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Frayed Ends: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 3.0

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Also, to your point that competition doesn't help, when Google started rolling out Google fiber, overnight comcast cut prices and increased bandwidth to their customers.

TWC did the same thing in the Charlotte NC market. Our market here is fairly competitive, too, because we have either TWC or FiOS.
 
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Also, to your point that competition doesn't help, when Google started rolling out Google fiber, overnight comcast cut prices and increased bandwidth to their customers.
Google and Comcast are both huge monolithic companies though, they can afford things like that. Not to argue in Comcasts favor since they were probably sandbagging on upgrades or roll outs. While altering prices is quite easy, altering services is a big deal that was likely being worked on for months/years before Google ever started building. Plenty of hidden costs that the consumer doesn't have any clue about.

We just completed changing to an all digital tv system recently and that was a monstrously expensive task in terms of labor and equipment. But that had to be done before we could even consider upgrading our internet speeds and expect them to actually work. (working around analog signal sucks)

If google rolled into a town that only had a little mom and pop company, they'd immediately be put out of business if they had to try and match prices. I have to deal with one small company and they flip right out if they lose one tiny filter because they have no room to lose a single dollar.
I think foxton makes a fair point. But when I say break them up, I mean separate them in terms of content producers and content deliverers.

I don't like that comcast owns NBC and Universal among others. They shouldn't own studios and the cables that deliver it to our television. They just shouldn't.

Then again, we all survived Ma Bell breaking up. I think it's time to give companies like Google and municipalities incentives to come into new areas.
That suggestion of a break up would be a benefit for the consumer. Not much but keeping content producers/providers from being the same thing keeps the playing field a little fairer. Was a big reason why Comcast wasn't allowed to get TWC. Wayy too much of the market along with controlling the actual content.

Well there are only so many services that can be put in one area due to space limitations. Aerial systems need clearances on the pole between themselves, other utilities, power, the road. If you have low poles in your city then you can maybe get one line on there before the others have to try being underground. Then have to deal with digging to homes/expensive roadway bores or pay for each attachment if they go back to aerial to get to houses. Many places struggle to deal with 1-2 services, let alone if more are allowed to try and move in.
 
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Socialist economics isn't any better in terms of concept vs. actual execution.

Socialist economics is about four standard deviations off the American economic spectrum. Our choices have been between the left of FDR, the center of Eisenhower-Kennedy, the right of Clinton-Obama, and the far right of Reagan-Bush. The far right has been a disaster. We should oscillate between the left and the right, and leave the far fringes alone.
 
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Socialist economics isn't any better in terms of concept vs. actual execution. But what do the entitled baby boomers care, so long as their kick-the-can habit works?

Compare Wisconsin and Minnesota and get back to me. They're both pretty identical across the board economically. The only difference is who's running the show right now.
 
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Compare Wisconsin and Minnesota and get back to me. They're both pretty identical across the board economically. The only difference is who's running the show right now.

As discussed here, Minnesota's economic management has been stellar and run by the local DFL party for decades. The question is: can other government's match the performance? I think the answer varies. Do I trust mid sized northern states to match it...pretty much. The feds a bit less as there is little oversight. And southern states (particularly those with little respect for government) much less. In the end, I think Oregon should match Minnesota's governance...the feds should have a dem government with heavy GOP oversight. In southern states...maybe a bit tighter approach is best as the quality of the product is not tremendous. Gut says.
 
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Fair enough, but I still think you need some counterbalance from the right so you don't let liberal policies go too far and get themselves in trouble.
 
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So there are a number of us that consider ourselves social liberals and fiscally moderate to conservative. Here is an article that says that's somewhere between misguided and ineffective. I don't know if I agree across the board (esp in terms of free trade agreements), but its an interesting article nonetheless.

Here are 7 things people who say they’re ‘fiscally conservative but socially liberal’ don’t understand.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/05/her...rvative-but-socially-liberal-dont-understand/
 
we DID spend all of our working years paying into it ...

Conveniently ignoring the fact that you willfully failed to pay enough into it your entire working lives by lowering taxes without concurrently cutting spending...
 
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Here are 7 things people who say they’re ‘fiscally conservative but socially liberal’ don’t understand.

I'd say that the author has no clue whatsoever when it comes to describing what fiscal conservatives actually do believe, it's more like she invented some bizarre caricature to allow herself to rant about things that annoy her but no one actually believes what she says they do.
 
Re: Frayed Ends: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 3.0

So there are a number of us that consider ourselves social liberals and fiscally moderate to conservative. Here is an article that says that's somewhere between misguided and ineffective. I don't know if I agree across the board (esp in terms of free trade agreements), but its an interesting article nonetheless.

Here are 7 things people who say they’re ‘fiscally conservative but socially liberal’ don’t understand.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/05/her...rvative-but-socially-liberal-dont-understand/

That might be the dumbest article I've ever read.
 
Re: Frayed Ends: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 3.0

I'd say that the author has no clue whatsoever when it comes to describing what fiscal conservatives actually do believe, it's more like she invented some bizarre caricature to allow herself to rant about things that annoy her but no one actually believes what she says they do.


So, it sorta reminded you of yourself? :D
 
Re: Frayed Ends: Business, Economics, and Tax Policy 3.0

"Social liberal / economic conservative" is a phase young males pass through on their way to either being full grown liberals or full grown conservatives.

Young knucks haven't acquired the full scope of social prejudices yet; young male liberals don't yet have any responsibilities and see the world as atomic units of Robinson Crusoe economic actors.

Both conditions are quickly remedied by Life.
 
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I'd say that the author has no clue whatsoever when it comes to describing what fiscal conservatives actually do believe, it's more like she invented some bizarre caricature to allow herself to rant about things that annoy her but no one actually believes what she says they do.

Trying to put my finger on what seemed off...and that's it. There seems to be a mischaracterization of what fiscally conservative means there.
 
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