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Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020

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We’ve tracked a half million people inside & outside long term care.

No models… real data from CDC & MDH…

Survival rate outside long term care ~ 99.87%

Under age 60 ~ 99.97%

Children ~ 99.999%

Overall ~ 99.68%
 
French Rage said:
Jeb's mom is willing to be submissive if the client has 50 cents.
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When we want to assess our own risk from COVID, we need to look at the data at large and not be prey to anecdotal evidence like 'my friend's friend knows someone perfectly healthy who has died of COVID' I have highlighted for you the categories at risk.


Make people believe that they're suffering from something that has no symptom is the greatest trick ever aced.

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Honestly, I don't envy the folks who will have the job of going door-to-door and hoping they don't end up staring down the barrel of a gun as some anti-gubmint lunatic rants and raves about his rights.
 
The Sicatoka said:
About the Delta variant, the claim, by some, is it is more transmissible, but is it more deadly? Same question for this Lambda variant. I'm not finding lots of data on mortality of Delta or Lambda vs the baseline.

One expert* says this:

"So far we have seen no indication that the lambda variant is more aggressive," Jairo Mendez-Rico, a WHO virologist, told the Deutsche Welle. "It is possible that it may exhibit higher infection rates, but we don't yet have enough reliable data to compare it to gamma or delta." He told the German outlet that as SARS-CoV-2 evolves, it may start to become more transmissible, but not as deadly. (<-- that is the usual 'flight path' of most viruses.)


*My two favorite engineering definitions of "expert":
- anyone from more than 40 miles away, because if they drove that far they must know more than us, or
- X is the unknown factor, and spurt is a drip under pressure --> X-spurt.
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If it's more transmissible, it's more deadly. Plenty of studies out last year showing that it was worse for mortality for the virus to be more transmissible versus being more deadly. Infecting more hosts in a shorter period of time killed more people than the virus being deadlier within the host.
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Honestly, I don't envy the folks who will have the job of going door-to-door and hoping they don't end up staring down the barrel of a gun as some anti-gubmint lunatic rants and raves about his rights.
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Like that census dude who was murdered during the Tea Party Stupidity.
 
My favorite definition of an expert is when Prof. Sutton informed a reporter who asked a leading question about a bad hit that he didn't see it and therefore wasn't an expert. ;-)
 
WeAreNDHockey said:
Just be thankful things weren't so overwhelmingly political when vaccines to protect against Measles, Polio, Pertussis, Smallpox and a whole host of other disfiguring, crippling and deadly diseases were developed. There have always been crazies out there railing against vaccines, but it was a much smaller part of the world, and their voice was almost silent thanks to the fact social media as we know that term today was an unknown 50 and 75 and 100 years ago. But now EVERY. GOD. DAMN. THING. IS. POLITICAL.

Frankly I wish every last person out there who CHOOSES to forego a vaccination but could otherwise get one catches a bad case of COVID. Far more people than most are willing to admit only can be brought around with very harsh measures. And for those who think they need to read between the lines to catch my actual meaning, yes, I am wishing ill health or even death on those folks. The right-wing nowadays needs to be beaten over the head (both physically and metaphorically) to get even the most simple of messages. When you see a loved one struggle to gasp at a breath and their lungs burn when doing so, and they are terrified of dying, and you can literally see the fear in their faces, all because they refused to believe what were simple, knowable truths because they didn't jibe with their fucking politics, maybe then you'll see how wrong you all were.
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Mental Illness ^^^
 
Swansong said:
We don't know the answer to that right now. We've heard a firm "maybe" from infectious disease experts and the CEO of Pfizer said to assume boosters would be available (if not needed) this winter, but that was during a financial forecast meeting so not exactly a clinical statement.


So far, however, antibody and T-cell levels have been good enough for at least limited immunity in people infected very early in the pandemic, so we have at least that bit of data.
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Lmao
 
MichVandal said:
If you are trying to prevent people from getting vaccinated for some reason, go for it. Keep downplaying it, and letting people die in an incredibly preventable way. Seeing that ~99% of people who are now dying are not vaccinated, your movement is working perfectly.

(otherwise, what's your point?)
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Yes vaccinated elderly stopped dying because of Covid and are back to dying because of obesity, diabetes with complication, and the presence of multiple chronic conditions.

Which means #TeamCovid no longer cares.


The goal of propaganda is humiliation. The bigger the lie, the more humiliated you are when you accept it. The more humiliation, the more submissive you will become.
 
For those that still need to hear this again, healthy people without symptoms of disease are not the cause of your disease symptoms.

Your health is your responsibility.
 
Swansong said:
Don't quote the troll, but he's also ignoring the 18+ months of evidence that shows at least half the spread is from people without symptoms.

https://www.uchicagomedicine.org/for...cent-of-spread

But yes, keep ignoring these pesky facts and keep getting people sick. "Nuh uh!" is the entire message of the Right at the moment and it's embarrassing.
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The odds of fellow morons dying is just getting higher if they listen. At this point, just let him go for it.

It's pretty clear they just want death, in any way, since they are so happy to devour their own. Kind of ironic that they so refuse to take the dumpy vaccine.

I openly wonder, though, at this point how many dumpers who are getting sick even have health care- since they are so against everyone having it.
 
MichVandal said:
I openly wonder, though, at this point how many dumpers who are getting sick even have health care- since they are so against everyone having it.
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It's like everything else on the Right. The few rich who egg them on have every benefit: they have great health care, they are fully vaccinated, they get their kids the best education, they are completely tolerant of feminism and LGBTQ. They do lines of coke and they never go to church and the only reason they aren't fully atheist is it would be bad for their business connections. And then the mass of vegetables they have radicalized have none of this, live in squalor, and are perpetually in pain and blame that pain on immigrants, blacks, and women. And they'll be the ones who get sick and either die or carry horrific medical problems the rest of their lives.

The best revenge on the Right is the utter failure of their own lives, caused by themselves. They murder each other and their loves ones because they would rather hate than face reality. And they have been that way since Ashurbanipal.
 
Kepler said:
It's like everything else on the Right. The few rich who egg them on have every benefit: they have great health care, they are fully vaccinated, they get their kids the best education, they are completely tolerant of feminism and LGBTQ. They do lines of coke and they never go to church and the only reason they aren't fully atheist is it would be bad for their business connections. And then the mass of vegetables they have radicalized have none of this, live in squalor, and are perpetually in pain and blame that pain on immigrants, blacks, and women. And they'll be the ones who get sick and either die or carry horrific medical problems the rest of their lives.

The best revenge on the Right is the utter failure of their own lives, caused by themselves. They murder each other and their loves ones because they would rather hate than face reality. And they have been that way since Ashurbanipal.
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Here's the real odd thing- the rich that you talk about *might* have gotten the vaccine very early on, before it became SO political. Particularly the party leadership- it's VERY, VERY likely that most of the Racists who are telling people to not get a vaccine have been vaccinated since December.

Think about that for a second- Congress really was some of the earliest vaccinated. So how many of them who are out now telling people that the vaccine is such a bad thing to do have actually gotten vaccinated???? The hypocrisy to THEIR OWN FOLLOWERS! And the result isn't that they are hurting someone's feelings- this is very much a life and death equation, or if not that- a healthcare bankruptcy vs. being able to survive question.
 
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