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D1 Commitments 2010-2011, part deux

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Rogie21 said:
BU's announcement of eight freshmen and two transfers. Quite a strong and deep group. Kudos to Durocher and his staff.
http://www.goterriers.com/sports/w-hockey/spec-rel/080510aab.html
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Hmm. This class announcement should rekindle a past thread about "Who has the best incoming class".

I'd say the one from BU is pretty hard to beat, even when considering adding olympic returnees at various other schools as part of the incoming class.

The one two three punch of Ward, Wakefield and Poulin is pretty hard to beat.
 
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OnMAA said:
Hmm. This class announcement should rekindle a past thread about "Who has the best incoming class".

I'd say the one from BU is pretty hard to beat, even when considering adding olympic returnees at various other schools as part of the incoming class.

The one two three punch of Ward, Wakefield and Poulin is pretty hard to beat.
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That may be true, although I am very interested in seeing how these players incorporate into the team. BU already had 5 returning strong defensemen. Adding 4 more is bound to be problematic especially at this position where many teams only play 4 or 5 regularly.
 
Re: D1 Commitments 2010-2011, part deux

OnMAA said:
Hmm. This class announcement should rekindle a past thread about "Who has the best incoming class".

I'd say the one from BU is pretty hard to beat, even when considering adding olympic returnees at various other schools as part of the incoming class.

The one two three punch of Ward, Wakefield and Poulin is pretty hard to beat.
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We talked about similar issues last season in the Rutter thread, around about here:
OnMAA said:
Agree that Knight is a high impact player for Wisco, just like Agosta is for Mercyhurst. Not too many others in the college game that are as dynamic. The next one with that kind of impact will probably be Poulin.

IMHO next season I could see another Wisco - Hurst final.
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Again, I don't think it is as clear cut that the BU trio stands above any three returning/incoming players at any other school, just like I didn't think it is a given that Agosta will be the single player having the most impact next season. It is within the realm of possibility that another school in the city of Boston or another team wearing red and white could get more impact from 3 additions than the Terriers.

For discussion, here are some other possible contending teams and a guess at candidates for "3 most impactful additions":

BC -- Schaus, Stack, Mangene (or one of their other U18 vets);
Clarkson -- Rattray, Howe, Nisbet;
Cornell -- Johnston, Jenner, J. Campbell;
Harvard -- Fry, Gedman, Young;
MC -- Agosta, Bestland, Cicero;
UM -- Davis, Kessel, Schoullis;
UMD -- Holmlov, Irwin, Martin;
UND -- Karvinen, Lam, Lam;
UNH -- don't know enough about them for even a wild guess;:o
UW -- Duggan, Knight, Rigsby;

So I agree that BU is bringing in a lot of clout, but they have company. It should make for a very competitive season.:)
 
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ARM said:
We talked about similar issues last season in the Rutter thread, around about here:
Again, I don't think it is as clear cut that the BU trio stands above any three returning/incoming players at any other school, just like I didn't think it is a given that Agosta will be the single player having the most impact next season. It is within the realm of possibility that another school in the city of Boston or another team wearing red and white could get more impact from 3 additions than the Terriers.

For discussion, here are some other possible contending teams and a guess at candidates for "3 most impactful additions":

BC -- Schaus, Stack, Mangene (or one of their other U18 vets);
Clarkson -- Rattray, Howe, Nisbet;
Cornell -- Johnston, Jenner, J. Campbell;
Harvard -- Fry, Gedman, Young;
MC -- Agosta, Bestland, Cicero;
UM -- Davis, Kessel, Schoullis;
UMD -- Holmlov, Irwin, Martin;
UND -- Karvinen, Lam, Lam;
UNH -- don't know enough about them for even a wild guess;:o
UW -- Duggan, Knight, Rigsby;

So I agree that BU is bringing in a lot of clout, but they have company. It should make for a very competitive season.:)
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Have believed this for forty years and still do - they all look good on paper. It's fun to speculate, though, and I really enjoy threads such as this one.
 
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ARM said:
For discussion, here are some other possible contending teams and a guess at candidates for "3 most impactful additions":

BC -- Schaus, Stack, Mangene (or one of their other U18 vets);
Clarkson -- Rattray, Howe, Nisbet;
Cornell -- Johnston, Jenner, J. Campbell;
Harvard -- Fry, Gedman, Young;
MC -- Agosta, Bestland, Cicero;
UM -- Davis, Kessel, Schoullis;
UMD -- Holmlov, Irwin, Martin;
UND -- Karvinen, Lam, Lam;
UNH -- don't know enough about them for even a wild guess;:o
UW -- Duggan, Knight, Rigsby;

So I agree that BU is bringing in a lot of clout, but they have company. It should make for a very competitive season.:)
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ARM, Thanks for that list. A great list of teams with a strong one two three punch of players adding to the team since last season. Agree that this will make for an exciting season to watch. IMHO it is wide open for the fight to the Final Four.

Please note that Irwin at UMD should not count, as she did play part of the season last year.

So with that in mind, I see the following as the top end 1-2-3 incoming punch:

BU - Ward, Poulin, Wakefield
Cornell - Jenner, Johnston, Campbell
Wisco - Duggan, Knight, Rigsby
 
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OnMAA said:
Please note that Irwin at UMD should not count, as she did play part of the season last year.
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You're thinking of Jocelyne Larocque, the player that returned to play only one semester of her junior season. In hindsight, a great move, as her addition made them a much better team than they'd been in the first half.

OnMAA said:
So with that in mind, I see the following as the top end 1-2-3 incoming punch:

BU - Ward, Poulin, Wakefield
Cornell - Jenner, Johnston, Campbell
Wisco - Duggan, Knight, Rigsby
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I'd put UMD at #1, because all three of their "new" players have an understanding of what it takes to win a ring in D-I. The BU group may have more talent, but they will all be adjusting to a new team. If we expand the list to four, I'd say UMD again, because Winberg would have an edge over the 4th player in any of the other groups.
 
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ARM said:
You're thinking of Jocelyne Larocque, the player that returned to play only one semester of her junior season. In hindsight, a great move, as her addition made them a much better team than they'd been in the first half.

I'd put UMD at #1, because all three of their "new" players have an understanding of what it takes to win a ring in D-I. The BU group may have more talent, but they will all be adjusting to a new team. If we expand the list to four, I'd say UMD again, because Winberg would have an edge over the 4th player in any of the other groups.
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Ummh Yeah my bad, :o :o :o :o .....I'm in summer not thinking clearly mode.....So you are right, with Irwin as part of the UMD 1-2-3, UMD is clearly in this top echelon of teams with the more premium 1-2-3 incomer set.

And for what it is worth, saw Irwin play live against the US earlier in the exhibition series, and then again later on on the tube in the Final, and IMHO she clearly stepped up her game a notch or two in the final. That can only bode well for her and UMD in the upcoming season. IMHO Irwin, Knight and Agosta will all be strong candidates for the Patty Katz going into the season.
 
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These may be good 1,2,3 discussions, but how about the incoming/returning 4,5,6 factors as well. Wisco has a huge factor in MJ, plus new freshman players Packer a 2-time U-18 Gold medalist and Asst Captain and the younger Ammermann a U-18 Gold and Silver medalist and Captain. Both players would be on most other schools top 3. MJ in my opinion is the biggest incoming factor of the whole lot. He and Wisco have a lot to prove after last year's poor performance.
 
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granddaddyscout said:
MJ in my opinion is the biggest incoming factor of the whole lot.
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I agree with that. Northeastern also gets their coach back after an Olympic absence. Plus there are a number of staffs that have been shuffled to some degree. Big factors to be sure, although most would agree that they don't really fall within the domain of "best incoming classes". And I think one could make a good case that Knight/Duggan/Rigsby may in actually have the biggest impact of any three players. Duggan brings a lot to that Badger squad that isn't necessarily evident in any stat.
 
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granddaddyscout said:
These may be good 1,2,3 discussions, but how about the incoming/returning 4,5,6 factors as well. Wisco has a huge factor in MJ, plus new freshman players Packer a 2-time U-18 Gold medalist and Asst Captain and the younger Ammermann a U-18 Gold and Silver medalist and Captain. Both players would be on most other schools top 3. MJ in my opinion is the biggest incoming factor of the whole lot. He and Wisco have a lot to prove after last year's poor performance.
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I was thinking the same thing while reading the posts. I think for several teams those returning 4, 5 & 6 (and beyond) players are going to turn out to be big factors...and I think UW could be the prime example of those teams.
 
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ARM said:
I agree with that. Northeastern also gets their coach back after an Olympic absence. Plus there are a number of staffs that have been shuffled to some degree. Big factors to be sure, although most would agree that they don't really fall within the domain of "best incoming classes". And I think one could make a good case that Knight/Duggan/Rigsby may in actually have the biggest impact of any three players. Duggan brings a lot to that Badger squad that isn't necessarily evident in any stat.
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Agree on all points, "Best incoming class" generally refers to the freshman class and doesn't include players returning from LOAs or transfers either. So it seems the discussion was more about program improvements year to year. Given that the return of MJ is a big factor as is the depth of the WISCO additions. I put them and BU at the top of the heap based on improvements overall year to year.
 
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Late add due to injuries/opportunity

The Ohio State University
Lyndsey Brown.......G.......MN Thoroughbreds/Irondale HS.......Moundsview, MN
 
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Interesting did OSU lose goalies to injury or players not returning - odd to have two late adds?

Is Loren Carrier from AZ?
 
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This is a look at this class after year 3 from a MN perspective. It might help some parents think about women college hockey at the D1 level. The I think the class was 176 players. I have followed/tracked the 37 from MN. After year 3 a total of 27 of the 37 are still playing D1 Hockey. The list is by school/player. This is as of today so players still playing will have higher numbers.

Class of 2010-2011 Results Year 1 & Year 2 & Year 3
Results from USHOC after Year 3: 27 of 37 still in D1 Hockey - 73%
37 Minnesota Girls out of 176 to D1 - 9 schools had no MN Recruits
Bemidji State * - 4 Allie Duellman, D, (Roseville) Maplewood, MN 2010-11 30 GP 1 G 1 A 2 Pts 12 PIM 2011-12 GP 3 G 0 A 0 Pts 0 2 PIM 2012-13 GP 20 1 G 3 A 4 Pts 6 PIM
Bemidji State * - 4 Danielle Williams, D/F, (MN Thoroughbreds), Waconia, MN 2010-11 GP 32 G 1 A 1 Pts 2 12 PIM 2011-12 GP 36 G 2 A 1 Pts 3 PIM 18 2012-13 GP 30 0 G 3 A 3 Pts 8 PIM
Maine - 4/transfer Bemidji/transfer D3 Bethel Kristi King, F (Stillwater) 2010-11 Maine 27 GP 2 G 1 A 3 Pts 8 PIM 2011-12 Bemidji GP 31 G 2 A 1 Pts 3 PIM 10 Did not play
Boston College - 4
Boston University - 3 Meghan Riggs, F, Eden Prairie 2010-11 28 GP 1 G, 1 A 2 Pts, 4 PIM 2011-12 GP 29 G 0 A 0 Pts 0 PIM 0 2012-13 GP 2 0 G 0 A 0 Pts 0 PIM
Brown - 6
Clarkson - 8
Colgate - 7
Connecticut - 7/transfer D3 St. Thomas Jenny Saxon, F,(Wayzata), Wayzata, MN 2010-11 35 GP 1 G 2 A 3 Pts 8 PIM 2011-12 D3 St. Thomas 20 GP 7 G 6 A 13 Pts. 22 PIM 2012-13 GP 20 1 G 7 A 8 Pts 6 PIM
Connecticut - 7/transfer Lindenwood Jocelyn Slattery, F, (Centennial), Centerville, MN 2010-2011 34 GP 4 G 7 A 11 Pts 14 PIM 2011-12 34 GP 6 G 8 A 14 Pts 20 PIM 2012-13 Lindenwood GP 34 1 G 8 A 9 Pts 32 PIM
Cornell - 5
Dartmouth - 4/left team transferred Ellie Gleason, D, (Edina), Edina, MN 2010-11 4 GP 0 A 0 G 0 Pts 4 PIM
Harvard - 7/ left team Lauren Joarnt, G,(SSM), White Bear Lake, MN 4 Games 177:54 Min 9 GA 52 Saves 61 Shots .852 SP% 3.04 GAA 1-1-1 Record
Harvard - 7 Gina McDonald, F,(USA 18s/Irondale),New Brighton, MN 2010-11 32 GP 2 G 4 A 6 Pts 10 PIM, 2011-12 32 GP 12 G 9 A 21 Pts 6 PIM 2012-13 GP 33 1 G 5 A 6 Pts 8 PIM
Holy Cross - 1
Minnesota * - 6 Bethany Brausen, F, (Roseville), Little Canada, MN 2010-11 38 GP 2 G 7 A 9 Pts 18 PIM 2011-12 41 GP 6 G 3 A 9 Pts 6 PIM 2012-13 GP 38 4 G 12 A 16 Pts 10 PIM
Minnesota * - 6/ left team injury Ashley Stenerson, F/D, (Moorhead), Moorhead, MN 2010-11 35 GP 1 G 0 A 1 Pts 2 PIM
Minnesota-Duluth* - 5 Dana Gallop, F, (USA 18s/GRG), Grand Rapids, MN 2010-11 34 GP 1 G 2 A 3 Pts 6 PIM 2011-12 30 GP 0 G 0 A 0 Pts 6 PIM 2012-13 GP 30 0 G 1 A 1 Pts 2 PIM
Minnesota State* - 7 Kari Lundberg, F, (Minnesota Thoroughbreds), Woodbury, MN 2010-11 34 GP 1 G 5 A 6 Pts 4 PIM 2011-12 36 GP 9 G 8 A 17 Pts 4 PIM 2012-13 GP 36 2 G 8 A 10 Pts 12 PIM
Minnesota State* - 7 Danielle Scholzien,D, (Blaine), Blaine, MN 2010-11 18 GP 0 G 1 A 1 Pts 8 PIM, 2011-12 30 GP 0 G 1 A 1 Pts 26 PIM 2012-13 GP 33 0 G 3 A 3 Pts 43 PIM
Mercyhurst - 2/transfer Mankato Lauren Barnes, F,(Burnsville), Burnsville, MN 31 GP 0 G 8 A 8 Pts 4 PIM 2011-12 36 GP 4 G A 14 Pts 18 22 PIM 2012-13 GP 35 3 G 11 A 14 Pts 47 PIM
New Hampshire - 5
Niagara - 5 - transfer to Lindenwood Chelsea Witwicke, D, (Roseville), Roseville, MN 2010-11 27 GP 0 G 1 A 1 Pts 6 PIM 2011-12 28 GP 0 G 4 A 4 Pts 10 PIM 2012-13 Lindenwood GP 35 2 G 11 A 13 Pts 4 PIM
North Dakota - 2 Michelle Bonapace-Potvin, G, (Rochester), Rochester, MN 2010-11 No Game Info 2011-12 2 GP 0 GA 7 Saves 29 Min 2013-13 1 GP 1 GA 5 Saves 4 Min
Northeastern* - 8/transfer D3 Hamline Corinne Henning, F,(Culver ), St. Paul, MN 2010-11 26 GP 0 G 0 A 0 Pts 0 PIM D3 Hamline 2011-12 23 GP 7 G 8 A 15 Pts 12 PIM 2012-13 GP 22 4 G 9 A 13 Pts 2 PIM
Ohio State - 4 Maddie Marcotte, D, (White Bear), White Bear Lake, MN - 2010-11 15 GP 0 G 0 A 0 Pts 4 PIM 2011-12 36 GP 1 G 6 A 7 Pts 6 PIM 2012-13 GP 4 0 G 0 A 0 Pts 0 PIM
Ohio State - 4/transfer D3 St Anselm Lyndsey Brown, G, MN Thoroughbreds, Moundsview, MN 2010-11 No Info D3 St Anselm 2011-12 2 GP 2 W 9 SV 0.00 GA 1.00 SV% 2013-13 18 GP 26 GA 327 Saves 1025 Min 13-2-2
Princeton - 5 Rose Alleva, D, (Red Wing), Red Wing, MN 2010-11 31 GP 0 G 4 A 4 Pts 25 PIM 2011-12 26 GP 2 G 6 A 8 Pts 12 PIM 2012-13 GP 29 1 G 10 A 11 Pts 10 PIM
Providence* - 5 Corinne Buie, F, (Edina), Edina, MN 2010-11 34 GP 11 G 13 A 24 Pts 24 PIM 2011-12 37 GP 11 G 15 A 26 Pts 32 PIM 2012-13 GP 35 15 G 11 A 26 Pts 14 PIM
Providence* - 5 Maggie Pendleton, D, (Hill Murray), Woodbury, MN 2010-11 GP 34 0 G 2 A 2 Pts 16 PIM 2011-12 36 GP 3 G 9 A 12 Pts 22 PIM 2012-13 GP 36 3 G 16 A 19 Pts 20 PIM
Quinnipiac - 8/transfer no info? Lindsey Burman, F, (Minnesota Thoroughbreds), Cambidge, MN 2010-11 35 GP 2 G 2 A 4 Pts 18 PIM Did not play Did not play
Quinnipiac - 8 Amanda Colin, F (Burnsville), Burnsville, MN 2010-11 37 GP 7 G 8 A 15 Pts 14 PIM 2011-12 37 GP 7 G 6 A 13 Pts 18 PIM 2012-13 GP 36 3 G 5 A 8 Pts 18 PIM
RMU - 6
RPI - 5 Missy Mankey, F, (Hopkins), Coon Rpids MN 2010-11 33 GP 0 G 1 A 1 Pts O PIM 2011-12 21 GP 0 G 0 A 0 Pts 2 PIM 2012-13 GP 17 1 G 0 A 1 Pts 0 PIM
RPI - 5 Madison Marzario, D, (SSM), Prior Lake, MN 2010-11 35 GP 1 G 4 A 5 Pts 42 PIM 2011-12 33 GP 3 G 6 A 9 Pts 32 PIM 2012-13 GP 35 0 G 4 A 4 Pts 46 PIM
St. Cloud State - 6 Julia Gilbert, F, (Proctor/Hermantown/Marshall) 2010-11 35 GP 6 G 5 A 11 Pts 16 PIM 2011-12 36 GP 2 G 7 A 9 Pts 28 PIM 2012-13 GP 32 4 G 3 A 7 Pts 10 PIM
St. Cloud State - 6 Amanda Monkman, D, (Roseau), Roseau, MN - 2010-11 34 GP 0 G 1 A 1 6 PIM 2011-12 34 GP 0 G 1 A 1 Pts 12 PIM 2012-13 GP 12 0 G 0 A 0 Pts 0 PIM
St. Cloud State - 6 Amy Olson, F, (Roseau), Roseau, MN - 2010-11 34 GP 0 G 2 A 2 Pts 18 PIM 2011-12 8 GP 0 G 0 A 0 Pts 10 PIM 2012-13 GP 33 0 G 4 A 4 Pts 10 PIM
St. Lawrence - 6
Syracuse - 6 Kallie Billadeau, G, (Hopkins), Minnetonka, MN 2010-11 22 GP 7 W 11 L 3 T 2.8358 GA .908 SP% 2011-12 GP 21 W 5 L 13 T 2 GA 2.8358 SP% .908 SP% 2012-13 25 GP 16 W 9 L 1.5569 GA .940 SP%
Syracuse - 6 Cara Johnson, F, (Hopkins), Wayzata, MN 2010-11 36 GP 2 G 5 A 7 Pts 18 PIM 2011-12 34 GP 0 G 2 A 2 Pts 8 PIM 2012-13 GP 36 0 G 4 A 4 Pts 22 PIM
Syracuse - 6 Christine LaCombe, D, (Eden Prairie), Eden Prairie, MN 2010-11 34 GP 0 G 9 A 9 Pts 26 PIM 2011-12 10 GP 1 G 0 A 1 Pts 2 PIM 2012-13 no games played
Syracuse - 6 Sam Press, F, Tabor, Chanhassen 2010-11 8 GP 0 G 0 A 0 Pts 0 PIM 2011-12 16 GP 0 G 0 A 0 Pts 2 PIM 2012-13 no games played
Union - 4 Elsa Bruestle, F, (White Bear), White Bear Lake, MN 2010-11 28 GP 1 G 1 A 2 Pts 16 PIM 2011-12 3 GP 0 G 1 A 1 Pts 8 PIM 2012-13 GP 27 0 G 1 A 1 Pts 0 PIM
Vermont - 4 Megan Dalbec, D, (Champlin Park), Champlin, MN 2010-2011 32 GP 0 G 1 A 1 Pts 10 PIM 2011-12 30 GP 1 G 7 A 8 Pts 8 PIM 2012-13 GP 33 0 G 4 A 4 Pts 26 PIM
Vermont - 4 Kellie Dineen, F, (SSM), Faribault, MN 31 GP 2 G 2 A 4 Pts 22 PIM 2011-12 32 GP 8 G 4 A 12 Pts 32 PIM 2012-13 GP 31 6 G 6 A 12 Pts 14 PIM
Wisconsin* - 5 Laurel Miller, D, (Totino Grace), Ramsey, MN 2010-11 26 GP 0 G 0 A 0 Pts 4 PIM 2011-12 39 GP 1 G 4 A 5 Pts 0 PIM 2012-13 no games played
 
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joehockey said:
This is a look at this class after year 3 from a MN perspective. It might help some parents think about women college hockey at the D1 level. The I think the class was 176 players. I have followed/tracked the 37 from MN. After year 3 a total of 27 of the 37 are still playing D1 Hockey. The list is by school/player. This is as of today so players still playing will have higher numbers.
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Couple of comments:
2010-2011 class was 209.
By Country - 115 USA, 90 Canada, 4 International
Top suppliers by Province/State.
Ontario - 57
Minnesota - 39
Massachusetts - 13
No one else over - 8.

There were some numbers posted a few years ago about typical attrition. About 30-35 percent of players from an annual D1 recruit class do not play hockey for their recruit school by year 4. Some quit hockey, some transfer and some simply get cut.

One of our D is in this same class, and at her school ALL 7 recruits from that class are still rostered AND playing going into year 4, something that is an exception, rather than the norm for that school.
 
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