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Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020
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They’ve been working on them since day one. The scientists aren’t the issue.
All women, between 18 and 48 years of age.
You know what else can cause blood clots? Birth control, but it's still used by millions of women every day.
there is a decent chance these women were also taking birth control
Our ability to shoot ourselves in the foot really is amazing. This gives tens of millions of people a great out as far as not getting a vaccine.
JF_Gophers
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Pausing vaccines is just going to destroy public confidence. Why are our leaders such idiots? Particularly given the extreme rarity of these side effects.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Shutting it down is insane. Appears to be young women related. So give that group a different vaccine and give J and J to the rest of us. I guess I'm glad I got mine done yesterday. My daughter is in that group and got J and J on Saturday. She looked at the math and is not worried about it.
Tens of millions of people were already not going to get the vaccine.
I think we're going to hit a point here in early to mid-May where it'll be as easy to get a Covid shot in this country as it is to buy a bag of chips. You'll be able to walk in and get one. We'll be begging people to get the shots, and we'll be at about 50% of the public vaccinated.
At that point, politicians are going to have a very interesting problem on their hands. There is still going to be Covid and hospitalizations and deaths, and maybe still at decent rates, but no one will be getting vaccinated anymore in any sort of volume. So now what do they do? Open things up fully?
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Agreed. I thought I read in the article that this was a particularly rare clotting syndrome though. Cerebral venous sinus thrombosis. It also mentioned this required something other than heparin to treat, which caught my eye.
from Dr. Wiki:
Cerebral venous sinus thrombosis is rare, with an estimated 3-4 cases per million annual incidence in adults. While it may occur in all age groups, it is most common in the third decade. 75% are female. Given that older studies show no difference in incidence between men and women, it has been suggested that the use ofÃ? oral contraceptivesÃ? in women is behind the disparity between the sexes.
so in other words, 7 million people have gotten the vaccine, six people developed clots. We'd expect 21-28 people to develop clots in a group of similar size. I'd say there's evidence the vaccine helps prevent clots ;-)
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Vaccine passports. Simple.
JF_Gophers
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That'll never fly. People won't wear masks. But they're gonna be ok with restricted movement based on government tracking of a vaccine?
We won't have anything so formal, but the fact is almost every cruise company, travel agency, airline, probably a lot of hotel chains, Disney and a host of other leisure activities are going to require documented proof of vaccinations.
People are welcome to "exercise their choice" to be staggeringly ignorant and not get vaccinated but they're going to find that their world is pretty small.
Yeah, I think the most they should have done is pause it's use for women of child bearing age for now "out of an abundance of caution".
I hope this happens. I know I sure as **** don't want to be around unvaccinated people and I think the vast majority of folks feel same way as me.
3-4 cases per million per year. It's been less than a year, so we'd expect fewer than 21-28.
Based on what you quoted, 75% of these types of clots occur in women, and it's assumed the disparity is caused by oral contraceptives. Considering all of these clots in the group vaccinated with J&J occurred in women aged 18-48, I think the right thing to do would be to pause for women of child bearing age while they find out if these clots were caused by oral contraceptives or the vaccine.
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