Democratic Challengers 8: Candidates Can Only Work for A Vegan Farm Market

[Rover]

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Don’t know the source, just saw on twitter and it’s been reported on other places. I don’t know if the DNC would be fool enough to try and rig against Sanders again and bait his followers nor if Sanders would just take it like he did in 16. Just throwing it out there.

Thanks Vlady! Now pick up your rubles and go play outside.

 

[Kepler]

Re: Democratic Challengers 8: Candidates Can Only Work for A Vegan Farm Market

Don’t know the source, just saw on twitter and it’s been reported on other places. I don’t know if the DNC would be fool enough to try and rig against Sanders again and bait his followers nor if Sanders would just take it like he did in 16. Just throwing it out there.

No, that's not my point. It's obviously rigged. But stop linking to sites that would make Flag go, "well, I dunno, that seems like it might be a garbage click bait site."

 

[Kepler]

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Thanks Vlady! Now pick up your rubles and go play outside.

Don't be smug. All the "Bernie can't win" nonsense you quote is from botskis, too.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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Y’all need to stop huffing glue

 

[Rover]

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Don't be smug. All the "Bernie can't win" nonsense you quote is from botskis, too.

Your mind reading skills are giving your reading comprehension skills a run for their money!

If Bernie's the nominee then go Bernie. I've only said that 9 bazillion times. However in addressing solovsfett I was pointing out how his comment was boilerplate "everything is rigged" schlock that you'd see coming out of the Russian Intelligence Services and posted on Facebook in order to sow dissent and drive down turnout. Might be helpful if you could develop the ability to sniff this out as well....

 

[dxmnkd316]

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Your mind reading skills are giving your reading comprehension skills a run for their money!

If Bernie's the nominee then go Bernie. I've only said that 9 bazillion times. However in addressing solovsfett I was pointing out how his comment was boilerplate "everything is rigged" schlock that you'd see coming out of the Russian Intelligence Services and posted on Facebook in order to sow dissent and drive down turnout. Might be helpful if you could develop the ability to sniff this out as well....

Exactly. It's not rigged. 3.7 million more people voted for Hillary. That's not rigged.

 

[Rover]

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Exactly. It's not rigged. 3.7 million more people voted for Hillary. That's not rigged.

Even funnier is that the whole theory is predicated on Debbie Wasserman Schultz being an evil genius. This out of a woman who would screw up a one car funeral. If Debbie Wasserman Schultz could outsmart Bernie Sanders....

 

[Kepler]

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Exactly. It's not rigged. 3.7 million more people voted for Hillary. That's not rigged.

"Rigged" is the wrong word. It's handicapping, like vote suppression or districting. We can still win but we need a big margin to overcome the bias.

I don't know why people freak out about this. It's been the case in every nomination race in history. The establishment either has a favorite candidate for spoils or they have resistance to certain ideologies for any number of reasons and try to block out those candidates. That's how the game is played. In 2016, it was both.

A bona fide small s socialist is not going to win the Democratic nomination unless he has an enormous advantage in the base electorate. Once all the ad buys and attacks and all the administrative manipulations are applied, a small lead will have been overwhelmed. In case you're new to politics, consent can be manufactured at the margins.

I have no doubt that had there been no finger on the scale in 2016 Bernie would have been the nominee.

I am also not butt hurt about this in the slightest because every nomination fight is like this.

This is the business we have chosen.

 

[solovsfett]

No, that's not my point. It's obviously rigged. But stop linking to sites that would make Flag go, "well, I dunno, that seems like it might be a garbage click bait site."

Yeah, I did not vet the site, just saw it on twitter on lunch and reposted. My go-to sites would be mintpress news, the intercept, who what why and a couple of others.

 

[Kepler]

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Even funnier is that the whole theory is predicated on Debbie Wasserman Schultz being an evil genius.

Nobody ever said this. What I said, and what is true, is she was installed to assist in obtaining a result. And if you don't understand that then you don't understand politics.

You throw so much straw around you should advise in the prairie states.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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That's actually not wrong though lol.

Maduro needs to go, but it would be nice if the US would stay out of wars in Banana Republics for once.

 

[Kepler]

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Maduro needs to go, but it would be nice if the US would stay out of wars in Banana Republics for once.

Exactly.

<img src="https://www.lasyahealing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Stickerline-elsa-let-it-go.png">

Imagine the good will the United States would have generated in the region, and the stability, if from 1899 onwards we had said, "We will observe the Prime Directive as regards your internal politics. If you apply to us for humanitarian aid we will always unstintingly supply it. If you have an aggressive foreign policy we may take action but we will never interfere with your internal politics, even if you request it. We will never supply you weapons, troops, or military training."

Think of what we could have done with this hemisphere if we hadn't subcontracted our State Department and military to US corporations and anti-communist zealots?

 

[solovsfett]

Exactly.

<img src="https://www.lasyahealing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Stickerline-elsa-let-it-go.png">

Imagine the good will the United States would have generated in the region, and the stability, if from 1899 onwards we had said, "We will observe the Prime Directive as regards your internal politics. If you apply to us for humanitarian aid we will always unstintingly supply it. If you have an aggressive foreign policy we may take action but we will never interfere with your internal politics, even if you request it. We will never supply you weapons, troops, or military training."

Think of what we could have done with this hemisphere if we hadn't subcontracted our State Department and military to US corporations and anti-communist zealots?

! Agreed on all of this.

 

[Handyman]

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"Rigged" is the wrong word. It's handicapping, like vote suppression or districting. We can still win but we need a big margin to overcome the bias.

I don't know why people freak out about this. It's been the case in every nomination race in history. The establishment either has a favorite candidate for spoils or they have resistance to certain ideologies for any number of reasons and try to block out those candidates. That's how the game is played. In 2016, it was both.

A bona fide small s socialist is not going to win the Democratic nomination unless he has an enormous advantage in the base electorate. Once all the ad buys and attacks and all the administrative manipulations are applied, a small lead will have been overwhelmed. In case you're new to politics, consent can be manufactured at the margins.

I have no doubt that had there been no finger on the scale in 2016 Bernie would have been the nominee.

I am also not butt hurt about this in the slightest because every nomination fight is like this.

This is the business we have chosen.

How was the finger on the scale? I keep asking and no one seems to have an answer. Classic conspiracy theory...just say it is so because you dont like the results and let the chips fall where they may.

Hillary Clinton won 34 states. (including Texas, California, NY and Florida)
Bernie won 26.

Hillary Clinton had almost 17 million votes
Bernie had just over 13 million

Hillary took 3/4 early contests. (only lost NH though she barely took Iowa)
Hillary took 8/12 on Super Tuesday

No Bernie voter was stopped from voting. There was no election fraud ever documented. She didnt backdoor it with the superdelegates even. (though she obviously had the numbers to do so) The only thing they can actually prove is the Donna Brazille nonsense. (which was stupid even for her) Bernie had everything needed to win...except the votes. Hillary beat him, and she did so without having anyone *wink wink* it through or put their finger on the scale. The whining is no different than every fan of every losing team saying "I am not blaming the refs but **** they didnt make life any easier on us!". The system isnt why Bernie lost and Hillary won...the voters are. It sucks...

And hey, if the "finger on the scale" deal is to be believed he should have no problems winning this time. None of the "centrists" this time have the support Hillary did. They should split amongst 5-6 candidates and Bernie should have a path. He has to do something besides win the medium and small caucuses though.

 

[Rover]

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Nobody ever said this. What I said, and what is true, is she was installed to assist in obtaining a result. And if you don't understand that then you don't understand politics.

You throw so much straw around you should advise in the prairie states.

Kep your statement is absurd and fits with Russian propaganda. If DWS was involved in trying to screw over Bernie, he would have been the nominee! He lost because more people voted for the other candidate. Bernie did not hurt for funding or exposure. He lost fair and square. If he managed to get snookered by Debbie Wasserman Schultz of all people, do you REALLY want him running the country?

 

[St. Clown]

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Hillary Clinton won 34 states. (including Texas, California, NY and Florida)
Bernie won 26.

Goofer math.

 

[Kepler]

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You folks are willfully misunderstanding. "There can't have been cheating because look at the result!" I can't even.

The important thing here is not that the bloodless lanyards and hypocritical vampires who own the Democratic party are at it again. It's that Bernie or Warren may win anyway. If so, GREAT! If not, well, world socialism is not built in a day, and I get another 4 years without a wealth tax.

 

[solovsfett]

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Consortium News (RIP Robert Perry) has an article on the DNC Fraud lawsuit: https://consortiumnews.com/tag/dnc-fraud-lawsuit/

Evidently the Supreme Court is eyeing this now. It may not go anywhere but FYI. Jared Beck is the attorney representing the plaintiffs.

EDIT: more about what happened in 2016 here: https://www.amazon.com/What-Happened-Bernie-Sanders-Jared/dp/1510736697

 

[dxmnkd316]

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You folks are willfully misunderstanding. "There can't have been cheating because look at the result!" I can't even.

That’s an incredibly lame argument.

 

[Handyman]

You folks are willfully misunderstanding. "There can't have been cheating because look at the result!" I can't even.

The important thing here is not that the bloodless lanyards and hypocritical vampires who own the Democratic party are at it again. It's that Bernie or Warren may win anyway. If so, GREAT! If not, well, world socialism is not built in a day, and I get another 4 years without a wealth tax.

So prove they cheated. You keep acting like we are all ignoring the evidence. You have yet to do anything except say "it's true cause I say so".