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D1 Recruits Thread

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used2lurk said:
O'Brien (F), Webster (F), & Wheeler (F)

or

Murphy (F), Burton (F), A. Wethington (F), T. Jungels (F), & Nicholson (D)

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I am not a GM or college coach. I have seen all but Wheeler play more than several times over the past 3 years and have seen Wheeler online and in person at NAHA. I believe that most coaches and myself would choose the 5 MN commits over the 3 WI commits. Arguably Murphy & Nicholson are even with any 2/3 WI commits. Then you could have Burton/Wethington/Jungels or the last WI commit? Give me 3-4 star commits over 1-5 star with all playing another year of HS and then 4 years of college.
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Minnesota also has Josey Dunne and Anne Cherkowski in addition to the 5 you mention. Minnesota's recruiting class is really well rounded with size and speed and to have Abbey Murphy head the class? Yeah...I'm good with that.
 
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FiveHoleFrenzy said:
Minnesota also has Josey Dunne and Anne Cherkowski in addition to the 5 you mention. Minnesota's recruiting class is really well rounded with size and speed and to have Abbey Murphy head the class? Yeah...I'm good with that.
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I see that the Silly Season just doesn't run on the Gopher hole football site.
 
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FiveHoleFrenzy said:
If you're into the "silly season" here is a story that gives some insight into the Neutral Zone scouting service...

https://www.rutlandherald.com/sports/local/profile-brendan-collins-scours-country-for-hockey-talent/article_49dc19b9-e356-5ba5-8406-2bc5350df758.html
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Silly season is correct. These scouting services have a very interesting perspective regarding player evaluations and ratings?? Not to mention pay to be evaluated/recognized/viewed services. Looking at what Minnesota is bringing in you don't need to look farther than USA/Canada rosters at U-18 World championships this year to see the talent.Who performed and contributed With perhaps some of the best players and talent being virtually unrecognized or acknowledged.
 
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Hockeynation said:
Silly season is correct. These scouting services have a very interesting perspective regarding player evaluations and ratings?? Not to mention pay to be evaluated/recognized/viewed services. Looking at what Minnesota is bringing in you don't need to look farther than USA/Canada rosters at U-18 World championships this year to see the talent.Who performed and contributed With perhaps some of the best players and talent being virtually unrecognized or acknowledged.
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Outside of the top recruits, which are easy to identify, I see these services as another data point. I know a few DIII coaches and they can't always get out as much as they would want so they may only see some players once, maybe twice. Another point of view certainly can't hurt, but I know I wouldn't base my recruiting decisions entirely on someone else's evaluation.
 
GTOWN said:
Outside of the top recruits, which are easy to identify, I see these services as another data point. I know a few DIII coaches and they can't always get out as much as they would want so they may only see some players once, maybe twice. Another point of view certainly can't hurt, but I know I wouldn't base my recruiting decisions entirely on someone else's evaluation.
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Neutral Zone evaluations are valued much more by parents & players than coaches. Doubtful any D1 coach takes the opinion of a glorified blogger as fact.
 
Sieve1 said:
Neutral Zone evaluations are valued much more by parents & players than coaches. Doubtful any D1 coach takes the opinion of a glorified blogger as fact.
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You’re probably right (although I don’t know many parents that actually pay for the service) but to calll them glorified bloggers isn’t quite fair. I’ve met 4-5 of their scouts in different rinks during tournaments and provincials. These folks typically have a solid background in hockey coaching and/or playing, they really are there to evaluate.
 
GTOWN said:
You’re probably right (although I don’t know many parents that actually pay for the service) but to calll them glorified bloggers isn’t quite fair. I’ve met 4-5 of their scouts in different rinks during tournaments and provincials. These folks typically have a solid background in hockey coaching and/or playing, they really are there to evaluate.
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I’m sure they do know plenty about the game, but my point is that very few, if any, D1 coaches are going to turn to places like Neutral Zone for their info. They’ll do their own legwork and make their own evaluations.
 
Sieve1 said:
I’m sure they do know plenty about the game, but my point is that very few, if any, D1 coaches are going to turn to places like Neutral Zone for their info. They’ll do their own legwork and make their own evaluations.
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Agree. But there’s a much bigger world out there than just D1. My guess is they are more likely to include these evaluations in the decision making than D1 teams.
 
FiveHoleFrenzy said:
But you said they were glorified bloggers? :confused:
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Plenty of bloggers have backgrounds in sports. Doesn’t mean they don’t know the game. But they’re in the stands, posting on a website, rather than on the bench as a professional coach. Point is that a professional head coach can evaluate talent herself/himself. Doesn’t need someone in the stands to do it for them on a subscription website.
 
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you hafta admire the ingenuity of it
create a glorified blog where you discuss and rate the potential of a kid to play hockey
and then charge the parents to see what they wrote about their kid
 
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pokechecker said:
you hafta admire the ingenuity of it
create a glorified blog where you discuss and rate the potential of a kid to play hockey
and then charge the parents to see what they wrote about their kid
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To be quite honest most parents that have watched their own kid and the same grouping of kids for 10 years or so are more qualified to be scouts than blog peeps.
 
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