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Game of Thrones Season 6: Lions and Wolves and Sand Snakes, oh my!

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St. Clown said:
The first book follows the first season very closely, though there are some differences, of course. You're about to be introduced to a whole slew of characters that never made it into the TV show.
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Fine by me.

The last thing I want to do is spend time reading episodes I've already seen.


I'm hoping for a more fleshed out universe and history and more character depth.

The show has done a great job with all of that, but no movie or show can match a book. Obviously.
 
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Gurtholfin said:
Fine by me.

The last thing I want to do is spend time reading episodes I've already seen.


I'm hoping for a more fleshed out universe and history and more character depth.

The show has done a great job with all of that, but no movie or show can match a book. Obviously.
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Okay. That's exactly what you'll receive, then. After the first book, the seasons and the books start to divert from one another. It's to the point where GRRM said that the show has to give us a different final victor for the GoT than who he's planned for the books.
 
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St. Clown said:
The first book follows the first season very closely, though there are some differences, of course. You're about to be introduced to a whole slew of characters that never made it into the TV show.
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There aren't that many different/new characters in the first book, there are just characters that are more in the background in the show better fleshed out. After you read the book, you can watch season 1 over, and you'll be recognizing secondary and tertiary characters by name, because you'll know them from the book.
 
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There are a lot of characters after book one who didn't make it to tv. I think reading is a totally different experience.
I struggled through book 4, but enjoyed the rest
 
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Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
There are a lot of characters after book one who didn't make it to tv. I think reading is a totally different experience.
I struggled through book 4, but enjoyed the rest
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I gave up on book 4. Something fell apart for me, and I just stopped. Reading around, it looks like that a significant number of people had the same reaction as me. Did book 5 get better?

...I won't even ask about book 6. :D
 
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St. Clown said:
Okay. That's exactly what you'll receive, then. After the first book, the seasons and the books start to divert from one another. It's to the point where GRRM said that the show has to give us a different final victor for the GoT than who he's planned for the books.
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Wait. Where did he say this? (Not that it matters in practicality.)
 
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St. Clown said:
I gave up on book 4. Something fell apart for me, and I just stopped. Reading around, it looks like that a significant number of people had the same reaction as me. Did book 5 get better?

...I won't even ask about book 6. :D
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4 and 5 were...not great. The stuff in Mereen was even more slow and plodding than in the show, we got an extra about 300 pages following Tyrion's journey after leaving Westeros, which is completely different than the show. A whole bunch more Dorne, a whole bunch more Iron Islands. Entire storylines that don't show up in the show, and seem to be inconsequential to the end game. And on, and on.
 
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bronconick said:
Wait. Where did he say this? (Not that it matters in practicality.)
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He was being quoted by the GoT producers (I never have known which one is which) in one of their behind-the-scenes promos for season 6. At this point, I just took them at their word that they quoted him correctly. It makes sense, saying that the way they treated the characters, and had to alter some storylines slightly, have altered their outcome in the show vs. the outcome in the books. Some characters have died in the show that weren't scheduled to die in the books, and their roles affect the final outcome.
 
Gurtholfin said:
Aegon?


:D
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ThatsTheJoke.jpg :)

Welcome to book-reader nerd-dom. Don't listen to people who rag on AFFC or ADWD. There's not as much action but holy smokes do they emphasize the main themes and create new depths.

The characters that people thought Ian McShane and Jim Broadbent would (but didn't) play make for excellent reading, even in very brief appearances.
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
Well, fighting against Targaryens is sort of their thing, so... *shrug*
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It makes me worry that the Aegon storyline will be introduced, and I think it is way too late to introduce that story with 6 episodes left. Won't go into more detail, since that would actually be a book spoiler.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
It makes me worry that the Aegon storyline will be introduced, and I think it is way too late to introduce that story with 6 episodes left. Won't go into more detail, since that would actually be a book spoiler.
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I think we're done with any introducing. The final six episodes are going to be all tying up loose ends and killing people, and that is just peachy. MOAR DEATH PLZ!

We should have a "who lives" contest. List say the 25 most important currently "living" (Jon Snow and the Night King count) characters and pick which ones are still in operational order when the last episode ends. No book learnin' allowed.

I'm a tyro compared to some here, but I'll do it as a multiselect poll if we can agree on a list.

Daenerys Targaryen
Jon Snow / Aegon Targaryen
Tyrion Lannister
Cersei Lannister
Jaime Lannister
Sansa Stark
Arya Stark
Bran Stark
Jorah Mormont
Sandor "The Hound" Clegane*
Gregor "The Mountain" Clegane*
Gendry (uh... Baratheon?)
Samwell Tarly
Theon Greyjoy
Bronn (Jaime's bromance)
Varys (the bald adviser)
Tormund Giantsbane
Brienne of Tarth
Missandei (Dany's slave lady)
Melisandre (the red witch hottie)


I love that "Cleganebowl" is a thing now.
 
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So LOTR is on TV these days more than Shawshank and while I avoid it, the wife is often watching little segments.

It came up as to whether Ned reminds me of Boromir or vice versa as we are also currently watching GoT season 1.

We both agreed that they don't other than the obvious superficial, hey that's Sean Bean.

That's a credit to the actor imo coz they really are played as different characters.


Yeah… it's gonna be a long 18 months in this thread. :p


Love me some Sean Bean btw.
 
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Gurtholfin said:
So LOTR is on TV these days more than Shawshank and while I avoid it, the wife is often watching little segments.

It came up as to whether Ned reminds me of Boromir or vice versa as we are also currently watching GoT season 1.

We both agreed that they don't other than the obvious superficial, hey that's Sean Bean.

That's a credit to the actor imo coz they really are played as different characters.


Yeah… it's gonna be a long 18 months in this thread. :p
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I had no idea they were played by the same actor. Very nice job by Bean.

The next 18 months are going to be awful other than the Cornell national championship.
 
Kepler said:
I think we're done with any introducing. The final six episodes are going to be all tying up loose ends and killing people, and that is just peachy. MOAR DEATH PLZ!

We should have a "who lives" contest. List say the 25 most important currently "living" (Jon Snow and the Night King count) characters and pick which ones are still in operational order when the last episode ends. No book learnin' allowed.

I'm a tyro compared to some here, but I'll do it as a multiselect poll if we can agree on a list.

Daenerys Targaryen
Jon Snow / Aegon Targaryen
Tyrion Lannister
Cersei Lannister
Jaime Lannister
Sansa Stark
Arya Stark
Bran Stark
Jorah Mormont
Sandor "The Hound" Clegane*
Gregor "The Mountain" Clegane*
Gendry (uh... Baratheon?)
Samwell Tarly
Theon Greyjoy
Bronn (Jaime's bromance)
Varys (the bald adviser)
Tormund Giantsbane
Brienne of Tarth
Missandei (Dany's slave lady)
Melisandre (the red witch hottie)


I love that "Cleganebowl" is a thing now.
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Gendry's last name would be Waters if he was recognized as a bastard of Robert. But he never was, so I guess he just doesn't have a surname.
 
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Kepler said:
The next 18 months are going to be awful other than the Cornell national championship.
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Cornell?

That's your program?

I still break out in cold sweat when I think of Cornell and the 2006 Regional.


Single most gut wrenching sporting event that I ever attended that didn't involve my kid's teams.
 
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state of hockey said:
Gendry's last name would be Waters if he was recognized as a bastard of Robert. But he never was, so I guess he just doesn't have a surname.
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I think he'd still be Gendry Waters though. He has a surname, he just has never gone by it before.

Another should have been obvious hint to Jon's mother's identity, all the way back in the first moments of episode 1, was that his name was Jon SNOW. The bastard name follows the homeland of the mother, so that should have told us right away that Jon's mother was from the north. If his mother was some of the other rumored women, he'd have been Jon Sand, or Jon Rivers.
 
bigblue_dl said:
I think he'd still be Gendry Waters though. He has a surname, he just has never gone by it before.

Another should have been obvious hint to Jon's mother's identity, all the way back in the first moments of episode 1, was that his name was Jon SNOW. The bastard name follows the homeland of the mother, so that should have told us right away that Jon's mother was from the north. If his mother was some of the other rumored women, he'd have been Jon Sand, or Jon Rivers.
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I thought it just followed where they were born, which is why Bran thought his name should actually be Jon Sand. Maybe another difference between the books and the show? I have no idea.
 
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