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Days Since Last Mass Shooting: 0 - II

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leswp1 said:
Look up the history [of the 2nd Amendment] (way too lazy to type pages) there were reasons this was in the constitution and it had to do with protecting the COMMUNITY.
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um, that's completely consistent with what I wrote...to protect the community, make sure that, from an early age, everyone respects the damage a gun can do, knows how and when to use it responsibly, and knows how to store and maintain it safely.

Wyoming has very little gun-related violence, yet there are more guns than people there. Children are taught respect and careful use of guns from an early age. The noise and recoil alone, in a child's hands, are plenty impressive. You learn instinctively to fear what it can do when used improperly; you never use it for "self-expression" or for political commentary. You know how dangerous it can be and treat it accordingly.

Adolescents, on the other hand, think they will live forever and that nothing will ever harm them. Worst time in life to use a gun for the first time.
 
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leswp1 said:
??? the statistics of having a gun help you are abysmal.
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totally missed the point. if a person has been brutally hurt, then being afraid of it happening again a second time, given how our nervous system works, is totally rational.
 
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FreshFish said:
If you really, truly want to take on the NRA, get someone to go into the inner cities and enroll the Bloods and the Crips and MS-13 members in the NRA.
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Yep, I've been saying the same thing for a long time. I really want to see 10,000 black males descend on CPAC and crowd the NRA booth with enthusiastic and sincere interest. The gun lobby would LOVE it (genuinely)! :)

I suspect the Second Amendment would suddenly not be all quite so comprehensive, given that a single unarmed black teen is enough to make the entire inbred nation of Billy Bobs sh-t a collective brick.

I'd also really like to see blacks start using Stand Your Ground when confronted with angry, threatening herpa-derps. Again, we'd find the right suddenly discerning subtleties in that legislation not currently apparent.
 
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leswp1 said:
the women I know are basically sane and don't believe the crud about a bogey man behind every corner.
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How nice for you to live in a safe part of the country. Thousands of women in our cities have had very different life experiences than yours. Why judge them because of that?
 
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FreshFish said:
How nice for you to live in a safe part of the country. Thousands of women in our cities have had very different life experiences than yours. Why judge them because of that?
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I love it when white conservatives opine about Urban People. :p

Fish, here is some friendly advice one of the people you're using as a prop for your idiocy once offered to you:

If you ain't ever been to the ghetto
Don't ever come to the ghetto
Cause you wouldn't understand the ghetto
And stay the f-ck out of the ghetto
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FreshFish said:
How nice for you to live in a safe part of the country. Thousands of women in our cities have had very different life experiences than yours. Why judge them because of that?
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I was careful to clarify in my part of the country. The statistics of actual violence towards women from strangers, not those they know does not support the need to bring a gun to your mailbox, carry one to the grocery store, etc. What do all those women in the rest of the world do to feel safe? Is there a higher incidence of violence towards women in cultures that do not carry pepper spray, mace or a gun?

I have taken care of women who have survived violence towards them. I am cognizant that things happen. Anecdotally I can also say for the most part it was someone they know, not the bogie man behind the mailbox
 
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If you're packing a gun for personal protection, outside of a war zone, you're an idiot. You're far more likely to blow away a family member, a bystander, or a finger than you are to successfully defend yourself.

The NRA has peddled guns to dumb white women to protect their honor from the Scary Black Menace for fifty years, and it's the same ol' racist game the South used to play by lynching people. Only they figured out how to monetize it.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Incorrect. It was for anyone who was both receiving social security benefits for a mental illness AND whose mental illness was severe enough to warrant someone else to handle their affairs be denied purchase. It did pass. It was removed under the CRA.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-guns-some-deemed-mentally-impaired/97299756/
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Huh. I was misinformed then, sorry. I might have been misled by the "Obama-era" description about the rule that was stricken (as being a proposal that was voted down). The law barely had time to get warmed up before it was stomped down. Any little nibble at the edge of "gun rights" generates a nuclear response from the NRA et al.
 
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geezer said:
Huh. I was misinformed then, sorry. I might have been misled by the "Obama-era" description about the rule that was stricken (as being a proposal that was voted down). The law barely had time to get warmed up before it was stomped down. Any little nibble at the edge of "gun rights" generates a nuclear response from the NRA et al.
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There was a great discussion about it at the start of this thread or in the gun control thread. Very detailed.
 
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The NRA leadership would deny Blacks membership. They proved that when they took days to comment on Philandro Castillo.
 
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Handyman said:
The NRA leadership would deny Blacks membership. They proved that when they took days to comment on Philandro Castillo.
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Somewhat unrelated, but Yanez is going to get off on that anyway. He got in front of the jury and used his magic words get out of jail free card, "I feared for my life".
 
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No way. It ain't going to happen. I haven't spoken to a single person that buys it after watching the video.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
No way. It ain't going to happen. I haven't spoken to a single person that buys it after watching the video.
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As of reporting now it's a hung jury. They have been asked to try and break it but no dice yet. I'm willing to bet he gets off.
 
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Are you serious? I thought that was Cosby.

Unbelievable. This might be the case that convinces me a cop can murder someone in cold blood and get off (and also get acquitted).
 
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Wonder if they will retry him, I'm assuming this ends with a hung jury. I can't imagine any of the jurors leaning towards no guilty will change their minds about the Scary Black Man. I think the best the prosecutors can get is a plea bargain to avoid a 2nd trial, and I wouldn't give very good odds on that.
 
FreshFish said:
um, that's completely consistent with what I wrote...to protect the community, make sure that, from an early age, everyone respects the damage a gun can do, knows how and when to use it responsibly, and knows how to store and maintain it safely.

Wyoming has very little gun-related violence, yet there are more guns than people there. Children are taught respect and careful use of guns from an early age. The noise and recoil alone, in a child's hands, are plenty impressive. You learn instinctively to fear what it can do when used improperly; you never use it for "self-expression" or for political commentary. You know how dangerous it can be and treat it accordingly.

Adolescents, on the other hand, think they will live forever and that nothing will ever harm them. Worst time in life to use a gun for the first time.
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Wyoming also has a population density of 6 people per square mile and a total population less than the Des Moines metropolitan area.

Something tells me that plays a bigger role than anything you just said.
 
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