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Dump Term 2, 1.01: Sleep Now in the Fire

As much as Elmo is a shit sandwich, if he gets us to transfer the entire military and social welfare budget to space I am for it.

Our only hope it to get FTL and get away from Dump's flaccid fucks. Columbus was a POS, too. We could be outta here by 2050. It's worth 7B deaths. Sod the proles.
Haven't you seen Elysium?

It's the people like Musk and Dump who gets to live in clean, luxurious outer space, while the rest of us are stuck down here fighting over clumps of dirt.
 

I hate this timeline...
 
Haven't you seen Elysium?

It's the people like Musk and Dump who gets to live in clean, luxurious outer space, while the rest of us are stuck down here fighting over clumps of dirt.
Right. I'm saying I'm ok with that. It pushes the species throughout the galaxy.
 
The media and the Democrats are just a bunch of chickens with their heads cut off right now. They have no idea how to cover this, and no idea what to do.

Soon there will only be state media, and no Democrats.
 
And what makes you think Musk or anyone is even close to getting us there?
Musk knows nothing. But take all the money we spend on tanks and (checks notes) medicine and throw it into aerospace Somebody there will.

We have been stuck on one planet with these monkeys for all of history. That's like being stuck forever in high school. Making the universe available means we can begin to create planets with admission requirements. Leave the Right to squabble about their profits and their gods on their derp worlds. Our species has a universe to imbue with culture and meaning.
 
Right. I'm saying I'm ok with that. It pushes the species throughout the galaxy.
What is the intrinsic value of going to space over the potential of complete subjugation and/or tossing them aside to fend for themselves while the rich and well-connected go on space as ventures and live in luxury?
 
Musk knows nothing. But take all the money we spend on tanks and (checks notes) medicine and throw it into aerospace Somebody there will.

We have been stuck on one planet with these monkeys for all of history. That's like being stuck forever in high school. Making the universe available means we can begin to create planets with admission requirements. Leave the Right to squabble about their profits and their gods on their derp worlds. Our species has a universe to imbue with culture and meaning.
First of all...that isn't happening. The Pentagon and the military will get everything they want and more. What is cut from medicine is going into the Oligarchs pockets.

Second, if they knew how to do that, they would have done it already. Mars is like an 8 month journey at current speed colonizing it would take decades. We arent even in a position to colonize the Moon, which would need to be a first step. Then you would need way stations along the way, ways to communicate that wont be delayed, methods to terraform in a climate that we have very little fundamental understanding of. And if anything goes wrong, you are basically abandoning people to die there.

Third, FTL travel is not happening in our lifetime if ever. You want travel across the cosmos you will need either fundamental understanding of how to violate Relativity (which would upend all of Physics so...) or you better hope a wormhole makes itself known and viable.

The best thing that could happen to space travel IMHO is if Musk and Bezos both blow up the next time they take one of their joyrides.
 
"Palastinians, regardless of where they are, pose a security threat."

*glares in the direction of Dearborn, MI*

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What is the intrinsic value of going to space over the potential of complete subjugation and/or tossing them aside to fend for themselves while the rich and well-connected go on space as ventures and live in luxury?
For them: it's just the next step in their idiot adolescent space opera fantasy. These are grown ass men frozen into 11-year old boy mental and emotional states. Space is cool. (Narrator: these dipshits aside, space actually is cool.) They think FINALLY THIS WILL GET THEM LAID!

For us: fleeing.

Short of genociding the derps, which I think we can agree is not a great way to advance humanity, the only way to be rid of them is to fragment and go to worlds where they are not permitted. That is the next phase of humanity. Leave the sociopaths to kill themselves on their feudal-theocratic sewer planets.

Yes, most of us will die, but what were you really accomplishing anyway? This way, we can develop a human future that does not involve the apes who failed to evolve.
 
Right. I'm saying I'm ok with that. It pushes the species throughout the galaxy.
We aren't colonizing mars for another century. We can't even live under water for month on end without substantial training and only in limited numbers.

Instead you think we're going to live on a planet that's freezing, is inhospitable to life, and gets a fraction of the sunlight? Nah, we're way, way way way off from that.

The energy needed survive there would be astronomical to build the infrastructure and just as much to sustain. We're much, much better off fixing earth.
 
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