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There are a couple of exceptions to the rule due to a grandfather clause for teams that existed before the Divisions went into effect in 1971. The Wikipedia page for the D3 classification (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_III_(NCAA)#Division_III_schools_with_Division_I_programs) has the full list. There was a move a few years back to eliminate those exceptions, but the motion was amended to basically leave things as-was.
In those grandfathered exception cases, I do not know if an athlete on one of those teams is or is not allowed to play another sport for their school.
As I understand it, the general rule is that D3 schools cannot offer athletic scholarships even for athletes whose team plays up to a higher level (D1 or D2).
There are a couple of exceptions to the rule due to a grandfather clause for teams that existed before the Divisions went into effect in 1971. The Wikipedia page for the D3 classification (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_III_(NCAA)#Division_III_schools_with_Division_I_programs) has the full list. There was a move a few years back to eliminate those exceptions, but the motion was amended to basically leave things as-was.
In those grandfathered exception cases, I do not know if an athlete on one of those teams is or is not allowed to play another sport for their school.
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Yea i was thinking the other way, like a D2 school playing down in hockey to D3 but maybe other sports were still D2 (don't know if this is even possible).. Could a player get D2 money in a D2 sport and still play in D3 hockey, again not knowing if this scenario is even possible.
Yea i was thinking the other way, like a D2 school playing down in hockey to D3 but maybe other sports were still D2 (don't know if this is even possible).. Could a player get D2 money in a D2 sport and still play in D3 hockey, again not knowing if this scenario is even possible.
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I don't think it's possible. The general rule is that mixing of D1 or D2 teams is not permitted at a D3 school because it creates an unfair advantage. SLU, Clarkson and Union are the only D3 schools that are allowed to mix D1 hockey with D3 athletics on the women's side. I understand those schools grandfathered in under old rules with Colorado College and a couple others on the men's side. The four D2 schools that play D3 hockey on the women's side during the regular season cannot compete for the D3 title.
I don't think it's possible. The general rule is that mixing of D1 or D2 teams is not permitted at a D3 school because it creates an unfair advantage. SLU, Clarkson and Union are the only D3 schools that are allowed to mix D1 hockey with D3 athletics on the women's side. I understand those schools grandfathered in under old rules with Colorado College and a couple others on the men's side. The four D2 schools that play D3 hockey on the women's side during the regular season cannot compete for the D3 title.
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Ralph Baer
Let's Go 'Tute!
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A student/athlete receiving scholarshiponey for one sport counts against the total scholarships for that sport. I think that they also can split a scholarship 50/50 between two D1 sports. They also can play
any DIII sport they want at a school with a D1 hockey program but otherwise DIII, like my alma mater - Clarkson. I think all of our golf team was made up of hockey players.
A student/athlete receiving scholarshiponey for one sport counts against the total scholarships for that sport. I think that they also can split a scholarship 50/50 between two D1 sports. They also can play
any DIII sport they want at a school with a D1 hockey program but otherwise DIII, like my alma mater - Clarkson. I think all of our golf team was made up of hockey players.
Diiihockeyfan
New member
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I''m pretty sure both sports must account for the full amount of scholarship towards their total allowable amount. Doesn't happen with hockey players anymore. Non Scholarship student athletes can play more than one sport. Athlete's on athletic scholarship at schools like Clarkson and SLU can not participate in D-III sports.
I''m pretty sure both sports must account for the full amount of scholarship towards their total allowable amount. Doesn't happen with hockey players anymore. Non Scholarship student athletes can play more than one sport. Athlete's on athletic scholarship at schools like Clarkson and SLU can not participate in D-III sports.
brookyone
Deport Right Wing Nuts
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Interesting question regarding splitting athletic scholarships between two sports at one institution. I've been wondering since I heard two head coaches at one school are "battling" over one athlete, gifted at both sports (D-I). That motivated me to inquire about that awhile ago and I was told each coach could offer half a scholarship...if they could agree to allow the prospective student athlete to participate in each sport. That was somewhat speculative by the source however, so...
Interesting question regarding splitting athletic scholarships between two sports at one institution. I've been wondering since I heard two head coaches at one school are "battling" over one athlete, gifted at both sports (D-I). That motivated me to inquire about that awhile ago and I was told each coach could offer half a scholarship...if they could agree to allow the prospective student athlete to participate in each sport. That was somewhat speculative by the source however, so...
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http://www.uscho.com/2004/01/12/scholarships-will-continue-for-diii-play-up-schools/
"Detractors immediately called those claims dubious at best. They noted that, for example, Division I athletes at these schools cannot play other sports, and money earned from Division I NCAA tournaments cannot be accepted by these schools. They also urged the Division III membership to consider that these schools all have model programs, with rigorous academic requirements."
http://www.uscho.com/2004/01/12/scholarships-will-continue-for-diii-play-up-schools/
"Detractors immediately called those claims dubious at best. They noted that, for example, Division I athletes at these schools cannot play other sports, and money earned from Division I NCAA tournaments cannot be accepted by these schools. They also urged the Division III membership to consider that these schools all have model programs, with rigorous academic requirements."
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They can split it, but whatever the total sum of athletic aid that student receives from both programs combined counts toward the scholarship limit for both programs. So if he or she is getting 50% from hockey and 50% from somewhere else, it counts as a full scholarship towards the limit of both programs.
They can split it, but whatever the total sum of athletic aid that student receives from both programs combined counts toward the scholarship limit for both programs. So if he or she is getting 50% from hockey and 50% from somewhere else, it counts as a full scholarship towards the limit of both programs.
Tweedle Dee
Pending inspiration
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I' pretty sure he meant with scholarships not just being able to play.
I' pretty sure he meant with scholarships not just being able to play.
Ralph Baer
Let's Go 'Tute!
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Either they were walkons on the hockey team or it was before Clarkson started offering athletic scholarships.
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Then he still forgot RPI, unless there's something I don't know. But I saw no indication of that qualification in the original post.
Powers &8^]
Then he still forgot RPI, unless there's something I don't know. But I saw no indication of that qualification in the original post.
Powers &8^]
giwan
Really??!!
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Believe there's a woman playing soccer and hockey at WI. Not sure how things are split of not for her.
Believe there's a woman playing soccer and hockey at WI. Not sure how things are split of not for her.