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Re: COVID-19 The 7th Part: We're Gonna Be Number One Soon!
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COVID-19 The 7th Part: We're Gonna Be Number One Soon!
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I did leave out the negative portion of that report, which is that they’re expecting possibly even worse pollution than before, at least in the short term, following the lockdown as manufacturing tries to play catch-up.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is just wild: Some experts think that the 49ers blowing their Super Bowl lead could have saved lives, because the loss kept SF from hosting a championship parade a few days later that could've spread the virus <a href="https://t.co/32d1UT8QnT">https://t.co/32d1UT8QnT</a></p>— Mark Berman (@markberman) <a href="https://twitter.com/markberman/status/1250055911776944128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is just wild: Some experts think that the 49ers blowing their Super Bowl lead could have saved lives, because the loss kept SF from hosting a championship parade a few days later that could've spread the virus <a href="https://t.co/32d1UT8QnT">https://t.co/32d1UT8QnT</a></p>— Mark Berman (@markberman) <a href="https://twitter.com/markberman/status/1250055911776944128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Re: COVID-19 The 7th Part: We're Gonna Be Number One Soon!
Understandable. And I would think that is a short term problem during the crisis. Long term I do think there are at least some positives that can come of this. The other being this is what happens when you get caught with your pants down (although it's not like we are the only country that has been hit hard by this). Perhaps this leads to major reform in terms of how the world handles this type of situation rather than just the US. There needs to be more coordination with the CDC/WHO, more transparency, communication, etc.
For the US, too much has been put on governors/mayors (although in this case it's probably best we have those people leading the way!). I'm all for small government but this is something that should be directed by the federal government. They should be in charge of obtaining all resources and distributing based on need for something like this. The bidding wars over resources has been embarrassing. An early nationwide two week shutdown would have been far more beneficial than the state by state approach based on once you are already in crisis mode. And yes, a two week national shutdown hurts the economy but I can't imagine it would hurt it more than what we have seen with this prolonged problem. I am not an economist but I am sure that is being studied as well.
Understandable. And I would think that is a short term problem during the crisis. Long term I do think there are at least some positives that can come of this. The other being this is what happens when you get caught with your pants down (although it's not like we are the only country that has been hit hard by this). Perhaps this leads to major reform in terms of how the world handles this type of situation rather than just the US. There needs to be more coordination with the CDC/WHO, more transparency, communication, etc.
For the US, too much has been put on governors/mayors (although in this case it's probably best we have those people leading the way!). I'm all for small government but this is something that should be directed by the federal government. They should be in charge of obtaining all resources and distributing based on need for something like this. The bidding wars over resources has been embarrassing. An early nationwide two week shutdown would have been far more beneficial than the state by state approach based on once you are already in crisis mode. And yes, a two week national shutdown hurts the economy but I can't imagine it would hurt it more than what we have seen with this prolonged problem. I am not an economist but I am sure that is being studied as well.
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Re: COVID-19 The 7th Part: We're Gonna Be Number One Soon!
I read that overall they are expecting drops near 5% worldwide (largest since WW2) but yeah it will be short term at best and they dont expect much change after things open up fully. Hey though any little victory will be nice...
I read that overall they are expecting drops near 5% worldwide (largest since WW2) but yeah it will be short term at best and they dont expect much change after things open up fully. Hey though any little victory will be nice...
JF_Gophers
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Think of the coal miners children!
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Haha!
But, taking a serious look, in the whole United States there are just 54,000 coal miners.
More people were laid off by IBM in 1993 than would be if we told the entire coal industry to get bent.
Also single corporations who laid off similar as IBM:
Citigroup, 2008; 50,000
Sears, 1993; 50,000
GM, 2009; 47,000
AT&T, 1996; 40,000
Ford, 2002; 35,000
But yet, so much handwringing over 50k coal miners over countless companies who could assign them other mining jobs (likely).
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Electric cars are basically burning coal, and natural gas, with some added middle men for transport and refining. Plus they use giant batteries that are not really easy to produce or recycle responsibly. As things are now, electric is far less environmentally friendly than just burning the gas right in the car. Unless you're saying, "poor kids", because all those miners will be working overtime to support the power draw.
We need to build a bunch of nuke plants.
Electric cars are basically burning coal, and natural gas, with some added middle men for transport and refining. Plus they use giant batteries that are not really easy to produce or recycle responsibly. As things are now, electric is far less environmentally friendly than just burning the gas right in the car. Unless you're saying, "poor kids", because all those miners will be working overtime to support the power draw.
We need to build a bunch of nuke plants.
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Re: COVID-19 The 7th Part: We're Gonna Be Number One Soon!
They're basically burning coal and natural gas because that's what is generating the electricity, right? If over time electricity is more created from renewable fuels, then electric cars would essentially be "burning" those, would they not? And while I understand we're not there yet, that would be the ultimate goal, that electric cars would be fueled by more renewable fuels that way, whereas gas-powered cars always need gas by definition.
They're basically burning coal and natural gas because that's what is generating the electricity, right? If over time electricity is more created from renewable fuels, then electric cars would essentially be "burning" those, would they not? And while I understand we're not there yet, that would be the ultimate goal, that electric cars would be fueled by more renewable fuels that way, whereas gas-powered cars always need gas by definition.
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Yeah, I mean, aren't a lot of power plants producing electricity with a lot of renewables now? It's not all coal.
Yeah, I mean, aren't a lot of power plants producing electricity with a lot of renewables now? It's not all coal.
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And shuttting down USPS would be around 600k
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It's 30% coal, 35% NG, and 20% nukes. We've got miles and miles to go before buying an electric car makes any sense.
It's 30% coal, 35% NG, and 20% nukes. We've got miles and miles to go before buying an electric car makes any sense.
ScoobyDoo
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Ugh. That is the stupidest idea the Republicans have ever had in a portfolio full of stupid ideas.
Ugh. That is the stupidest idea the Republicans have ever had in a portfolio full of stupid ideas.
Kepler
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Re: COVID-19 The 7th Part: We're Gonna Be Number One Soon!
That was before meth mouth, a.k.a. "flyover fluoride."
Updated:
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That was before meth mouth, a.k.a. "flyover fluoride."
Updated:
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Re: COVID-19 The 7th Part: We're Gonna Be Number One Soon!
I don't think this has been posted here, apologies to whoever did if it has, but this is a very detailed timeline of all the actions/inactions that led to this being such a total clusterfork. https://www.justsecurity.org/69650/timeline-of-the-coronavirus-pandemic-and-u-s-response/
I don't think this has been posted here, apologies to whoever did if it has, but this is a very detailed timeline of all the actions/inactions that led to this being such a total clusterfork. https://www.justsecurity.org/69650/timeline-of-the-coronavirus-pandemic-and-u-s-response/
Re: COVID-19 The 7th Part: We're Gonna Be Number One Soon!
it totally depends on where you live. I read a research paper that compared pollution generated by electric cars accounting for battery production and charging vs gasoline (I have no idea where to find this now, sorry).
it concluded that in countries or states with cleaner than average energy the electric cars were better environmentally. If it's a coal-heavy state then no.
it totally depends on where you live. I read a research paper that compared pollution generated by electric cars accounting for battery production and charging vs gasoline (I have no idea where to find this now, sorry).
it concluded that in countries or states with cleaner than average energy the electric cars were better environmentally. If it's a coal-heavy state then no.
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