/2006/06/ipt/1150742098.jpg
For those of you where figuring out which shade of stripe is for what teams may be difficult.
Part of the weird overlaps (ie: Minnesota) is possibly based on mileage from team and broadcast television signals.
But there are parts (Southwestern Idaho, Northwest Angle in MINN) that don't make a lick of sense.
THIS should be the TV market map. But that would make way too much sense.