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Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020
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BS. Work is your opportunity, and obligation, to be a contributing member of society, and not a parasite. When we are old enough, and strong enough, we roll up our sleeves and start contributing. When we are old and feeble, society tells us that we've done enough and we set down our tools.
I have a bit of news for you. Your game controllers and your televisions and the home you are sitting in don't just magically appear. Work is literally the only noble contribution you will make during your time here. Everything else is just sucking off of the work of others.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
You are describing craftmanship and creativity and service, all of which are noble and fulfilling. "Work" has nothing to do with that. Work is being forced to do another's will. Ever wonder why 99% of people who work hate their jobs? It's not an accident. It's because they are prisoners of an economy every bit as much as manorialism. Take your Randian tripe and tell a miner or a factory worker.
As for sucking off of the work of others... you just described capital gains.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
What we gave them we can take back. Sovereignty derives, ultimately, from force -- everything else is a cover story.
Human beings could end the reign of corporations and Wall Street in 72 hours with a comprehensive consumer strike. They are only parasites because we allow it.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
MichVandal
Well-known member
If gains and profits were more equitably distributed to those who actually do the real work ot make the goods you buy, you would have a point.
But that doesn't happen. It's the people who tell them what to do that get rewarded the most. Even if what they tell them is wrong- and the company ends up in trouble for some reason. The higher ups barely suffer- either the bankruptcy court awards them with massive salaries or they get incredible golden parachutes. Whereas the people who do the real work to make or harvest stuff lose their jobs and livelihoods.
Don't you find it curious that some of the lowest paid workers in this country are also the most important ones we have- the people who harvest food? But the owners of Kroger or Publix- who just make decisions- make millions?
Those game controller makers you talk about barely make any money, and have to send them to their families- who are also struggling in a rural country. Whereas the "owners" of said plant in China are quickly becoming billionaires. And this is in a country where the state owns everything.
If the wage gap between the actual workers and the upper management were closer, your point would be more valid. But it's far, far, far from that.
As with most of the other statistics you throw around here, that isn't even remotely true.
A small percentage of people may hate their job. Some people may also feel stressed about their job, but that stress can include things like self-imposed stress where the employee wants to do a great job and is worried that they aren't. Workers may also feel underappreciated, but that's not a sign that they hate their job, they may just hate the person that is supervising their performance.
Small Percentage? Dude, come on. Maybe Kep's 99% is high but "small percentage"?
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/12/job... the U.S. specifically, 50,sad, and 18% angry.
I won't quote snippets, read that whole article. Companies that treat their employees well tend to do well. Conversely, with some exceptions, companies that don't... don't.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/12/job... the U.S. specifically, 50,sad, and 18% angry.
I won't quote snippets, read that whole article. Companies that treat their employees well tend to do well. Conversely, with some exceptions, companies that don't... don't.
MichVandal
Well-known member
They are not called unearned income for nothing. Much of investment things have no real impact on making stuff to sell. And they don't really contribute to a real GDP- they just gamble.
Funny that they are get so very much money when they produce nothing- just trade on perceived value of something, and the people who make stuff, like the assembly line workers who make cars, get a small fraction of those leeches.
In Covid news, this is outstanding: https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/25/health/bivalent-boosters-covid-xbb-protection/index.html
"But they don't work!" has always been nonsense.
"But they don't work!" has always been nonsense.
RaceBoarder
Waiting for the Snow to fly...
I don't like my job... But the money that it offers is able to offset the crap I have to put up with. That money was NOT there before the pandemic and I was looking elsewhere.
The main reason I'm content currently is that I've gotten a 50% raise between now and what I was making in Fall 2019. The cash simply buys out the "trouble" my job causes (odd schedule, working in 39*F, 34*F, or -5*F for 10-12 hours/day, regular racism/bigotry among staff are some of the more egregious things). And things are still looking like they will keep trending favorably for me, so I'm just gonna hold the course.
But yea, the actual job I have to do sucks. There is no way to describe it other than that.
The main reason I'm content currently is that I've gotten a 50% raise between now and what I was making in Fall 2019. The cash simply buys out the "trouble" my job causes (odd schedule, working in 39*F, 34*F, or -5*F for 10-12 hours/day, regular racism/bigotry among staff are some of the more egregious things). And things are still looking like they will keep trending favorably for me, so I'm just gonna hold the course.
But yea, the actual job I have to do sucks. There is no way to describe it other than that.
MichVandal
Well-known member
That it great news.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Headshot.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Exactly. It's a trade. I have valued my misery at roughly my current salary. WHich is generally true for everyone currently employed. There's probably a law named after some old white guy that says this.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Yeah it is. There was some worry they'd only have the almost presumed brilliant protection against death and hospitalization. But even a 50% reduction in getting sick at all? That's way beyond what I was expecting.
My only question, what does 52% mean in relation to time? 52% within 3 months? A year? Forever (lol)? I'm assuming something relatively short like 2-3 months. Which is still huge!
Edit: lol, my fault. It was literally the next section:
ScoobyDoo
NPC
It appears to be going to a once a year system. At least that is what I have been told. So, you can get your Flu/Covid booster at the same time every year. If there is a nasty variant that they want boosters for they will probably communicate that and then you might need an extra one if it's mid year cycle.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
I thought annual too but if I'm reading those numbers right it should be semiannual. Unless we're saying get covered for the winter 10-3 and you should be fine for the summer 4-9.
rufus
rock and roller
Or whatever it is that Hovey does.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
HOnestly, what I care about is staying out of the hospital and above ground. If annual is what prevents that, great. Probably kills off more antivaxxers that way. Long game, kep. long game.
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