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Frayed Ends: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 3.0

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I don't think you'll find many friends of fractional reserve banking here, among conservatives or liberals. Getting rid of it may actually be one of the few (only?) things we can all agree on.


I highly doubt it, especially if you had any idea of the consequences.

Fractional reserve banking has probably been one of the very most important innovations driving a higher standard of living than anything else I can think of. The problem is more (a) at what level are reserves set, and (b) are people reporting their reserves honestly.

As I understand it, you are right in a technical sense that fractional reserve banking did originate through fraudulent behavior....though not by bankers, but by goldsmiths. People who owned some wealth in gold who also wanted to keep it safe would put it in a vault, and goldsmiths had the best vaults. It was centuries before banks developed.

The goldsmiths would then use the gold in their vaults to collateralize loans. At the beginning, they only used their own gold, not the gold stored with them by other people. After awhile, they noticed that among all the people storing gold with them, a certain additional amount was always on hand, and just like in The Producers, they started using other people's gold to collateralize loans as well. Thus began what eventually developed into fractional reserve banking.

Let's say reserves are at 15%. Depending upon the velocity of money, an injection of a new $10,000 into the banking system could lead to a total of $85,000 in circulation (Source: Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis publication in my archives). That gives a lot of auto workers jobs, a lot of construction workers jobs, a lot of businesses the line of credit they need to smooth out cash flow when revenues come in fits and starts.

It's hard to imagine any person who cares about the well-being of others to advocate the abolition of fractional-reserve banking. Reform, sure. Abolish? No way.
 
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This particular negotiation is news to me. The general topic has been gaining traction and getting some airing in independent media.

The only way to do this is for everybody to adopt strict rules all at once, otherwise you're just playing whack-a-mole. It would be great if all the nations simultaneously signed on to what is the equivalent of extradition. Even better would be the arguments against it.
 
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I hope they do this just to **** over all the companies that inverted. Go **** yourselves for turning your back on your country.
 
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No way this passes regulatory scrutiny. They would have something like 1/3 of global beer sales and something like 70%+ in the US.

Might as well fold up the justice department if they allow it.
 
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If they wouldn't let 3M buy Avery Dennison, there is no way this should go through.
 
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They also rumoured they weren't going to allow TWC/Comcast; Comcast dropped the deal when those came out.

Given that it's in a "sin" market that Miller-Coors and InBev are looking to merge, something tells me that the regulators won't be so quick to squash it. A few of the board members might even applaud it as it could likely lead to higher prices and therefore slightly lower quantities demanded. It's like the government passing a sin tax without having to actually pass a sin tax to help curb consumption.
 
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Given that it's in a "sin" market that Miller-Coors and InBev are looking to merge, something tells me that the regulators won't be so quick to squash it. A few of the board members might even applaud it as it could likely lead to higher prices and therefore slightly lower quantities demanded. It's like the government passing a sin tax without having to actually pass a sin tax to help curb consumption.

Funny thing is, some states (such as NY) are really pushing the local craft brew angle.
 
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Given that it's in a "sin" market that Miller-Coors and InBev are looking to merge, something tells me that the regulators won't be so quick to squash it. A few of the board members might even applaud it as it could likely lead to higher prices and therefore slightly lower quantities demanded. It's like the government passing a sin tax without having to actually pass a sin tax to help curb consumption.

I'm not sure I buy that. I do know that there are two things (maybe rumors) that have come about over this deal:
1. MillerCoors would likely need to spin off Coors (or something like that)
2. If the deal falls through, ABI owes SABMiller $3 billion
 
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I'm not sure I buy that. I do know that there are two things (maybe rumors) that have come about over this deal:
1. MillerCoors would likely need to spin off Coors (or something like that)
2. If the deal falls through, ABI owes SABMiller $3 billion

Another report I read said Miller would be the spinoff. Regardless, I think they have a plan for US regulators. Nobody seems to be know how the EU's competition people operate as they've sunk many more deals than their counterparts here have.
 
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Another report I read said Miller would be the spinoff. Regardless, I think they have a plan for US regulators. Nobody seems to be know how the EU's competition people operate as they've sunk many more deals than their counterparts here have.

Could be. I might have had it backwards. Either way, brewers, distillers, and distributors have an incredibly complex world. I thought I remember reading that some of these companies have rights to the distribution in some countries but they are independent in others and some are even more complex than that. It's a tangled web.
 
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From the NYT:

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/10/13/world/europe/ap-eu-beer-merger-.html

The global market share of AB InBev and SABMiller together would be about 31 percent, dwarfing the 9 percent of Heineken, the next closest competitor.

Regulators could force the companies to sell some brands.

"The problem jurisdictions will be the U.S. and China," Gordon said. "The Miller-Coors venture in the U.S. probably will be unwound, and some assets will be divested in China."

The Miller line of beers in the U.S. is parked in a joint venture with Molson Coors in which SABMiller owns a 58 percent stake. SABMiller's joint venture in China, CR Snow, with China Resources Enterprise is also tipped to go.

Buried at the end was this nugget, which I found very interesting:
Following Tuesday's announcement, Fitch reiterated that it may downgrade its credit rating on AB InBev.

Lombardi warned about the burden of the combined companies' $125 billion in debt, given the tough market conditions.

The deal is "great" in terms of its scope for savings, he said, but he is "mindful of the challenges big brewers face."
 
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