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Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020

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Scarlet said:
Has anyone else heard about this drug treatment?

https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/bu...fXmhyoOnwRTbqreWLl3GRtXhaqcI77IKmiFUXHjFajAO0

If this was on the up and up, then I assume we would have heard more about it.
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The headline doesn't at all match up with what some googling tells us.

It's still in phase 2/3 clinical trials, so it's not close to being available (even with an EUA). Also, the clinical trials are with already-infected patients, so it does nothing for those pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic, and thus kind of dumping some cold water on the headline. My uneducated guess is that its very positive and probably effective as a treatment for those with mild-medium symptoms, and is similar to the cocktail that Trump received when he was sick.
 
rufus said:
The Trump administration may have bungled the spread and containment of the coronavirus, but they were laser focused on Operation Warp Speed and getting a vaccine as fast as possible, and out to the American people. Donnie hinged much or his re-election campaign on this fact. They were gonna get the vaccine rollout right. Right?

Well, not so fast.

/www.nytimes.com/live/2020/12/07/world/covid-19-coronavirus?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes#trump-administration-officials-passed-when-pfizer-offered-in-late-summer-to-sell-the-us-more-vaccine-doses



The incompetence just keeps on coming.
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It’s like they want people to die, and nearly 40% of the nation approves
 
rufus said:
Reading too that when vaccines become available, states are not going to receive as many as they were promised.
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300m already down to 40m due to supply chain issues

don’t worry all the trump kids get one first
 
Fact check: True. The data is stunning: 97% mask compliance in San Francisco, NY, DC, 96% in Miami and Philly, 95% in Chicago.

CLOTH AND SURGICAL MASKS DO NOT WORK. PERIOD.

https://jordanschachtel.substack.com/p/everyone-is-already-wearing-a-mask


It is time to start asking a serious question. Do masks, often reused in the general public, increase the spread of disease especially in an already very unhealthy population? Years of research prior to 2020 said exactly that.
 
Proud2baLaker said:
My dad was placed in a nursing home last year following a series of strokes. He has dealt with two brain tumors in his life. Numerous complications from said tumors. Complications from diabetes. Heart issues and more. On more than one occasion, my family thought "this is it, he can't beat this" and then he did. He was stronger than any of us thought. Just after Thanksgiving, he was diagnosed with Covid. On Friday, my mom signed paperwork to add hospice care to his team. They allowed her to visit him on Friday and again Sunday (she wore the full PPE the nursing staff would wear). This morning, he passed away. Just shy of 70 years old (would have turned 70 on Dec 31). Sure, some might say his quality of life wasn't the best even before the diagnosis. But he had willed himself to live through so much more. IT DID NOT HAVE TO HAPPEN THIS WAY.
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His quality of life was that he was your dad, and your family loved him. Those are pretty good qualities. Sincere condolences on your loss and my most heartfelt prayers for you and your family.
 
Until recently there were only 7 states with over 1,000 deaths per million residents (NY, NJ, MA, RI, IL, MI, and CT). But Republican leadership has managed to add LA, ND, SD, and MS and indeed the entire US should be over 1000 by New Years Day.
 
Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
300m already down to 40m due to supply chain issues

don’t worry all the trump kids get one first
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But.........but......I thought Donnie had a great plan for vax distribution. The best plan.

I mean, the vax was his baby, his big hail Mary that would make everyone love him.
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rufus said:
Reading too that when vaccines become available, states are not going to receive as many as they were promised.
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No, no, no. This is all BIDEN’S fault. If Trump were in office, he would have seized Pfizer’s stockpiles and the means of production to make sure the vaccine was distributed to all real ‘Muricans. Also, Trump is totally not a socialist.

-Republicans, Feb 2021
 
didn't the federal government order like 800 million vaccine doses? The problem is they spread the orders over half a dozen or more vaccine candidates to hedge their bets. In hind sight, going all-in on Pfizer and Moderna would have been great, but what if they weren't the first ones out of the gate?
 
BassAle said:
didn't the federal government order like 800 million vaccine doses? The problem is they spread the orders over half a dozen or more vaccine candidates to hedge their bets. In hind sight, going all-in on Pfizer and Moderna would have been great, but what if they weren't the first ones out of the gate?
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I read somewhere in August we could have ordered 500 million more doses and been at the front of the line but Trump turned them down because he was mad at them for not being officially part of warp speed. In any case this is going to take a lot longer than what we are hearing right now. We typically only vaccinate 80 million people a year so there are a lot of hurdles to overcome.
 
BassAle said:
didn't the federal government order like 800 million vaccine doses? The problem is they spread the orders over half a dozen or more vaccine candidates to hedge their bets. In hind sight, going all-in on Pfizer and Moderna would have been great, but what if they weren't the first ones out of the gate?
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This is correct. CNBC just discussed this and said that 100 million vaccines were purchased from Pfizer for the first quarter of 2021. (Includes this month because production has been ramping up). Of those doses, a good number are actually going to be *imported* from overseas to hit that target goal.

Once Pfizer started seeing test result numbers, they offered the US Gov't an additional contracts for the second quarter of 2021, to which the Gov't said they were spreading around the contracts. Pfizer then entered into agreements with other nations for that second quarter supply, including shipping Michigan made vaccines out of country.

Now its rumored that Mango Mussolini wants to sign an executive order demanding that US hoard the vaccine, p*ssing off our allies that already signed agreements either Pfizer.
 
Handyman said:
The EO would be unenforceable and Pfizer would sue and (most likely) win.
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The optics would be less than ideal as well, which probably means Trump will try it.

Yeah, it would be great if the 330 million US residents got vaccinated first, from a selfish standpoint, but I don't have a problem with the vaccine companies spreading the shipments out around the world.
 
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