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COVID-19 The 7th Part: We're Gonna Be Number One Soon!

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Broke the 2000 dead barrier for the first time.

13,000 dead for the month of April. A week and a half.

Just like the flu.

But Obama did such a ****ty job with the swine flu. More dead in a week and a half than died of the swine flu in a year.

As I asked of the efftards in the other thread, if Obama did such a ****ty job with that, as their Dear Leader Dimwit Donnie has proclaimed, and I'm sure they all agree with, what does that make this response?

None of them ever bothered to try to answer. Just ignore the inconvenient stuff. Just like Dimwit Donnie does.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trump: "They develop drugs like the antibiotics. You see it. Antibiotics used to solve every problem. Now one of the biggest problems the world has is the germ has gotten to brilliant that the antibiotic can't keep up with it."<br><br>Of note: The coronavirus is a virus.</p>— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) <a href="https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1248708600245043200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

My health students know more than he does about how a virus functions....:rolleyes:
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This week, in only 4 days, we had the biggest Stock Market increase since 1974. We have a great chance for the really big bounce when the Invisible Enemy is gone!</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1248574029289619458?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Someone please tell the ****ing ******** that testing makes the enemy visible. It's a very simple equation. Even a child can understand it.

16 million people lost their job, but the stock market's up.
 
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We'd been flirting with it for a week.

I know. 1800-1900 deaths a day for a week. Finally crossed the 2000 mark. Where does it go from here?

Meanwhile, South Korea has 208 dead. Total. Had their first reported case the same day we did.
 
Broke the 2000 dead barrier for the first time.

13,000 dead for the month of April. A week and a half.

Just like the flu.

But Obama did such a ****ty job with the swine flu. More dead in a week and a half than died of the swine flu in a year.

As I asked of the efftards in the other thread, if Obama did such a ****ty job with that, as their Dear Leader Dimwit Donnie has proclaimed, and I'm sure they all agree with, what does that make this response?

None of them ever bothered to try to answer. Just ignore the inconvenient stuff. Just like Dimwit Donnie does.

“ In 2018 and 2019, Trump's family took more than three times as many Secret Service-protected trips as Obama's family did from 2010 to 2016.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/04/10/secret-service-has-protected-trump-family-members-4000-trips-three-years/

Brain dead morons will find a way to spin
 
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Wall Street likes reduced labor costs and infusions of free money from the Fed.

Deaths actually strengthen labor's bargaining position.

There's a school of thought that the first, pre-industrial, economic explosion of the West from 1350-1750 was caused by the plague. Afterwards, people had the upper hand in negotiating for their labor. They won the right to be freed from the land, to establish guilds and free cities with guarantees of non-interference from the lords and tax exemption from the king, and had the power to overturn established industries and break up state monopolies.

Most social reforms and revolutions come from the displacement of disasters because those are moments when the rich and powerful are taken off guard and cannot crush reform movements with overwhelming violence.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I did not stockpile enough bourbon for this. <a href="https://t.co/cFg4C7duX0">https://t.co/cFg4C7duX0</a></p>— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) <a href="https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/1248730004080525312?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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“ In 2018 and 2019, Trump's family took more than three times as many Secret Service-protected trips as Obama's family did from 2010 to 2016.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...-trump-family-members-4000-trips-three-years/

Brain dead morons will find a way to spin

At the risk of sounding like a brain dead moron...could that possibly have to do with him having adult children vs. the Obamas having 2 teenagers?

I would probably expect the Trumps to travel more on their own vs. Sasha and Malia. Wasn't able to read the article since it's behind a paywall.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I did not stockpile enough bourbon for this. <a href="https://t.co/cFg4C7duX0">https://t.co/cFg4C7duX0</a></p>— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) <a href="https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/1248730004080525312?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

A week or two ago I suggested here that social distancing and shelter in place decisions were better made locally (on a state by state basis) and was roundly abused for that opinion. Wonder if anyone will reconsider (I’m not going to hold my breath waiting for people to admit I was right.)
 
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A week or two ago I suggested here that social distancing and shelter in place decisions were better made locally (on a state by state basis) and was roundly abused for that opinion. Wonder if anyone will reconsider (I’m not going to hold my breath waiting for people to admit I was right.)

No, there still should still be a Federal stay at home order. That hasn't happened in this crisis because of the lack of leadership in the White House and we are all worse off for it. Thankfully the president can not order governors to open their states back open, so we do have the fall back of states not listening to the Orange moron and keeping their stay at home orders in place. But having sections of the country opened up again (since certain sycophantic governors will certainly open back up) increases the risk of the virus popping back up everywhere.
 
No, there still should still be a Federal stay at home order. That hasn't happened in this crisis because of the lack of leadership in the White House and we are all worse off for it. Thankfully the president can not order governors to open their states back open, so we do have the fall back of states not listening to the Orange moron and keeping their stay at home orders in place. But having sections of the country opened up again (since certain sycophantic governors will certainly open back up) increases the risk of the virus popping back up everywhere.

So, basically, there should be a nationwide decision, unless I don’t agree with it. Then it should be state by state.
 
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The feds likely have no authority for a nationwide stay at home order. Nor do they have the authority to declare them over.

That said, they should absolutely recommend all states implement one.
 
A week or two ago I suggested here that social distancing and shelter in place decisions were better made locally (on a state by state basis) and was roundly abused for that opinion. Wonder if anyone will reconsider (I’m not going to hold my breath waiting for people to admit I was right.)
I genuinely don’t understand why you think this would make anyone reconsider. Local restrictions are good, federal restrictions are better. Nothing in this tautological ramble from Trump changes that. Sure, he has absolute authority to say, “There is now no national shelter-in-place order!” Oh, wait - there has never even been one. So what the heck is he even talking about?
 
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So, basically, there should be a nationwide decision, unless I don’t agree with it. Then it should be state by state.

You don't seem to be understanding what I'm saying. The Federal Government does not have the authority to order states to rescind stay at home orders. They simply can't do it.

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The feds likely have no authority for a nationwide stay at home order. Nor do they have the authority to declare them over.

That said, they should absolutely recommend all states implement one.

Fair. But yes, you know certain governors are just going to blindly follow Trump's lead. During a pandemic you're only as strong as your weakest link, and certain states opening back up makes that pretty weak. We already know people spread out from Florida and spread infections during Spring Break because their governor stupidly didn't shut it down until it was too late.
 
A week or two ago I suggested here that social distancing and shelter in place decisions were better made locally (on a state by state basis) and was roundly abused for that opinion. Wonder if anyone will reconsider (I’m not going to hold my breath waiting for people to admit I was right.)

While I certainly think many decisions are best left to state, I don’t think this one is when many governors are blindly following trump. I think if George W said all states should implement, we’d probably be fine. But George had some experts advising him.
 
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