FadeToBlack&Gold
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Doesn't help that their own pols have been caught flouting the restrictions they imposed on the populace.
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Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020
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Doesn't help that their own pols have been caught flouting the restrictions they imposed on the populace.
MichVandal
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That's a new one I've not heard. Interesting.
We’re already going the wrong way in New England and it’s likely to get worse as B.1.1.7 becomes more dominant. I think by the middle of April we will be in serious trouble again.
Not surprised. Old people are generally tougher, more resilient, nobler creatures than the young.
It’s pretty well known that younger people with a more robust immune system have more side effects from the vaccine. It’s something that was observed during the clinical trial.
I think it’s very likely vaccine side effects have no relation how you would have fared with the actual virus.
aparch
Acetaminamerican
This is a great way to display the data and show just how different Covid is versus the flu.
Handyman
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Yeah but at least the 30% will be the bulk of the wave so...
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Deutsche Gopher Fan
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Til they drive new mutations that our vaccines won’t work on
A little over a week ago I checked the daily number of cases and it was actually under 1000 and the positivity rate was finally under 2%. And then in the past week, it’s now close to 2000 cases a day and the positivity rate is back over 2%. I feel like I’ve slipped in my precautions and I have to get back to them.
Yeah, and even if you’re vaccinated you still have somewhere between a 1 in five and 1 in 20 chance of getting it. You should have a better shot of not getting seriously ill though. We still have a long ways to go.
leswp1
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I feel like Baker was someone that was trustworthy and then he sold his soul. There was absolutely no reason to drop the restrictions or open things as quickly as he did. The numbers are heading in the wrong direction, the variants are here and he is hell bent on going forward. Middlesex County is already back in the red. My town had 50% more school cases last week and they considered it a moderate increase. Um, where would this math be logical. Town #s are on the rise again as well. Proving people are stupid. And just how dangerous it is to have someone trustworthy go to the dark side. Because he was so good at first people believe him when he says stupid things now.
I don't quite understand the medical reasons for it, but most hospitals now have a policy on retesting after a positive test. Mine doesn't do it for 90 days. The argument from our chief of infectious diseases is that these are not live virus particles after a few weeks, unless you're one of of the real unlucky long haulers that's in the hospital for weeks and weeks.
Also, regarding new waves of infections. Sure, it's possible, especially with how virulent the most recent variants are, however I think we need to look into the numbers, the percent vaccinated and compare those here from the winter to now, and then to benchmark against other country's vaccination efforts.
In MA, for example, cases are creeping up but hospitalizations are still low and continue to trend down. Now, hospitalizations trail cases, so we should see those come back up. But look deeper at vaccination rates in the state and compare that with hospitalizations by age:
https://public.tableau.com/views/MA...lbar=n&:origin=viz_share_link&:device=desktop
That age group chart tells us a lot. It was virtually reversed 5 months ago, but as we've worked hard to vaccinate those most at risk (mainly the older folks), you see their case numbers drop substantially. In the aggregate, younger people aren't as likely to develop severe cases, which helps explain the drop in hospitalizations. Infections will rise, especially after all the spring break ridiculousness (once again, thanks Florida), but they will rise in a population that's relatively less impacted than others. Plus, again, every single day we vaccinate 2-3 million more people nationally. That adds up really quickly.
Spreading out to the country at large, we vaccinated 3.1 million people yesterday and 3 million Saturday. We have almost 70% of the over 65 age group vaccinated. Three states are over 30% total population for first dose. This is amazing news and while we have a whole lot of work left and it's not time to take our foot off the gas, I think the math alone means it's less likely to have a substantial wave.
In MA, for example, cases are creeping up but hospitalizations are still low and continue to trend down. Now, hospitalizations trail cases, so we should see those come back up. But look deeper at vaccination rates in the state and compare that with hospitalizations by age:
https://public.tableau.com/views/MA...lbar=n&:origin=viz_share_link&:device=desktop
That age group chart tells us a lot. It was virtually reversed 5 months ago, but as we've worked hard to vaccinate those most at risk (mainly the older folks), you see their case numbers drop substantially. In the aggregate, younger people aren't as likely to develop severe cases, which helps explain the drop in hospitalizations. Infections will rise, especially after all the spring break ridiculousness (once again, thanks Florida), but they will rise in a population that's relatively less impacted than others. Plus, again, every single day we vaccinate 2-3 million more people nationally. That adds up really quickly.
Spreading out to the country at large, we vaccinated 3.1 million people yesterday and 3 million Saturday. We have almost 70% of the over 65 age group vaccinated. Three states are over 30% total population for first dose. This is amazing news and while we have a whole lot of work left and it's not time to take our foot off the gas, I think the math alone means it's less likely to have a substantial wave.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
So if you test positive, there's no way to know when you're no longer contagious?
I think this is more or less accurate with almost any virus, but I defer to the medical professionals here.
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Deutsche Gopher Fan
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It’s tricky. They think the latest Ebola outbreak came from a guy who had Ebola five years ago in the big outbreak and it became “active” in him again to start the latest round.
Handyman
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Yeah I was getting them like 3 times a day until the weekend when they must have updated the rolls.
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