Detroit Tigers 2010, Part 2: Wanted: Hitting. Gerald Laird need not apply

[3W]

Re: Detroit Tigers 2010, Part 2: Wanted: Hitting. Gerald Laird need not apply

Jimmy Leyland uses some "colorful metaphors" with Eric Cooper and FSN forgets to turn its mics off.

A particular highlight: "They're going to the @$)*#% playoffs. We're not going anywhere!" At least he's still got his sense of rationality.

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[Hammer]

Re: Detroit Tigers 2010, Part 2: Wanted: Hitting. Gerald Laird need not apply

Obviously I don't have a problem with the 4-letter bombs. Look, it's his place of work, and they're playing for keeps out there. If he's gotta drop an F-bomb out there, by all means, be my guest. If everybody's got such a problem with it, quit putting mics up everyone's *** and trying to get sound out of every little thing that goes on. Some things are just better left on the field.

 

[SteveF]

Re: Detroit Tigers 2010, Part 2: Wanted: Hitting. Gerald Laird need not apply

not sure if his ejection will warrant a suspension, but if the umpire reports what he said there - it would presumably get him some time off.

"we are going to get somebody hurt, i can f@#$@$@ promise you that" is what preceded the part about the playoffs.

 

[Hammer]

Re: Detroit Tigers 2010, Part 2: Wanted: Hitting. Gerald Laird need not apply

His ejection didn't come there. Cooper finally tossed him in between innings, about 4 batters later. If Leyland gets suspended for that, Cooper should as well. He **** near lost control of that game, and he would have for sure had both Gardner and Cabrera not acted like grown men.

 

[SteveF]

Re: Detroit Tigers 2010, Part 2: Wanted: Hitting. Gerald Laird need not apply

his anger was justified, no question. but i'm sure mlb would not look kindly on his premeditation if the words he used get reported back.

the ump did lose control of the game, even after leyland tells him he is going to hurt someone he still doesnt react when the tigers throw at jeter. awesome!

he must have known his warning was stupid and figured he wouldnt enforce it.

 

[MaizeRage]

Re: Detroit Tigers 2010, Part 2: Wanted: Hitting. Gerald Laird need not apply

I've gotta side with Leyland on this one. You throw at Cabrera and somebody on the other side needs to eat a baseball. If you don't like it, take it up with your dip**** pitcher like Delmon Young did last year.

 

[SteveF]

Re: Detroit Tigers 2010, Part 2: Wanted: Hitting. Gerald Laird need not apply

I've gotta side with Leyland on this one. You throw at Cabrera and somebody on the other side needs to eat a baseball. If you don't like it, take it up with your dip**** pitcher like Delmon Young did last year.

except when you start the throwing. should have picked a more high profile target than gardner - not that anyone ever accused bonderman of being good at anything.

 

[MaizeRage]

Re: Detroit Tigers 2010, Part 2: Wanted: Hitting. Gerald Laird need not apply

except when you start the throwing. should have picked a more high profile target than gardner - not that anyone ever accused bonderman of being good at anything.

Someone should throw at your head for equivocating Gardner and Cabrera.

The Tigers threw at some scrub as retaliation for a Yankee taking out a Tiger with a hard slide. That should have been the end of it. It's utter garbage to throw at a team's superstar because a player like Gardner got hit.

 

[Hammer]

Re: Detroit Tigers 2010, Part 2: Wanted: Hitting. Gerald Laird need not apply

What should have happened was this:

"Mr. Leyland and Mr. Girardi, here's a warning now that Cabrera's been hit. One of each got plunked, that's the end of this, we're gonna play ball the right way for the duration of the evening. The dick-comparing contest is hereby declared over. And if you don't like it, you can go take an early shower."

2-0 Tigers after Cabrera's bomb in the 1st. 31 homers and 100 RBI for Big Boy.

 

[Hammer]

Re: Detroit Tigers 2010, Part 2: Wanted: Hitting. Gerald Laird need not apply

Well, I see that we're done here. Porcello got squeezed on the leadoff hitter in the 6th and then promptly ****s down his leg. I swear to God, the only way he can pitch with runners on base is if he's wearing a set of Depends. If the leadoff hitter gets on, you might as well put 2 runs on the board every time. Of course, it doesn't help that our merry band of retard rookie relievers either miss the strike zone by 5 feet or give up rockets to the power alleys.

7-2 Yankees, still in the 6th.

 

[MaizeRage]

Re: Detroit Tigers 2010, Part 2: Wanted: Hitting. Gerald Laird need not apply

Yeah, it doesn't work like that. In hockey, if somebody takes a cheap shot at a third or fourth liner, you don't get to run the other team's top player through the boards.

A big part of the code is maintaining some sense of equivalency. Even if they had hit an Inge or Peralta, it's not as big of a deal. Hitting Cabrera was way, way over the line.

 

[Hammer]

Re: Detroit Tigers 2010, Part 2: Wanted: Hitting. Gerald Laird need not apply

9-2. This team's got about as much life as Zsa Zsa.

 

[Hammer]

Re: Detroit Tigers 2010, Part 2: Wanted: Hitting. Gerald Laird need not apply

11-2. * this. I'm going to start using the homer light for other team's bombs as well.

Yes, let's bring in Bonine to clean up for Schlereth and Weinhardt. After that we'll use gasoline to put out the fire when the propane and diesel fuel doesn't do the job.

 

[Hammer]

Re: Detroit Tigers 2010, Part 2: Wanted: Hitting. Gerald Laird need not apply

Yeah, it doesn't work like that. In hockey, if somebody takes a cheap shot at a third or fourth liner, you don't get to run the other team's top player through the boards.

Comparing apples and grapefruit. This isn't hockey.

A big part of the code is maintaining some sense of equivalency. Even if they had hit an Inge or Peralta, it's not as big of a deal. Hitting Cabrera was way, way over the line.

If I'm not happy that one of my guys is getting hit (and it doesn't matter which one), I'm gonna dot one of your big guys to send the message "Stop plunking my hitters". I'm going to keep it under the shoulder blades, but I'm going to get your undivided attention about this matter.

Rather than continue to beat this dead horse, I am done discussing last night's purse fight. We're not going to see this team again until 2011. I think I've made it quite clear how I feel, and so have others. Unless this develops further between the teams, I'm moving on.

11-4 Yanks now.

 

[SteveF]

Re: Detroit Tigers 2010, Part 2: Wanted: Hitting. Gerald Laird need not apply

Someone should throw at your head for equivocating Gardner and Cabrera.

The Tigers threw at some scrub as retaliation for a Yankee taking out a Tiger with a hard slide. That should have been the end of it. It's utter garbage to throw at a team's superstar because a player like Gardner got hit.

i didnt equate them. in fact i made a point of saying there was a disparity in their status by criticizing bonderman. moreover, and i even said that leyland was justified in his anger (more at the umps for how they handled it - its not like he hasnt seen a batter get hit before)

though, you should definitely pay better attention. gardner was hit because he took the hard slide into guillen the night before. he wasnt a random. and i dont see why you would expect it to be done there after that HBP as 'dirty slide' isnt universally accepted (Same as slow homerun trot) for getting beaned. everybody is going to know that an intentional beanball deserves a beanball - it doesnt matter the caliber of the player at that point - that is the only way it ends.

and some times it doesnt, if the original team responds again because they still feel slighted (they usually are), that is when the mound gets charged. yah it may not always be even - but that is how it goes when you decide to plunk first. you have to take into consideration what the retaliation might be, how your best players are going to feel about it and weigh that vs how the player you are standing up for will feel if you dont brush someone back.

i do give credit to bonderman for making a statement by hitting him with the first pitch of the game and no outs (couse it backfired when he scored). but that is a stand up act for his player (guillen). if its me, i'm waiting till there are 2 outs and i'm going after Tex or Arod. the same point gets across.

 

[MaizeRage]

Re: Detroit Tigers 2010, Part 2: Wanted: Hitting. Gerald Laird need not apply

Johnny Damon is apparently on waivers along with Inge. He's spendy, but I'd have to think somebody would be interested in picking him up for the stretch. He's actually exceeded expectations this year.

 

[Hammer]

Re: Detroit Tigers 2010, Part 2: Wanted: Hitting. Gerald Laird need not apply

Yeah, well, Inge isn't likely headed to St. Louis anymore. They went and got another 3rd baseman last night. Felipe Lopez, I think. Damon and Inge are both at the end of their contracts. No big deal, as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Hammer]

Re: Detroit Tigers 2010, Part 2: Wanted: Hitting. Gerald Laird need not apply

Ugh. That was not a pretty collision at 1st. Laporta is hurt, Rhymes appears to be no worse for the wear. Nothing anybody could have done about that one once the catcher threw the ball. Bad throw that pulled Laporta's hand directly into the line of Rhymes' head.

 

[Hammer]

Re: Detroit Tigers 2010, Part 2: Wanted: Hitting. Gerald Laird need not apply

I have no idea what Choo was doing there. I have no idea why Cabrera tried to take 2nd there, for that matter.

2-0 Tigers, bottom 1.

 

[Hammer]

Re: Detroit Tigers 2010, Part 2: Wanted: Hitting. Gerald Laird need not apply

Point of housekeeping here. This will be the last Detroit Tiger Season Thread for the foreseeable future. Upon the closing of this thread we will have a new format. There will be a Tiger thread, but it will not be defined by any season.