Gear Grinding 6: I'm So Over This.

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: Gear Grinding 6: I'm So Over This.

How can gas possibly rise 30 cents today after oil dropped 20% in July, Texas announced they were going to increase production, and projections came out two days ago stating winter prices could drop below 2.00?

And conveniently all stations are changing the exact same despite having differing prices of up to ten cents as of yesterday. Relatively it's crazy cheap compared to just ten months ago, but legalized collusion gets annoying when it's so blatant.

The oil price you see on the news is a futures price, not what it presently costs them. Plus, the sudden changes in futures prices creates an artificial demand, so they have to buy more product at the higher price to compensate.

Although if you're in the midwest, looks like there's a refinery problem: https://blog.gasbuddy.com/posts/Gre...nplanned-Refining-Issue/1715-621794-3219.aspx

 

[MissThundercat]

Re: Gear Grinding 6: I'm So Over This.

it's construction season in Michigan. That's not the gear grinder. Gear grinder are the morons who saw the "left/right lane closed" 2 miles back, and chose not to move into the designated lane. No, I will not let you in because you waited until the last possible second to get over.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: Gear Grinding 6: I'm So Over This.

it's construction season in Michigan. That's not the gear grinder. Gear grinder are the morons who saw the "left/right lane closed" 2 miles back, and chose not to move into the designated lane. No, I will not let you in because you waited until the last possible second to get over.

And it's actions like that that are the cause for traffic jams. Therefore, you are grinding my gears. It's not that difficult to create a zipper pattern that once again allows traffic to move freely. Only when the greedy SOB that can't wait 5 more seconds to get to a destination cuts off the zipper pattern do my gears get ground.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: Gear Grinding 6: I'm So Over This.

You know what grinds my gears? People who don't know how to properly drive through rotaries. You stop if and only if a vehicle is entering your quadrant of the circle. You don't always stop. You don't just go because you happen to be turning right immediately and want to cut off traffic in the circle.

After this, and the previous mention of gear grinding, I have lost any respect I once had for drivers from New Jersey.

 

[Twitch Boy]

Re: Gear Grinding 6: I'm So Over This.

You know what grinds my gears? People who don't know how to properly drive through rotaries. You stop if and only if a vehicle is entering your quadrant of the circle. You don't always stop. You don't just go because you happen to be turning right immediately and want to cut off traffic in the circle.

After this, and the previous mention of gear grinding, I have lost any respect I once had for drivers from New Jersey.

Someone needs an introduction to the Yooper Loop.

 

[bigblue_dl]

Re: Gear Grinding 6: I'm So Over This.

it's construction season in Michigan. That's not the gear grinder. Gear grinder are the morons who saw the "left/right lane closed" 2 miles back, and chose not to move into the designated lane. No, I will not let you in because you waited until the last possible second to get over.

Ummm, it is called the zipper merge. Learn it. Use it. In this case, you're the problem.

 

[Spartanforlife4]

The oil price you see on the news is a futures price, not what it presently costs them. Plus, the sudden changes in futures prices creates an artificial demand, so they have to buy more product at the higher price to compensate.

Although if you're in the midwest, looks like there's a refinery problem: https://blog.gasbuddy.com/posts/Gre...nplanned-Refining-Issue/1715-621794-3219.aspx

My post was from August 1st, when oil had been dropping for months and it suddenly jumped 30 cents for no reason other than the calendar page flipped.

This one, while annoying, is at least legitimate.

 

[Twitch Boy]

Re: Gear Grinding 6: I'm So Over This.

it's construction season in Michigan. That's not the gear grinder. Gear grinder are the morons who saw the "left/right lane closed" 2 miles back, and chose not to move into the designated lane. No, I will not let you in because you waited until the last possible second to get over.

Concur with the others. Use the entire lane as normal until it closes - otherwise that space goes unutilized and things get jammed up even worse. Zipper merge, folks - it works.

 

[The Rube]

Re: Gear Grinding 6: I'm So Over This.

Someone needs an introduction to the Yooper Loop, aka The Yooper Looper Piece Of Sh* Abortion Intersection.

Good Lord, no. I can navigate that pretty easily, and I still hate it.

 

[jen]

Re: Gear Grinding 6: I'm So Over This.

The zipper merge is only effective if EVERYONE uses it. I've seen signs in construction areas telling people to use it - something like 'USE FULL LANE' or 'STAY IN YOUR LANE'. Some people might be confused by that - there's no good way to word it on a sign. They need to fit "We're making you stay in this lane until it actually closes and the nice people to your right should let you into their lane, alternating each car". This does NOT excuse dumbasses who swerve out of the exit only lane at the last second, because that's no zipper merge. That's being a *******.

Related, people who do not know or care that it's illegal to cross a solid white/orange line grind my gears. The line is there for a reason.

 

[joecct]

You know what grinds my gears? People who don't know how to properly drive through rotaries. You stop if and only if a vehicle is entering your quadrant of the circle. You don't always stop. You don't just go because you happen to be turning right immediately and want to cut off traffic in the circle.

After this, and the previous mention of gear grinding, I have lost any respect I once had for drivers from New Jersey.

In Maryland the circle had the right of way. New Jersey is the opposite based on their drivers book

Whenever a motorist is in doubt concerning who has the right-of-way in a circle, he/she should exercise extreme caution and remember the basic rule governing any uncontrolled intersection: The vehicle to the left yields the right-of-way to the vehicle approaching from the right.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: Gear Grinding 6: I'm So Over This.

Someone needs an introduction to the Yooper Loop.

Looking it up on Uncyclopedia as well as Google Maps, is one not supposed to go directly from Montezuma Ave westbound to the lift bridge? Or is a U-turn acceptable there? Doesn't seem all that complicated from a bird's eye, although I can see how to would be difficult for some to negotiate.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: Gear Grinding 6: I'm So Over This.

The zipper merge is only effective if EVERYONE uses it. I've seen signs in construction areas telling people to use it - something like 'USE FULL LANE' or 'STAY IN YOUR LANE'. Some people might be confused by that - there's no good way to word it on a sign. They need to fit "We're making you stay in this lane until it actually closes and the nice people to your right should let you into their lane, alternating each car". This does NOT excuse dumbasses who swerve out of the exit only lane at the last second, because that's no zipper merge. That's being a *******.

Related, people who do not know or care that it's illegal to cross a solid white/orange line grind my gears. The line is there for a reason.

Oh, here's my favorite: Turning from Old Liverpool Rd eastbound to Electronics Parkway, there are signs that clearly say "no right turn" and "stay in lane", while there is a merge for westbound traffic split style, creating two lanes. So what do idiots do? They turn right from the former lane into the plaza, instead of going straight through the intersection and turning left later. Grinds my gears, as I always feel like I'm going to get jackknifed.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: Gear Grinding 6: I'm So Over This.

In Maryland the circle had the right of way. New Jersey is the opposite based on their drivers book

In NYS, anyone inside the rotary has the right of way, and there are yield signs when entering the rotary to clearly indicate you must yield to traffic inside the rotary, as filling that up would cause gridlock.

And in your NJ example, that would mean the same thing, given rotaries in countries influenced by the dexterity of Napoleon drive counter-clockwise.

 

[Twitch Boy]

Re: Gear Grinding 6: I'm So Over This.

Looking it up on Uncyclopedia as well as Google Maps, is one not supposed to go directly from Montezuma Ave westbound to the lift bridge? Or is a U-turn acceptable there? Doesn't seem all that complicated from a bird's eye, although I can see how to would be difficult for some to negotiate.

A U-turn there might cause a quantum singularity.

It's all continuous paths. You can turn off WB Montezuma to the lift bridge, go partway around the loop and merge onto US-26/Memorial Drive, or continue fully around the loop and end up on EB Montezuma. Tough part is snap deciding what lane to be in while everyone else around you is just as confused as you are.

 

[The Rube]

Re: Gear Grinding 6: I'm So Over This.

Looking it up on Uncyclopedia as well as Google Maps, is one not supposed to go directly from Montezuma Ave westbound to the lift bridge? Or is a U-turn acceptable there? Doesn't seem all that complicated from a bird's eye, although I can see how to would be difficult for some to negotiate.

As you are coming up to the Loop, if you are in the right lane, you will enter the loop. If you are in the left lane, you have no choice but to cross the bridge to Hancock. There really is no warning, so if you aren't aware of this ahead of time (like my first time there), chances are you're going to end up crossing the bridge. Coming out of the downtown Houghton area, if you are in the right lane, you're crossing the bridge. If you are in the middle lane, you are leaving Houghton. If you are in the left lane, you are heading back into the loop.

Amazingly, they made it 3 lanes (coming out of downtown) because they thought it would make it EASIER to navigate. The running joke is the Yooper Loop was designed to keep out non-Yoopers. I find it amazing that a town with an engineering school could design such an abomination.

Thankfully, you can avoid the loop if you know which side road to take before you get to said loop.

 

[bigblue_dl]

Re: Gear Grinding 6: I'm So Over This.

The zipper merge is only effective if EVERYONE uses it. I've seen signs in construction areas telling people to use it - something like 'USE FULL LANE' or 'STAY IN YOUR LANE'. Some people might be confused by that - there's no good way to word it on a sign. They need to fit "We're making you stay in this lane until it actually closes and the nice people to your right should let you into their lane, alternating each car". This does NOT excuse dumbasses who swerve out of the exit only lane at the last second, because that's no zipper merge. That's being a *******.

Related, people who do not know or care that it's illegal to cross a solid white/orange line grind my gears. The line is there for a reason.

Yes, exactly. Thinking you should zipper merge, when you shouldn't is just is bad as not zipper merging when you should. If there is 1 lane exiting, that is backed up, you cannot skip that line, and cut in at the last minute, and you deserve to get cut off. If there is a lane ending, for whatever reason, use the whole lane, and merge when the lane ends. These driving ****ups are what causes 90% of the ****ty traffic we see.

 

[joecct]

Re: Gear Grinding 6: I'm So Over This.

In NYS, anyone inside the rotary has the right of way, and there are yield signs when entering the rotary to clearly indicate you must yield to traffic inside the rotary, as filling that up would cause gridlock.

And in your NJ example, that would mean the same thing, given rotaries in countries influenced by the dexterity of Napoleon drive counter-clockwise.

I don't think so. For a car approaching the circle, the circle traffic is on the left - which would give the entering car the right of way. For the car in the circle, the approaching car is always to the right, which means that the car in the circle must yield to the entering car.

That said - it's New Jersey. Might makes right.

 

[bigblue_dl]

Re: Gear Grinding 6: I'm So Over This.

Looking it up on Uncyclopedia as well as Google Maps, is one not supposed to go directly from Montezuma Ave westbound to the lift bridge? Or is a U-turn acceptable there? Doesn't seem all that complicated from a bird's eye, although I can see how to would be difficult for some to negotiate.

It isn't that difficult. I don't know why some people think it is hard to figure out.

 

[The Rube]

Re: Gear Grinding 6: I'm So Over This.

It isn't that difficult. I don't know why some people think it is hard to figure out.

As I said, if you have never been through it, and are unaware it's coming, there is no warning until it's too late. That being said, it's still a poorly designed intersection.