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Saw Westworld season 1. Meh. Arty, pretentious looking up your own arsehole, too clever by half. Yes, I liked it, a lot, but it was too in love with its own cleverness. And it's a fairytale. The only other one I've seen is Mr. Robot, and same opinion.

The Wire is here, rooted in the real world. It's life. Not my life, or yours, but it's someone's real living, breathing experience. The only show I've ever watched where I've felt physically sick after viewing a particular episode. Fucking Kennard.
 
rufus said:
Saw Westworld season 1. Meh. Arty, pretentious looking up your own arsehole, too clever by half. Yes, I liked it, a lot, but it was too in love with its own cleverness. And it's a fairytale. The only other one I've seen is Mr. Robot, and same opinion.
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Talking about West World is bringing my bile to the surface over Season Three. Which could have been fabulous. Instead they ruined it much like they ruined GOT. Both of which first seasons cannot be topped IMO.
 
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Talking about West World is bringing my bile to the surface over Season Three. Which could have been fabulous. Instead they ruined it much like they ruined GOT. Both of which first seasons cannot be topped IMO.
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WW S3 proved to me that the genius was not Jonathan Nolan, he just lucked into S1. Somebody left and it all went to sh-t.

The writing is so subtle and beautiful in S1, and the characterizations are perfect. The plot arc, meh, whatever, but it's what was done within it.

S2 was a cash grab but okay they earned it.

S3 was pure garbage. It was the revenge of the kind of person who found the themes and ideas in S1 "pretentious" or "too meta."

Sometimes high brow things are high brow. Sometimes aspirational fiction is genuinely fascinating. If it makes you feel small, that's good. We are small. There's so much to learn and so many ways to grow and 99.99999999% of our culture is clambering for us to be stupid and buy things. It's good that once in a while somebody kicks you in your head and screams "wakey-wakey" in your ear, and if that scares you or gives you the sad feewies that's your deficiency, not its.

I want art I can't totally understand. Why bother constantly just recycling your own excretions? Get beyond your self!
 
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I think it's more they had an idea, it worked for two seasons, and then they just didn't know where else they coould go. So, let's just blow shit up.
 
rufus said:
I think it's more they had an idea, it worked for two seasons, and then they just didn't know where else they coould go. So, let's just blow **** up.
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It's the power of being the writer(s). You get to decide. Unless there is someone higher up rejecting idea after idea and you have to cave on your ideas. Ultimately as consumers we don't get to write the stories, we just get to critique them.
 
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It's the power of being the writer(s). You get to decide. Unless there is someone higher up rejecting idea after idea and you have to cave on your ideas. Ultimately as consumers we don't get to write the stories, we just get to critique them.
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Yeah, and these writers had no idea where to go with their story. So you got season three.

Whereas season three of The Deuce was terrific. Cause they had good writers(same creative group as did The Wire)

Edit: I just went to IMDB to look back on that final season. One of the trivia bits for the final episode says that the final scene was the very first thing that series creators David Simon and George Pelecanos wrote when they decided to do the show.
 
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Yeah, and these writers had no idea where to go with their story. So you got season three.

Whereas season three of The Deuce was terrific. Cause they had good writers(same creative group as did The Wire)
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No, they had an idea. It just didn't jive with mine. Or any of their other fans for that matter.
 
ScoobyDoo said:
Talking about West World is bringing my bile to the surface over Season Three. Which could have been fabulous. Instead they ruined it much like they ruined GOT. Both of which first seasons cannot be topped IMO.
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I thought season 2 was a big drop from one and I was not as high on one as all of you on here.

the leftovers is one if the ones they didn’t ruin thank god. Three great seasons, then done.
 
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Took my first in home rapid COVID test today. Thankfully it was negative. I bought two of them on a whim yesterday. Now that I can pretty much rule out COVID, I need to figure out why I’m really lightheaded.
 
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So? My sympathy ended a while ago. They PLAN on shooting to protect their freedumbs. Game on. But, I guess it’s just a matter of who gets shot. People trying to live by the rules or spreadnecks breaking them.
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I dont care if they shoot each other...but that isn't what I am saying. Innocents die in mass casualty events.

Mr. Robot's last season was so atrocious (actually most of the last 2 seasons) I honestly wish I never watched any of it. They had zero idea what they were doing and thought if they just kept adding stupid layers people would think it was genius. It wasn't. The finale was so pathetic I honestly can't even remember it anymore.
 
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