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Frozen Four Oddities.

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Some notes on the Frozen Four

Since 1981, when the tournament expanded to 8 teams (then to 12, and now 16), there have been 5 (counting this year), All-West Frozen Fours. The last was in 2005 when DU, UND, CC and UMn were all in Columbus, which is the only time one conference (WCHA) had all the representatives in the FF.

There has never been an All-East FF.

There have been 10 3/1 splits - 6 in favor of the West, 4 in favor for the East. Since 1991, the 1 has won.

All time champions by State:
Michigan: 14+5
Massachusetts: 10
Colorado: 9
North Dakota: 7
Wisconsin: 5+1
Minnesota: 5
New York: 4 (Homer pick)
Maine: 2
Ohio: 1

Cheeseheads, don't feel so down -- at D-III, your state has 9 championships. Minnesota only has 1.

Fixed! Joe you were shy a few titles.
 
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This year's Frozen Four features teams from geographically contiguous states: ND --> Minnesota --> Michigan --> Indiana

PS how is it that two teams east of the Mississippi River make this an 'all west' frozen four? Are we back in 1805 again when Indiana was part of the Northwest Territory?
Generally speaking, West vs East in College hockey has been CCHA/WCHA (+Air Force and UAH) = West, all others = East

If you use the Mississippi as the dividing line, there's only a total of 12 "Western" teams. Adding the CCHA in at least gets to 25, less than 1/2 of all D1 teams. To get a 50/50 breakdown, the current dividing line would be between Canisius and RIT, which would put Niagara, Robert Morris, Mercyhurst and Canisius as "West" teams. Given where this line would be, it looks like PSU will actually be the mid-point once they get going.
 
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Cheeseheads, don't feel so down -- at D-III, your state has 9 championships. Minnesota only has 1.
Since you brought it up, if you want to include all divisions and both genders, Minnesota leads Wisconsin 32-22 (The breakdown for Minnesota is this-Men's: D1-5, D2-6, D3-1, NAIA-12; Women's: NCAA D1-7, AWCHA D1-1)
 
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If you use the Mississippi as the divider, UND is the only Western team in the Frozen Four. So you Easterners can stop whining now. ;)
 
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Since you brought it up, if you want to include all divisions and both genders, Minnesota leads Wisconsin 32-22 (The breakdown for Minnesota is this-Men's: D1-5, D2-6, D3-1, NAIA-12; Women's: NCAA D1-7, AWCHA D1-1)

You forgot the NJCAA - 7
 
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You forgot the NJCAA - 7

Huh, never thought about it, but you're right. so...39-22 :p

Also, if the Mississippi River is the divider there are only 9 Western D1 hockey schools: the Colorado schools, the Alaska schools, North Dakota, Bemidji, Mankato, and St. Cloud (the Concrete Center is on the West bank of the river. Mariucci is on the East bank campus of Minnesota.)
 
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Huh, never thought about it, but you're right. so...39-22 :p

Also, if the Mississippi River is the divider there are only 9 Western D1 hockey schools: the Colorado schools, the Alaska schools, North Dakota, Bemidji, Mankato, and St. Cloud (the Concrete Center is on the West bank of the river. Mariucci is on the East bank campus of Minnesota.)

If the Mississippi River is the divider, Bemidji's Hockey Arena is both East and West of the river. Campus itself is West.
 
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Not sure these would constitute "oddities" but here are a few fun facts about the University of Notre Dame making only its second appearance in the Frozen Four:

1. The actual name of the school is "University of Notre Dame du Lac" (University of Our Lady of the Lake).

2. The school is located just north of South Bend, Indiana so named as the city sits at the "south bend" of the St. Joseph's River.

3. Contrary to popular belief, the University of Notre Dame is NOT a Jesuit university. The school was founded by the Congregation of the Holy Cross. Further, its sister school in Massachusetts is NOT the College of the Holy Cross as this is a Jesuit school. No, Notre Dame's sister school in Massachusetts is Stonehill College which is only one of four schools that is still playing hockey at the designated Division II level.

4. Despite its nickname, "the Fighting Irish", the university has essentially French-Canadian roots. The word Irish was at one time synonymous with Catholicism and thus Notre Dame's Catholic athletes became known as the "Fighting Irish". Ironically, it is Boston College and not Notre Dame that has the most significant Irish connections. Boston College was founded by Irish Catholics in the Boston area so that young men (and eventually women) of Irish-Catholic heritage could find instruction at the university level as for many years prior to its founding Irish Catholics were routinely denied entry to Harvard University.

...and speaking of Boston College and Holy Cross they played a football game on November 28, 1942. Final score was 55-12 in favor of the Crusaders of Holy Cross. Turns out the loss caused the cancellation of a victory party planned by Boston College at a local club known as the Cocoanut Grove. That same night the Cocoanut (correct spelling) Grove caught fire killing close to 500 people. So, legend has it that the Holy Cross football team saved Boston College's football team from almost certain demise. Of course if Boston College had won the game that would have changed the course of time and that fire may never have occurred, but it is an interesting correlation nonetheless.
 
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Re: Frozen Four Oddities.

Not sure these would constitute "oddities" but here are a few fun facts about the University of Notre Dame making only its second appearance in the Frozen Four:

1. The actual name of the school is "University of Notre Dame du Lac" (University of Our Lady of the Lake).

2. The school is located just north of South Bend, Indiana so named as the city sits at the "south bend" of the St. Joseph's River.

3. Contrary to popular belief, the University of Notre Dame is NOT a Jesuit university. The school was founded by the Congregation of the Holy Cross. Further, its sister school in Massachusetts is NOT the College of the Holy Cross as this is a Jesuit school. No, Notre Dame's sister school in Massachusetts is Stonehill College which is only one of four schools that is still playing hockey at the designated Division II level.

4. Despite its nickname, "the Fighting Irish", the university has essentially French-Canadian roots. The word Irish was at one time synonymous with Catholicism and thus Notre Dame's Catholic athletes became known as the "Fighting Irish". Ironically, it is Boston College and not Notre Dame that has the most significant Irish connections. Boston College was founded by Irish Catholics in the Boston area so that young men (and eventually women) of Irish-Catholic heritage could find instruction at the university level as for many years prior to its founding Irish Catholics were routinely denied entry to Harvard University.

...and speaking of Boston College and Holy Cross they played a football game on November 28, 1942. Final score was 55-12 in favor of the Crusaders of Holy Cross. Turns out the loss caused the cancellation of a victory party planned by Boston College at a local club known as the Cocoanut Grove. That same night the Cocoanut (correct spelling) Grove caught fire killing close to 500 people. So, legend has it that the Holy Cross football team saved Boston College's football team from almost certain demise. Of course if Boston College had won the game that would have changed the course of time and that fire may never have occurred, but it is an interesting correlation nonetheless.

Great post. I always wondered where the name South Bend came from and how many schools still played at the DII level.
 
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Great post. I always wondered where the name South Bend came from and how many schools still played at the DII level.

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...and speaking of Boston College and Holy Cross they played a football game on November 28, 1942. Final score was 55-12 in favor of the Crusaders of Holy Cross. Turns out the loss caused the cancellation of a victory party planned by Boston College at a local club known as the Cocoanut Grove. That same night the Cocoanut (correct spelling) Grove caught fire killing close to 500 people. So, legend has it that the Holy Cross football team saved Boston College's football team from almost certain demise. Of course if Boston College had won the game that would have changed the course of time and that fire may never have occurred, but it is an interesting correlation nonetheless.

And know you know...the rest of the story. (I actually did hear that on Paul Harvey.)
 
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