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COVID-19 - Part 2

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Whalers said:
Just saw in the mirror that your post name is sufur, and that is what all of us are doing when we read your drivel. The H1N1 totals did not OCCUR over the year, but 2 - 2-1/2 months. First reported in Mid April 2009 and over by mid to late june. The WUHAN Virus cases in the US started in mid to late February so we are almost 7 weeks in. Dont let selective usage of dates skew your figures.

Can I ask what did you do during the lockdown for the H1N1 outbreak? Was your business deemed essential or did you have to work from home while the kids remote schooled during the state quarantines? I remember the hysteria of the time as depicted on the chilling CNN and MSNBC reports. Was it Wolf Blitzer who kept hitting Barry with all of those "why werent you better prepared gothcas"? :D
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Think about what you just posted for a second. There were no lockdowns or overly special considerations made for H1N1, and the number of deaths from it over 10-12 weeks will STILL be less than two weeks of COVID-19 at it's peak with social distancing and all kinds of businesses shut down and stay at home orders issued. Conservative, best-case estimates of the death toll of COVID-19 is still predicted to be between 6-7 times as deadly as H1N1 with all the aforementioned restrictions in place.
 
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Darius said:
The interesting thing to me and yes I know the rate of increase varies day to day, but the mortality rate continues to increase. Two weeks ago I figured it would have been decreasing rapidly because of increased testing. The Drs. keep saying we are in for a rough two weeks.
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What increased testing?
 
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Whalers said:
Just saw in the mirror that your post name is sufur, and that is what all of us are doing when we read your drivel. The H1N1 totals did not OCCUR over the year, but 2 - 2-1/2 months. First reported in Mid April 2009 and over by mid to late june. The WUHAN Virus cases in the US started in mid to late February so we are almost 7 weeks in. Dont let selective usage of dates skew your figures.

Can I ask what did you do during the lockdown for the H1N1 outbreak? Was your business deemed essential or did you have to work from home while the kids remote schooled during the state quarantines? I remember the hysteria of the time as depicted on the chilling CNN and MSNBC reports. Was it Wolf Blitzer who kept hitting Barry with all of those "why werent you better prepared gothcas"? :D
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Oh, the stupid, it burns. I will admit my stupid, I said 2012 instead of 2009.

let's see what the CDC says.

https://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/estimates/April_March_13.htm

CDC estimates that between about 8,720 and 18,050 2009 H1N1-related deaths occurred between April 2009 and March 13, 2010. The mid-level in this range is about 12,270 2009 H1N1-related deaths.
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From April to October. Not June, but October. That would be four months for the stupid out there. Yeah, I'm referring to you, Whalers. Oh what a sad username.

CDC estimated that between about 2,500 and 6,000 2009 H1N1-related deaths occurred between April and October 17, 2009. The mid-level in this range was about 3,900 2009 H1N1-related deaths.
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Also, for the mouth-breathers out there(yes, you again, Whalers), the first death in the US from Covfefe-19 was on Feb. 29. So ok, you got me, it took five weeks for Dumpie's death toll to reach the 12,000 mark. My bad.

11 more months of this to go. Might get ugly.
 
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Another thing to keep in mind, while we're talking about H1N1, is that the final death count is an approximation by the CDC - and it's much higher than the day to day tracking by states during the outbreak (which is how we currently are tracking the COVID deaths) showed.

In November of 2009, six months after the outbreak began, the official death count of H1N1 was approximately 4,000 people. The final accepted number would end up more than three times that.
 
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Someone, I assume a Trumper who doesn't like hearing inconvenient information, I'm assuming he of the unfortunate, pathetic username of Whaler, just repped me and asked "why don't I give up on the name-calling?"

To which I reply, "why don't you blow me?"
 
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rufus said:
Someone, I assume a Trumper who doesn't like hearing inconvenient information, I'm assuming he of the unfortunate, pathetic username of Whaler, just repped me and asked "why don't I give up on the name-calling?"

To which I reply, "why don't you blow me?"
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You have to do better than this.
 
Chuck Murray said:
Don't any of you folks have jobs?
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Bought Clinton, sold Bush, bought Obama, sold Trump this Jan when it was clear he was gonna screw the Covid pooch. So yeah, I put my money where my mouth is. Retired on 3/31/20.

Chuck, if you pay attention and have a functioning cortex (and don’t watch Fox News) you can make a killing. The market doesn’t care if the President thinks 15 cases will go to zero. The market knows better.
 
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Darius said:
The interesting thing to me and yes I know the rate of increase varies day to day, but the mortality rate continues to increase. Two weeks ago I figured it would have been decreasing rapidly because of increased testing. The Drs. keep saying we are in for a rough two weeks.
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How does increased testing = lower mortality rate? If you are at risk and get it, a test doesn't help you get better at all. I don't think this is a sickness that early detection = less mortality like some cancers for instance, unless getting the malaria drug early reduces mortality rates?
 
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LynahFan said:
It's not just a primary. It's an actual election for state judges and many other things.
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The point brought up the primary and Republican's killing their own voters, so I directed my response to that. I know there are other things on the ballot, I just got back from voting. It was handled very well where I voted in the boonies, I could not be happier about how they set it up. That being said, they should have made it 100% absentee and moved the date back or just delayed it until July sometime and did the real thing. There's no way if I lived in Milwaukee I would have went out to vote under these conditions.
 
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Timothy A said:
How does increased testing = lower mortality rate? If you are at risk and get it, a test doesn't help you get better at all. I don't think this is a sickness that early detection = less mortality like some cancers for instance, unless getting the malaria drug early reduces mortality rates?
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It lowers the mortality rate, cause once someone is found to have it, they are quarantined so they aren't spreading it to two or more people, who might also die from it.

Jesus, are things like this really that difficult for you efftards to understand? I guess they must be. Or else you're just playing dumb to own the libs.

Here's one for you. Why don't you get corona to own the libs?

At this point though, I'm not sure how effective increased testing might be. we missed the window for that about two months or so ago. Thanks Obama.
 
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rufus said:
Like insurance salesmen?
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Part of my son's job is life insurance plus retirement things and he's working. Now is the time to write some life insurance policies. I bet there's lots of people who regret not thinking forward enough to get one. I guess the question is can they afford it? Term policies are very affordable.
 
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rufus said:
It lowers the mortality rate, cause once someone is found to have it, they are quarantined so they aren't spreading it to two or more people, who might also die from it.

Jesus, are things like this really that difficult for you efftards to understand? I guess they must be. Or else you're just playing dumb to own the libs.

Here's one for you. Why don't you get corona to own the libs?
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Dude, calm down.

Death rate does not equal death total. The only way what you describe would cause death rate to go up is if the people who contracted it were on average more likely to die than the person that gave it to them. As far as we know that's not the case. As I mentioned earlier, the death rate rises as the pandemic goes on because deaths is a lagging indicator (in that it generally comes ~1-2 weeks after showing symptoms).
 
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rufus said:
It lowers the mortality rate, cause once someone is found to have it, they are quarantined so they aren't spreading it to two or more people, who might also die from it.

Jesus, are things like this really that difficult for you efftards to understand? I guess they must be. Or else you're just playing dumb to own the libs.

Here's one for you. Why don't you get corona to own the libs?

At this point though, I'm not sure how effective increased testing might be. we missed the window for that about two months or so ago. Thanks Obama.
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Social distancing is supposed to be the key to stop the spread. If we all social distance, there isn't a need for testing then, because it won't spread.
 
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Timothy A said:
How does increased testing = lower mortality rate? If you are at risk and get it, a test doesn't help you get better at all. I don't think this is a sickness that early detection = less mortality like some cancers for instance, unless getting the malaria drug early reduces mortality rates?
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We were testing the sickest, so they'd have a higher mortality rate. Broader testing, ideally down to asymptomatic people, would result in a lower % of positives.
 
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