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Democratic Challengers 2020 - 12: The End of the Beginning

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solovsfett said:
The centrists will prove themselves wrong when Biden is crushed.

I’m voting Bernie in Wisconsin, i’m Going to do my part.
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There are two parts to doing your part. One might be voting for Sanders in the WI primary, but 2 is definitely voting for WHOEVER the Democrats eventually nominate in November. If you don't do that you are every bit as much of the problem as someone who votes FOR trump. Of that there is no debate.
 
solovsfett said:
You know, i’m Tired of you taking shots at me without actually engaging in using your grey matter. **** off *******. You don’t like my points then debate them, prove me wrong.

Trump will destroy Biden, sorry. I don’t want it or like it but it’s what I believe is the most likely scenario. They can’t hide Biden’s dementia in debates with Trump.
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Bernie is a fringe candidate that did well in the primary in 2016 because of anti-Hillary sentiment. It turns out he isn’t expanding his base, and at this point I think he’d get crushed in the general.

And keep in mind I voted for the guy on Super Tuesday (even though I think it might have been a mistake)
 
solovsfett said:
You know, i’m Tired of you taking shots at me without actually engaging in using your grey matter. **** off *******. You don’t like my points then debate them, prove me wrong.

Trump will destroy Biden, sorry. I don’t want it or like it but it’s what I believe is the most likely scenario. They can’t hide Biden’s dementia in debates with Trump.
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What about Trump's dementia?

There will be no debates, solely for that reason.
 
solovsfett said:
Oh wow, i’m Really hurt. I may need therapy, some ******* on the web calls me an idiot.

You know what I said is true, Trump will destroy Biden and the people who voted for Biden are ****ing colossal idiots.
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Voters made a choice...and every non Bernie voter I know will vote blue no matter what...the Bernie Bros won't commit to the same.
To me...that makes Bernie voters colossal idiots...Trump is the enemy conspiracy boy. Figure that out or shut up.
 
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solovsfett said:
You know, i’m Tired of you taking shots at me without actually engaging in using your grey matter. **** off *******. You don’t like my points then debate them, prove me wrong.

Trump will destroy Biden, sorry. I don’t want it or like it but it’s what I believe is the most likely scenario. They can’t hide Biden’s dementia in debates with Trump.
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solo, you know I'm balls deep in Sanders and in democratic socialism.

I understand how disappointing it is, but we have to carry forward whatever we can to help this country. The only vehicle for change is the Democratic party. That means we are blue first, ideologues second.

I get it. The constant attacks on Sanders personally and his voters generally are both irritating and a sad reminder that Plute talking points can easily turn even smart liberals into their own worst enemies. But we have to be the better people. We have to win, and it looks like Biden is the guy, so... Biden it is -- he has become a cross between Jesus Christ and Neil deGrasse Tyson for the next 4-8 years.

If it's any consolation, we're right. We have diagnosed the economic problem of this country correctly and the eventual solution will resemble what we want. It sucks to be a feminist in the 18th century or an abolitionist in the 19th century, but we do what we can and we should not engage in self-defeating behavior like attacking allies. Yes, they will. But we can only control our own behavior.
 
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Handyman said:
That is exactly what they did. They also didn't vote in 2016 but made sure to whine and protest after.

(this is where Kepler denies the truth :p )
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You are absolutely right that somebody who continues to relentlessly attack allies and spread anger and conflict in the face of a desperate need for unity is, indeed, a complete moron.
 
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First Time said:
How bout no.
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Really?

Well then how about a big ol' DIAF.

This is starting to sound like Hillary 2.0.

"Hey, we really need these other voters. How about we approach them in a friendly way?"

"NO!!! THEY AREN'T GOOD TEAM PLAYERS!!! THEY WON'T UNIFY!!! I AM GOING TO KEEP SCREAMING AT THEM UNTIL THEY LIKE ME!!!"

"Um. You do you."
 
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Kepler said:
solo, you know I'm balls deep in Sanders and in democratic socialism.

I understand how disappointing it is, but we have to carry forward whatever we can to help this country. The only vehicle for change is the Democratic party. That means we are blue first, ideologues second.

I get it. The constant attacks on Sanders personally and his voters generally are both irritating and a sad reminder that Plute talking points can easily turn even smart liberals into their own worst enemies. But we have to be the better people. We have to win, and it looks like Biden is the guy, so... Biden it is -- he has become a cross between Jesus Christ and Neil deGrasse Tyson for the next 4-8 years.

If it's any consolation, we're right. We have diagnosed the economic problem of this country correctly and the eventual solution will resemble what we want. It sucks to be a feminist in the 18th century or an abolitionist in the 19th century, but we do what we can and we should not engage in self-defeating behavior like attacking allies. Yes, they will. But we can only control our own behavior.
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I agree with all of this and it’s true i’m ****ed at the attacks on Bernie but to be honest i’m Even more upset at an electorate who continually choose pro-war and pro-wall Street candidates. Biden said nothing when Citicorp chose the cabinet for he and Obama.

Grrrrrrtt😡
 
First Time said:
Voters made a choice...and every non Bernie voter I know will vote blue no matter what...the Bernie Bros won't commit to the same.
To me...that makes Bernie voters colossal idiots...Trump is the enemy conspiracy boy. Figure that out or shut up.
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We’re not at a point where i’ll Have to check my rage and vote for pro-war Joe, that will be in November and I believe he’ll get crushed.

As for this conspiracy ****, either read up on the origin of the term or debate me about any of X, JFK, RFK or MLK. I won’t allow you to blurt that term coined by Richard Helms in document 1035-960 and disseminated via operation mockingbird without challenging you to put up about it. You want to debate facts i’ll See you in the other thread and i’ll Link to IG reports and files at NARA to back up my points along with statements from Mcnamara, Hilsman, Ellsberg And Raskin to start.
 
Kepler said:
Really?

Well then how about a big ol' DIAF.

This is starting to sound like Hillary 2.0.

"Hey, we really need these other voters. How about we approach them in a friendly way?"

"NO!!! THEY AREN'T GOOD TEAM PLAYERS!!! THEY WON'T UNIFY!!! I AM GOING TO KEEP SCREAMING AT THEM UNTIL THEY LIKE ME!!!"

"Um. You do you."
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Again...the only voters I see not committed to voting Blue no matter what are Bernie Bros...so yes I'm calling them morons for it.
Funny how you have harsher words for me than solo when we used the same words to describe other voters.
You're a hypocrite of the worst order.
 
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solovsfett said:
I agree with all of this and it’s true i’m ****ed at the attacks on Bernie but to be honest i’m Even more upset at an electorate who continually choose pro-war and pro-wall Street candidates. Biden said nothing when Citicorp chose the cabinet for he and Obama.

Grrrrrrtt😡
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I know, I know, I know.

But whatever we are unhappy about the only relevant sentence for November is: the Republicans are a million times worse.

Evil is a terrible side effect of Democratic corruption and ineptitude.

Evil is the Republican mission statement.

Dump and the Nazis are so bad I won't even have to hold my nose to vote for Biden. I will GLADLY do so.

We can't save the world someday if there's no world.
 
solovsfett said:
We’re not at a point where i’ll Have to check my rage and vote for pro-war Joe, that will be in November and I believe he’ll get crushed.

As for this conspiracy ****, either read up on the origin of the term or debate me about any of X, JFK, RFK or MLK. I won’t allow you to blurt that term coined by Richard Helms in document 1035-960 and disseminated via operation mockingbird without challenging you to put up about it. You want to debate facts i’ll See you in the other thread and i’ll Link to IG reports and files at NARA to back up my points along with statements from Mcnamara, Hilsman, Ellsberg And Raskin to start.
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For me...conspiracy theories are signs of weak minds. So link all you want...you can circle jerk that by yourself.
 
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Biden won’t get crushed if the left comes out and votes for him...

If you’re having trouble coming up with the motivation...there are kids in cages who may never see their parents again. Vote against that.
 
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First Time said:
Again...the only voters I see not committed to voting Blue no matter what are Bernie Bros...so yes I'm calling them morons for it.
Funny how you have harsher words for me than solo when we used the same words to describe other voters.
You're a hypocrite of the worst order.
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There are many, many Sanders supporters who are blue no matter who.

The fact that you can't acknowledge this is your mental deficiency.

You are TALKING TO a Sanders supporter who is blue no matter who, but instead you cling to a media narrative crafted by the very people who want us to lose.

Wake up. Grow up. Do whatever it takes to get out of your own head and see the actual world in front of you, not the model in your head that has been jammed there. You're sitting on your as-s pontificating about what all Sanders people are when a Sanders person is right here in real life telling you exactly the opposite.

Learn. FFS, learn.
 
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Kepler said:
There are many, many Sanders supporters who are blue no matter who.

The fact that you can't acknowledge this is your mental deficiency.

You are TALKING TO a Sanders supporter who is blue no matter who, but instead you cling to a media narrative crafted by the very people who want us to lose.

Wake up. Grow up. Do whatever it takes to get out of your own head and see thew world in front of you. You're sitting on you as-s pontificating about what all Sanders people are when a Sanders person is right here in real life telling you exactly the opposite.

Learn. FFS, learn.
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Ok..so it's not all...but it is a vast majority based on what I've seen and as I said...they are the only ones I see doing it.
You can also stop with this media **** as well. I make my own opinions.
But you can **** off with your learn when you also say I can DIAF.
 
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