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Girls hockey

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Lindsay

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USA Hockey announced that for the first time ever they’ll have 100,000 girls and women as members this year.

Thought I’d share here what I see about girls hockey. No question it should continue to grow, which means more hockey fun for more girls. Love to see it.

Here’s a story someone sent me a few months back, this team has a feel somewhat like the one we started here where I live.

https://www.scarsdalenews.com/top_s...cle_e841eae6-b0c7-11ee-b99e-f3f19e8fd568.html
 
Rightnut said:
Yes. Girls and women only hockey. Protect women's sports.
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I believe there's a Cafe section of this forum you can keep the politics contained in, please.

It would be nice to have one forum left on the internet without smooth-brained political-obsessed idiots spreading toxicity and faux outrage.
 
Scott_TG said:
I believe there's a Cafe section of this forum you can keep the politics contained in, please.

It would be nice to have one forum left on the internet without smooth-brained political-obsessed idiots spreading toxicity and faux outrage.
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Sorry you are so offended on the Women's hockey forum to protect women's sports. It wasn't intended to be a political comment. As usual all the left can do is yell and make ad hominem attacks.
 
Rightnut said:
Sorry you are so offended on the Women's hockey forum to protect women's sports. It wasn't intended to be a political comment. As usual all the left can do is yell and make ad hominem attacks.
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Not intended to be political, yet you start spouting off about "the left".

We can celebrate women's sports without going into the toxic anti-trans rhetoric.

Trans athletes make up such a small amount of athletics at any level that they would be unnoticed if right wing outlets didn't use it as a wedge issue to their malleable smooth-brained terrified boomer audience who watches waiting to be told what to be mad at next.

Since you care so much about protecting women, where do you stand on a woman's right to choose? The wage gap? Are you pledging not to vote for the GOP nominee who stands credibly accused by multiple women and was found liable in civil court for sexually harassing women?

Or do women only matter when you can use them as a cudgel against people you hate just for existing?
 
Scott_TG said:
Not intended to be political, yet you start spouting off about "the left".

We can celebrate women's sports without going into the toxic anti-trans rhetoric.

Trans athletes make up such a small amount of athletics at any level that they would be unnoticed if right wing outlets didn't use it as a wedge issue to their malleable smooth-brained terrified boomer audience who watches waiting to be told what to be mad at next.

Since you care so much about protecting women, where do you stand on a woman's right to choose? The wage gap? Are you pledging not to vote for the GOP nominee who stands credibly accused by multiple women and was found liable in civil court for sexually harassing women?

Or do women only matter when you can use them as a cudgel against people you hate just for existing?
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You made it political with your "smooth brained" rhetoric. Its not anti trans to not let them play women's sports. Its pro women. Apparently you are not.
 
Conservative hypocrisy at its finest. You can attempt a hit-and-run injecting anti-trans rhetoric but I'm the one making it political for calling it out?

Trans people in sports is miniscule and it says a lot about the people who take the ragebait and obsess over it.
 
Scott_TG said:
Conservative hypocrisy at its finest. You can attempt a hit-and-run injecting anti-trans rhetoric but I'm the one making it political for calling it out?

Trans people in sports is miniscule and it says a lot about the people who take the ragebait and obsess over it.
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So now Martina Navratilova and JK Rowling are conservatives? If trans are so miniscule then its no big issue to keep them out of women's sports. In fact it is an issue and girls and women are boycotting competitions all over the world that they shouldn't have to. Its a big issue to the girls and women who lose roster spots and scholarship opporunities to trans or worse, are injured by them.
 
Rightnut said:
So now Martina Navratilova and JK Rowling are conservatives? If trans are so miniscule then its no big issue to keep them out of women's sports. In fact it is an issue and girls and women are boycotting competitions all over the world that they shouldn't have to. Its a big issue to the girls and women who lose roster spots and scholarship opporunities to trans or worse, are injured by them.
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Look up what a TERF is and you will find where Rowling and Navratilova fit in.

I'm against legislating to keep them out of sports because historically narrow legislation targeting an already marginalized community tends to be a precursor to greater discrimination and violence (see the Southern US and Black Codes and Nazi Germany and the Holocaust). As for the people "boycotting when they shouldn't have to": they don't have to and often do it so they can get their grift on with appearances on the conservative media circuit, paid speaking engagements, etc.
 
Scott_TG said:
Look up what a TERF is and you will find where Rowling and Navratilova fit in.

I'm against legislating to keep them out of sports because historically narrow legislation targeting an already marginalized community tends to be a precursor to greater discrimination and violence (see the Southern US and Black Codes and Nazi Germany and the Holocaust). As for the people "boycotting when they shouldn't have to": they don't have to and often do it so they can get their grift on with appearances on the conservative media circuit, paid speaking engagements, etc.
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TERF is a mysogynistic slur created by Trans-activists to bully women in keeping quiet about inequity. So unless "Scott TG" means Scott Trans Guy I don't think you should call anyone that. I guess you would add LSU basketball star Angel Reese and celebrity fitness trainer Jillian Michaels as evil TERFS as well.

There is no legislation keeping them out of sports. They are free to play in the sport of their sex - male sports. You conflate protecting women with exclusion, which it is not. As far as the "grift" - so you are saying a bunch of middle school girls who refuse to compete against a male are all part of a conservative media grift? Seems like you are the one who has the agenda here.
 
Rightnut said:
TERF is a mysogynistic slur created by Trans-activists to bully women in keeping quiet about inequity. So unless "Scott TG" means Scott Trans Guy I don't think you should call anyone that. I guess you would add LSU basketball star Angel Reese and celebrity fitness trainer Jillian Michaels as evil TERFS as well.

There is no legislation keeping them out of sports. They are free to play in the sport of their sex - male sports. You conflate protecting women with exclusion, which it is not. As far as the "grift" - so you are saying a bunch of middle school girls who refuse to compete against a male are all part of a conservative media grift? Seems like you are the one who has the agenda here.
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Yes, I'm sure it's the middle school girls choosing not to play, not the Fox-pilled parents pulling them out trying to make the news.

I noticed you side-stepped my earlier question about where you stand on other issues that actually affect the rights of women and girls in the US, as opposed to this red herring issue the right-wing media is obsessed over? Is it because you are like every other conservative who doesn't care about women until they can use them as their cudgel? We saw it in the south with lynchings of black people like Emmett Till and we see it today with those ginning up hatred against the LGBTQ community.

I can't wait until Fox moves on and you lot move on to whatever they tell you to be mad about next.
 
Scott_TG said:
Yes, I'm sure it's the middle school girls choosing not to play, not the Fox-pilled parents pulling them out trying to make the news.

I noticed you side-stepped my earlier question about where you stand on other issues that actually affect the rights of women and girls in the US, as opposed to this red herring issue the right-wing media is obsessed over? Is it because you are like every other conservative who doesn't care about women until they can use them as their cudgel? We saw it in the south with lynchings of black people like Emmett Till and we see it today with those ginning up hatred against the LGBTQ community.

I can't wait until Fox moves on and you lot move on to whatever they tell you to be mad about next.
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I don't get it. You act like a supporter of women's sports yet are willing to sacrifice them to get social currency in whatever circle you travel in. You act like protecting women's sports is akin to the Holocaust or Jim Crow. It's not. It's not targeting trans or preventing trans from doing anything. They can do their sports in some other arena. And women's sports is not related to any other social issue you try to bring up. The vast majority of the country, red, blue, liberal or conservative, believe that women's sports and women's spaces should be protected. Even that bastion of liberality, Bill Maher, has recently stated the same on his show. He points out it's only the crazy left fringe that doesn't agree. Maybe you are there. I don't care. You can spout MSNBC platitudes or whatever. I don't care what trans do. They can wear dresses or whatever. Adults can do what they want. No one is trying to stop them. But that doesn't give them the right to play women's sports or go into women's locker rooms because they feel like a woman.

I think the people on this board are sick and tired of our discussion so this is my last post on this thread so it stops moving to the top of the discussion list. Have a nice day. I do appreciate your work on the D3 side of things. Sorry we don't agree on this.
 
Scott_TG said:
Yes, I'm sure it's the middle school girls choosing not to play, not the Fox-pilled parents pulling them out trying to make the news.

I noticed you side-stepped my earlier question about where you stand on other issues that actually affect the rights of women and girls in the US, as opposed to this red herring issue the right-wing media is obsessed over? Is it because you are like every other conservative who doesn't care about women until they can use them as their cudgel? We saw it in the south with lynchings of black people like Emmett Till and we see it today with those ginning up hatred against the LGBTQ community.

I can't wait until Fox moves on and you lot move on to whatever they tell you to be mad about next.
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How did a thread about girls hockey get so far off base? Oh yeah, because you decided that you didn't like what another poster (rightnut) said and decided to interject your bias into it. Just his moniker must trigger you. Cheese and rice! You are attacking a supporter of women's college, one of the mythical 17 no less. Just stop.
 
Rightnut said:
I don't get it. You act like a supporter of women's sports yet are willing to sacrifice them to get social currency in whatever circle you travel in. You act like protecting women's sports is akin to the Holocaust or Jim Crow. It's not. It's not targeting trans or preventing trans from doing anything. They can do their sports in some other arena. And women's sports is not related to any other social issue you try to bring up. The vast majority of the country, red, blue, liberal or conservative, believe that women's sports and women's spaces should be protected. Even that bastion of liberality, Bill Maher, has recently stated the same on his show. He points out it's only the crazy left fringe that doesn't agree. Maybe you are there. I don't care. You can spout MSNBC platitudes or whatever. I don't care what trans do. They can wear dresses or whatever. Adults can do what they want. No one is trying to stop them. But that doesn't give them the right to play women's sports or go into women's locker rooms because they feel like a woman.

I think the people on this board are sick and tired of our discussion so this is my last post on this thread so it stops moving to the top of the discussion list. Have a nice day. I do appreciate your work on the D3 side of things. Sorry we don't agree on this.
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You and others keep saying I was the one who made it political, I reiterate that I only unloaded after you made a political jab and then replied to my request to keep politics in the Cafe part of the forum in the manner you did by playing dumb. I don't enjoy discussing politics with strangers but I'm also not one to back down.

My final piece on this is that if culturally it was only about the place of trans people in sports, then maybe a good faith conversation could be had. But one only has to look around the country to see the increase in proposed and passed legislation around the country targeting different facets of the right of trans people to exist as they choose and be left alone. I've seen many accounts of trans people being forced out of their livelihoods due to harassment from anti-trans bigots in their community and targeted legislation in their states. And in the current political climate the sports issue does not get to be an isolated thing when it is in fact part of the right wing's attack on all facets of trans people's lives.

I'm not speaking up because I want to see trans women who were athletes pre-transition take the place of women in women's sports, I speak up because this entire conversation is part of a much larger more dangerous attack on a small minority of people who just want to be left alone. I find it insidious, the right wing politicians and their media arm picked trans people as an easy target because they're such a small minority group its impossible for them to stick up for themselves on their own because they get drowned out by the noise. It's classic scapegoating under Rene Girard's definition. I refuse to sit by as marginal communities are scapegoated as we've seen that play out many times in history.
 
https://gophnx.com/lyndsey-fry-worki...-youth-hockey/



Lyndsey Fry’s next steps on building Youth Hockey in the desert.

Supposedly the dormant Coyotes will continue to fund youth hockey, but she has bold plans for a foundation in addition to that.

it’s remarkable what she’s accomplished in the almost ten years of leading the kachinas, with support from the NHL IGF.

edit: I don’t know how to do links on here anymore, lol. I tried. : )
 
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