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Democratic Challengers 2020 - 12: The End of the Beginning

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First Time said:
Just another conspiracy...
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Just so you understand this clearly since the entire world is a conspiracy to you: the link was to a comparison of exit polls to actual vote totals. You can believe the polls or not. No-one is asking for you to agree with them. No-one.

Christ, you spend an inordinate amount of time chastising or name calling Bernie voters, in that time an effort have you thought a moment of how to reach Bernie supporters and get them to consider your guy or does that seem like too much effort?
 
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solovsfett said:
Just so you understand this clearly since the entire world is a conspiracy to you: the link was to a comparison of exit polls to actual vote totals. You can believe the polls or not. No-one is asking for you to agree with them. No-one.

Christ, you spend an inordinate amount of time chastising or name calling Bernie voters, in that time an effort have you thought a moment of how to reach Bernie supporters and get them to consider your guy or does that seem like too much effort?
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I'm going to throw something out here. It's a little bit crazy, but it just might be true: Could it be that you don't give a rat's arse about Bernie Sanders? Could it be that you're a troll trying to cause a fight between Sanders supporters and everybody else who's now defaulted to Biden even though you've been about as successful at that as Trump has in managing the coronavirus crisis? Just asking the question of course. ;)
 
solovsfett said:
Just so you understand this clearly since the entire world is a conspiracy to you: the link was to a comparison of exit polls to actual vote totals. You can believe the polls or not. No-one is asking for you to agree with them. No-one.

Christ, you spend an inordinate amount of time chastising or name calling Bernie voters, in that time an effort have you thought a moment of how to reach Bernie supporters and get them to consider your guy or does that seem like too much effort?
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All I ask is to vote blue no matter what. Not that hard a concept really.
The Bernie Bros shouldn't need convincing that Dem is better than Trump. People who need convincing on that...arent worth convincing.
 
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solovsfett said:
Christ, you spend an inordinate amount of time chastising or name calling Bernie voters, in that time an effort have you thought a moment of how to reach Bernie supporters and get them to consider your guy or does that seem like too much effort?
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You and the Bros did yourselves no favors when you were the ones who trotted out ridiculous "both sides r bad!1!!" and "no difference between them" memes like this:

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Rover said:
I'm going to throw something out here. It's a little bit crazy, but it just might be true: Could it be that you don't give a rat's arse about Bernie Sanders? Could it be that you're a troll trying to cause a fight between Sanders supporters and everybody else who's now defaulted to Biden even though you've been about as successful at that as Trump has in managing the coronavirus crisis? Just asking the question of course. ;)
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Not a troll. I love Bernie and most of what he stands for (I would like him to adopt Tulsi’s View on proxy wars and Iraq etc). I’m not here to start fights i’m saying we can imo do much much better than Biden and I feel getting him in there and pushing left won’t work. He’s beholden to Goldman Sachs, Citicorp and the MIC. That’s what his 8 years as vp showed me anyway.

I just cannot get over the deaths caused by the vote to go into Iraq and then with Obama/Biden the drone strike mania that has destabilized Yemen and the interventions in Libya and Syria. We’re talking well north of 1 million dead now. That’s insane.

And I don’t buy he’s the only hope or only one with a chance.
 
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solovsfett said:
Not a troll. I love Bernie and most of what he stands for (I would like him to adopt Tulsi’s View on proxy wars and Iraq etc). I’m not here to start fights i’m saying we can imo do much much better than Biden and I feel getting him in there and pushing left won’t work. He’s beholden to Goldman Sachs, Citicorp and the MIC. That’s what his 8 years as vp showed me anyway.

I just cannot get over the deaths caused by the vote to go into Iraq and then with Obama/Biden the drone strike mania that has destabilized Yemen and the interventions in Libya and Syria. We’re talking well north of 1 million dead now. That’s insane.

And I don’t buy he’s the only hope or only one with a chance.
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But you’re ok with re-electing trump who is going to kill a couple of million Americans?
 
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solovsfett said:
No. Like i said earlier, neither one of these guys are choices and THAT is what we should be fighting.
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However, for the time being you are wasting half of your voting power. So you are half-voting for Dump by not voting blue.

If you have a conviction fine stand by it. But don't prevaricate. You are doing this.
 
solovsfett said:
No. Like i said earlier, neither one of these guys are choices and THAT is what we should be fighting.
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But they are when they win the primaries. That's how our system works. Bernie couldn't unite people...he couldn't get people to vote for him...therefore he lost.
The issue now is Trump or Not Trump. That's your choice. A vote for Bernie when he isn't the nominee is a vote for Trump. It is that simple.
 
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solovsfett said:
No. Like i said earlier, neither one of these guys are choices and THAT is what we should be fighting.
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your chance to choose Bernie was during the primary. Maybe you should have convinced more people to vote for him.

In November your choice is Trump or Biden.
 
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Its unfortunate that we have to vote foe just people realistically. People "should" be able to vote for whomever they want.

But we know that only hurts dems, as gop voters are much more united.
 
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