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Forbes Most Valuable College Football Teams

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Shirtless Guy said:
College Football's Most Valuable Teams according to Forbes

School (Million)
1) Texas ($119)
2) Notre Dame ($108)
3) Penn State ($99)
4) Nebraska ($93)
5) Alabama ($92)
6) Florida ($88)
7) Louisiana State ($86)
8) Ohio State ($85)
9) Georgia ($84)
10) Oklahoma ($83)
11) Michigan ($81)
12) South Carolina ($80)
13) Tennessee ($78)
14) Auburn ($70)
15) Southern California ($68)
16) Michigan State ($57)
17) Arkansas ($56)
18) Texas A&M ($52)
19) Wisconsin ($48)
20) Oklahoma State ($47)

Thoughts?
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For 18/20 teams they have entirely publicly funded facilities. Public schools are definitely going to be worth more because they have less debt (if any whatsoever), therefore their costs will be down and profits up. I'd like to see the actual formula and sheer data because ticket sales are undoubtedly high in the stadiums of the publics, with a good amount of them seating 70k+.
 
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Shirtless Guy said:
College Football's Most Valuable Teams according to Forbes

School (Million)
1) Texas ($119)
2) Notre Dame ($108)
3) Penn State ($99)
4) Nebraska ($93)
5) Alabama ($92)
6) Florida ($88)
7) Louisiana State ($86)
8) Ohio State ($85)
9) Georgia ($84)
10) Oklahoma ($83)
11) Michigan ($81)
12) South Carolina ($80)
13) Tennessee ($78)
14) Auburn ($70)
15) Southern California ($68)
16) Michigan State ($57)
17) Arkansas ($56)
18) Texas A&M ($52)
19) Wisconsin ($48)
20) Oklahoma State ($47)

Thoughts?
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I know how big football is in the Lone Star State but I'm still surprised to see Texas above Penn State and Notre Dame. I would have though the top 3 to be in no particular order Penn State, Michigan, and Notre Dame. Seeing South Carolina, Arkansas, and Michigan State on there when Miami, Florida State, and Colorado aren't is also really surprising to me.

And I would have thought the dollar value of the entire list would be around 5X what's listed, that kinda surprised me.
 
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gregg729 said:
I would have though the top 3 to be in no particular order Penn State, Michigan, and Notre Dame. Seeing South Carolina, Arkansas, and Michigan State on there when Miami, Florida State, and Colorado aren't is also really surprising to me.
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Colorado? really? Colorado is not a football school at all - in fact, it's not a sports school at all; it's a hippie school (hence "Planet Boulder") with lots of outdoor activities. Outside of their title run in the early 90's, they haven't done jack in years; their stadium only seats 50-60,000 and they rarely fill it to the brim.

And Texas being ahead of Penn State is a no-brainer. I'm more surprised Penn State's that high, I would've had em top 10 for sure, but not top 5. I would've though the Top 5 would've been Texas, Notre Dame, Michigan, Bama, and Nebraska.
 
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gregg729 said:
I know how big football is in the Lone Star State but I'm still surprised to see Texas above Penn State and Notre Dame. I would have though the top 3 to be in no particular order Penn State, Michigan, and Notre Dame. Seeing South Carolina, Arkansas, and Michigan State on there when Miami, Florida State, and Colorado aren't is also really surprising to me.

And I would have thought the dollar value of the entire list would be around 5X what's listed, that kinda surprised me.
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In Miami's hey day, they had trouble selling out the Orange Bowl. The allure of the school has always been South Beach and the Outlaw attitude of the program, not sold out stadiums and a state that lives and dies on every Hurricane game. Even during this 9-3 reival, every Miami game I saw had large blocks of seats in the Upper Deck of Pro Player empty.

And Arky, So Carolina, and Michigan State all pack 75-80,000 seaters on a regular basis. That alone puts them in the Top 20 programs for game day revenue.
 
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BoomGoestheDynamite said:
In Miami's hey day, they had trouble selling out the Orange Bowl. The allure of the school has always been South Beach and the Outlaw attitude of the program, not sold out stadiums and a state that lives and dies on every Hurricane game. Even during this 9-3 reival, every Miami game I saw had large blocks of seats in the Upper Deck of Pro Player empty.

And Arky, So Carolina, and Michigan State all pack 75-80,000 seaters on a regular basis. That alone puts them in the Top 20 programs for game day revenue.
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Well I never knew that about the Canes, but I can't say I'm unhappy for learning it. :)

unofan said:
Colorado? really? Colorado is not a football school at all - in fact, it's not a sports school at all; it's a hippie school (hence "Planet Boulder") with lots of outdoor activities. Outside of their title run in the early 90's, they haven't done jack in years; their stadium only seats 50-60,000 and they rarely fill it to the brim.

And Texas being ahead of Penn State is a no-brainer. I'm more surprised Penn State's that high, I would've had em top 10 for sure, but not top 5. I would've though the Top 5 would've been Texas, Notre Dame, Michigan, Bama, and Nebraska.
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I have a couple friends in Boulder who make it out to be a big football school - but I guess that discrepancy can be explained by the fact that they're just big football fans.

Texas being ahead of Penn State is certainly not a no-brainer. Penn State's largest or second largest stadium in the nation is about 25% bigger than the Longhorns. Penn State's alumni association is the largest in the country and would fill Texas' stadium almost twice over, and football is one of its main focal points. Until Mack brought Texas up to the top echelon 7 or 8 years ago they had two decades of mediocrity. Joe Pa's a legend, Mack's got a title.

Not to slam Texas, they're my favorite Big 12 team - but it's very far from a no-brainer.
 
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I think the reason Forbes was keeping Gopher Nation off this list was the uncertainty around if Coach Brew would stay at the U. I think it would be fair for Forbes to reconsider now that the word is Maturi is going to give him an extension.

The Gopher Nation will live on.
 
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gregg729 said:
Texas being ahead of Penn State is certainly not a no-brainer. Penn State's largest or second largest stadium in the nation is about 25% bigger than the Longhorns. Penn State's alumni association is the largest in the country and would fill Texas' stadium almost twice over, and football is one of its main focal points. Until Mack brought Texas up to the top echelon 7 or 8 years ago they had two decades of mediocrity. Joe Pa's a legend, Mack's got a title.

Not to slam Texas, they're my favorite Big 12 team - but it's very far from a no-brainer.
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Having lived in Ft. Worth for 3 years and central NY for 5 (not to mention having an uncle who lives in State College, PA and has breakfast with JoePa occasionally), it does seem like a no-brainer to me. The reason? There are 24 million Texans, 80% of whom are crazy about football. There are only 12 million in PA, and there's not nearly the same fervor among the general population that there is in Texas. It has nothing to do with stadium sizes or alumni association sizes - only a pretty modest percentage of the respective fan bases actually has any affiliation with the school or attends the games.
 
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Need to look at the formula used...from the article:

That's because the Texas Athletic Department has built a brand that would make most National Football League team owners blush. Of the $82 million generated by the team last season, $30 million came from donations by alumni and fans to get in line for season tickets. Another $33 million came from ticket sales to seven home games at the newly expanded Darrell K. Royal-Texas Memorial Stadium, which now fits 101,000 fans. Sponsorship agreements with Coca-Cola and PepsiCo's Gatorade fed the team another $842,000. Nike paid $1 million to adorn Longhorns jerseys with its swoosh logo.


So, $30mm from donations to get in line for season tickets...and another $33 for the tickets themselves...yeah, that could make a difference if the next school doesn't have the same demand...even if they fill the stadium it doesn't mean people would pay $30mm for the opportunity.
 
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gregg729 said:
I know how big football is in the Lone Star State but I'm still surprised to see Texas above Penn State and Notre Dame.
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Based on my experiences in the south, I'd have guessed 18 of the top 20 would be confederate, with only Michigan and JoPa hailing from the saner reaches. There is really no way to overstate how much football is valued among our southern brethren.
 
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gregg729 said:
I have a couple friends in Boulder who make it out to be a big football school - but I guess that discrepancy can be explained by the fact that they're just big football fans.
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Colorado (the state) is a football state...for the Broncos. The Broncos are to the Rocky Mountains what the Red Sox are to New England. My brother's lived in Boulder, Boise, and now Salt Lake, and all of em cover the Broncos extensively. The Avs, Nuggets, and Rockies are all playing for #2, and U of Colorado sports come in well behind those (their basketball team's been 12th in the Big XII for years, and no one really cares).

The problem is with the mountains right there, there's too much else to do. You get too many outdoor granola types and then the hippies and tree huggers, and while they may enjoy going to a football game or two, it's not a "must do" event when they could be skiing, hiking, smoking pot, riding a bike, etc.
 
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BoomGoestheDynamite said:
In Miami's hey day, they had trouble selling out the Orange Bowl. The allure of the school has always been South Beach and the Outlaw attitude of the program, not sold out stadiums and a state that lives and dies on every Hurricane game. Even during this 9-3 reival, every Miami game I saw had large blocks of seats in the Upper Deck of Pro Player empty.

And Arky, So Carolina, and Michigan State all pack 75-80,000 seaters on a regular basis. That alone puts them in the Top 20 programs for game day revenue.
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Yah, I remember when the Canes were here in Tempe to play Ohio State for the national title. You hardly saw a Canes fan anywhere near the stadium. Lousy support.
 
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Bob Gray said:
Yah, I remember when the Canes were here in Tempe to play Ohio State for the national title. You hardly saw a Canes fan anywhere near the stadium. Lousy support.
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The reason the big ten travels well for bowl games is to get the hell out of the midwest winter for a few days ;) Why go to Arizona to watch the Canes play a game when you can watch at home and still be in a warm place like Flordia ;)
 
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