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Game of Thrones Season 6: Lions and Wolves and Sand Snakes, oh my!

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bigblue_dl said:
First, **** the Greyjoys. The fact that we had to waste time on Theon's redemption story bugs me, and that is probably the only part of this episode that does bug me. Theon has had enough chances, and I hope that Euron slits his throat.

As for Gendry, I would think that he would get Storm's End, the ancestral seat of the Baratheon family, and the Durrandons before that. Dragonstone is the ancestral seat of the Targaryens, so it wouldn't make sense for Gendry to have it. That will end up being Aegon and Danerys's vacation love shack.
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I'm fairly confident that the only reason people are surviving at this point is because they have a purpose in getting us to episode 73. It's why Littlefinger died. His purpose was fulfilled. The Vale had to be united again under the Starks and he was the instrument that accomplished that. Like you told me on Friday, they're done with character development. At this point it's about getting to the end.

Theon and Yara have something else to give the plot. Or, this was the last time we saw either of them and season eight starts with a shot of their bodies floating on the open ocean.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Theon and Yara have something else to give the plot. Or, this was the last time we saw either of them and season eight starts with a shot of their bodies floating on the open ocean.
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Hopefully this. Or, we just never see them again, because Theon's arc is complete once he actually takes the action to go save his sister, regardless of what happens. I just really don't want to see any Greyjoy not named Euron again.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
Jaime raped Cersei when they were viewing Joffrey's body. I don't recall what season it was, maybe season 5?
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It wasn't so much a rape as it was a poorly filmed sequence. The producers had a post mortem interview on that scene, I forget where I read it, and they said that they just didn't capture the pages from the book correctly on the screen. They didn't see it as rape before it aired because they knew the source material, but understood why people thought that who haven't read the books - because they got the execution of the scene all wrong.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
Also, I found it very interesting, and quite awesome that Sandor and Gregor stood toe to toe and they were the same height. They make Gregor look so big all the time, but Sandor Clegane is a ****ing huge dude as well.
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I was very surprised by this too.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
First, **** the Greyjoys. The fact that we had to waste time on Theon's redemption story bugs me, and that is probably the only part of this episode that does bug me. Theon has had enough chances, and I hope that Euron slits his throat.
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The only reason to have spent so much screen time on Theon lo these many years is to set up his redemption.

More importantly and pathetically, that scene was supposed to highlight Jon's leadership skills and essential goodness, neither of which are real. Jon is a sniveling adolescent Mary Sue for all the sniveling adolescents who have identified with themes of Personal Honor and Sacrifice and been merrily fed into the meat grinder by men far wiser and more sane than they, in all ages.
 
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Jon bringing up the "You can be a Greyjoy, and a Stark" to Theon is foreshadowing to Jon when he can be a Stark and a Targaryen. That's what that scene was for.
 
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Kepler said:
The only reason to have spent so much screen time on Theon lo these many years is to set up his redemption.

More importantly and pathetically, that scene was supposed to highlight Jon's leadership skills and essential goodness, neither of which are real. Jon is a sniveling adolescent Mary Sue for all the sniveling adolescents who have identified with themes of Personal Honor and Sacrifice and been merrily fed into the meat grinder by men far wiser and more sane than they, in all ages.
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I just assumed he was around to produce a rightful heir to the throne. Since he probably got that job done last night, all that's left is some sort of spectacular death.
 
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SJHovey said:
I just assumed he was around to produce a rightful heir to the throne. Since he probably got that job done last night, all that's left is some sort of spectacular death.
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I'm rooting for an ignominious death. Maybe Brienne falls on him and he's stabbed with his own sword.
 
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bronconick said:
Jon bringing up the "You can be a Greyjoy, and a Stark" to Theon is foreshadowing to Jon when he can be a Stark and a Targaryen. That's what that scene was for.
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That scene was fine, the Greyjoy beach scene was where it was went too far.
 
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What are the odds that we see Little Finger marching against Winterfell next season? After all, they're still recruiting.
 
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St. Clown said:
What are the odds that we see Little Finger marching against Winterfell next season? After all, they're still recruiting.
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They can bring back anybody who wasn't burned. Maybe Sean Bean needs the work.
 
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Kepler said:
They can bring back anybody who wasn't burned. Maybe Sean Bean needs the work.
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The difference being that Ned's all bones now, that's the only way jolly ol' King Joff was allowing him down from his spikes. So it wouldn't look much like him. Assuming no ability to seal coffins like we do today, most or all of the others in the crypt should be well on their way to dust by now. It's not really a dry, arid climate around Winterfell.
 
Gurtholfin said:
I'm starting to think that he most definitely did.

He was clearly conflicted when he watched the battle against his brother.

He wasn't happy about burning the Tarleys.

He expressed how devasted he was about the other kids dying.

He was grim faced when he returned from his audience with Cersei.

Why was he so troubled outside of their cabin door? He had to know they would hook up and so what? Changes nothing and he's been around the block and knows how these things play out.

So why lurk outside their cabin looking all troubled?


There's some possibility of a double agent there...
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The theory I've heard that I find pretty interesting is that he promised Cersei that her unborn child will be Dany's successor, because she can't have kids. Or so he may have thought.

If so, Tyrion is super screwed. Not only is Cersei not going to help, Jon and Dany are giving making a legitimate successor for her a go. And of course, it doesn't really matter anyway because Jon is Aegon Targaryen, fifteen thousandth of his name. It doesn't go through Dany anymore, because it actually never went to her in the first place.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
Also, I found it very interesting, and quite awesome that Sandor and Gregor stood toe to toe and they were the same height. They make Gregor look so big all the time, but Sandor Clegane is a ****ing huge dude as well.
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And Brienne walking beside Sandor was the same height.

That scene bothered me a bit. They've changed actors for The Mountain twice now, and I seem to remember from the first season that he was quite a bit bigger than The Hound. Like another half a foot or more. They could have at least had the Mountain actor stand on a box or something when they shot that. It ruined the massiveness, the impressiveness they've been building for him.
 
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Picked up book one last night.

First two chapters are also the start of the show.

Here goes...
 
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Gurtholfin said:
Picked up book one last night.

First two chapters are also the start of the show.

Here goes...
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The first book follows the first season very closely, though there are some differences, of course. You're about to be introduced to a whole slew of characters that never made it into the TV show.
 
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