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Drinking Thread: Three Sheets To The Wind

dxmnkd316 said:
I understand the joke. You don't even really need to read the note to understand it. I just couldn't read the one word. I got the gist of it. :-)

Also, I enjoy some old movies. Keaton, especially.
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Don't sleep on Harold Lloyd, he's just as good.
 
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MissThundercat said:
With 2 years sober coming on April 30, I'm serio thinking of ways to replicate some of my favorite drinks without liquor, including a Moscow Mule.
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Tonic water, ginger beer, and lime? A little sugary, but might work. You can also find a number of NA spirits nowadays. Fairly expensive I'm sorry to say and not as satisfying, but, my sister in law enjoyed them from time to time while preggers.

Also, consider bitters. A dash or two here and there in carbonated water can go a very long way for flavor. We've been considering making our own bitters for a year or so but haven't had the chance to get all the ingredients. They're kinda spendy but you get a lot relative to what you need. Most are very shelf stable.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Tonic water, ginger beer, and lime? A little sugary, but might work. You can also find a number of NA spirits nowadays. Fairly expensive I'm sorry to say and not as satisfying, but, my sister in law enjoyed them from time to time while preggers.

Also, consider bitters. A dash or two here and there in carbonated water can go a very long way for flavor. We've been considering making our own bitters for a year or so but haven't had the chance to get all the ingredients. They're kinda spendy but you get a lot relative to what you need. Most are very shelf stable.
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One thing I was considering for my N/A Moscow Mule was simply Sprite and ginger beer.
 
Some NA booze has gotten quite good, particularly N/A gin, a lot of N/A microbrews, and a few N/A wines, but except for beer they all tend come with a high price tag considering you can't get a buzz off them. The best N/A red blend (Luminara) and N/A sparkling wines (Noughty) will set you back $20-25/bottle and good N/A gin is more like $40. Also, some mixed drinks you just cannot replicate the experience of. N/A gin is pretty good with tonic, but none of them make a good martini.
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Some NA booze has gotten quite good, particularly N/A gin, a lot of N/A microbrews, and a few N/A wines, but except for beer they all tend come with a high price tag considering you can't get a buzz off them. The best N/A red blend (Luminara) and N/A sparkling wines (Noughty) will set you back $20-25/bottle and good N/A gin is more like $40. Also, some mixed drinks you just cannot replicate the experience of. N/A gin is pretty good with tonic, but none of them make a good martini.
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So just make my own then and possibly create a few drinks.

Still thinking about that Sprite and ginger beer combo.
 
MissThundercat said:
Still thinking about that Sprite and ginger beer combo.
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Hmm. For that to work you need an OG sharp, strong ginger beer. Most ginger beers already taste like they've been cut with dishwater.

OTOH, those truly genuine ginger beers are not drinkable straight.

I think you have found a market inefficiency!
 
MissThundercat said:
So just make my own then and possibly create a few drinks.

Still thinking about that Sprite and ginger beer combo.
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Unlikely. many (most?) of them are actually made like normal spirits then have the alcohol removed.

I'm wondering if the solvent properties of ethanol are better for extracting them from the solid RMs relative to water.
 
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If you can't use ethanol, definitely try experimenting with time and temperature and pressure. Different compounds are extracted at different temperatures and different speeds. Temperature is usually a good replacement For time, but not always.

Take coffee, we find we prefer it with room temp water over 24-36 hours. Too long and it gets bitter, too short it's bland, too hot it's more acidic and often more bitter, and too cold and it takes too long.

Spices and oils might work at higher temps but you'd have to experiment. But pressure can make it even faster by using higher temps without losing much of the volatile compounds either.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
many (most?) of them are actually made like normal spirits then have the alcohol removed.
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Yes, and some EtOH removal processes are better at preserving flavor and aroma than others. None of them are perfect though. N/A wine, in particular, lacks much aroma because evaporating EtOH is a key missing component of the aroma compounds making it to your nose. And even good N/A beers (like Two Roots or Big Drop or Lagunitas N/A PA) don't have quite the right mouthfeel because they have to force some carbonation after the dealcoholization process (Two Roots comes the closest, IMO). Fun fact, EtOH is more viscous than water so it also adds body, though I doubt I have to explain that to a chemist :-). Thus, N/A wines and beers tend to drink a bit thin even when they have good flavor.
 
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