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Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020

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Whalers said:
Lets get back to the KNOWN figures on myocarditis issues. I gave TWO athletes (still alive), and then you gave ONE more (died), but he was overseas and I am not sure if Serbia is enforcing a mask policy, so can we really count him in our figures? Even if we do, lets use a nice "SCARE" number! Myocarditis figures in peer reviewed and trusted USCHO thread rise 50%! We are now up to 3, yes, THREE, from your vast pool of supposedly affected athletes. From the Myocarditis Foundation website, 75 athletes in the 13-25 age group die of Myocarditis EVERY year, even without Corona. You have given us ONE example, AND he is even out of the age range, but for arguments sake, I will give it to you. Where are the other 74 next to die, all in the SEC, Big 12 and ACC? I guess no high level prospects in any of those leagues would need an insurance policy that they would surely be unable to obtain because of the high risk. Who is the insurance actuary that believes covering a group with up to a 15% complication or death rate that would trigger a payout as being fiscally prudent? Maybe all of the actuaries at THOSE insurance companies are just big Bama fans who don't mind paying out grande dinero so we can Roll Tide!

Chuck, you have some background in insurance I believe. Does this seem like a plausible scenario?
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Whalers, the plausibility of this scenario is nearly as plausible as Hiden Biden being able to recite his ABC's without the use of a teleprompter. In short, highly implausible.

But this is what you get when you're up against (per Jeb2020) #TeamWetTheBed.

P.S. - funny how so few mention the Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna vaccines in late-stage clinical studies are continuing without pause or delay - only that the AstraZeneca study has been (temporarily) paused. It's almost as if some folks are rooting against a vaccine, after constantly belly-aching for the last six months how that's the "only" way out of this. Hmmmmm ...
 
Who's rooting against them? You don't need straw men. I posted that because it is noteworthy. It's also noteworthy - and good - that it looks to be unrelated to the vaccine, so it shouldn't ultimately cause a significant delay.

Pfizer and Moderna are both cruising ahead. November is still in play for approvals/release, even if less than likely. In fact, Moderna is working on an entirely new type of vaccine that looks to be safer and cheaper than traditional vaccines. Less risk plus easier manufacturing is incredibly exciting. If their proposed schedules come to fruition, we have a real chance of being "post-COVID" by next spring or summer, depending on population's uptake of the vaccines.
 
Updated table now that I had some time over lunch:


Jimjamesak said:
dx makes a good point regarding work and people in that age group. Think about how many restaurant and retail type jobs are worked by that age group, and most often out of necessity.
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Holy sh-t, you can paste the table directly from Excel WITH formatting! [TABLE="width: 550"]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67"] [/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: #d9d9d9"]Pop Share[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, bgcolor: #d9d9d9"]Test Share[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, bgcolor: #d9d9d9"]Pos Share[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, bgcolor: #d9d9d9"]Neg Share[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, bgcolor: #d9d9d9"]Positivity[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #d9d9d9"]Pop Infect[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl71"].Under 5 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl74, bgcolor: #ffea84, align: right"]6.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl75, bgcolor: #85c77c, align: right"]2.7%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl75, bgcolor: #67bf7b, align: right"]1.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl75, bgcolor: #86c87d, align: right"]2.7%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl75, bgcolor: #8fca7d, align: right"]3.7%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, bgcolor: #67bf7b, align: right"]0.4%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl72"].5 to 9 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #ffe684, align: right"]6.4%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #68bf7b, align: right"]1.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #63be7b, align: right"]1.7%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #68bf7b, align: right"]1.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #e6e382, align: right"]5.0%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl79, bgcolor: #63be7b, align: right"]0.4%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl72"].10 to 14 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #ffe483, align: right"]6.6%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #68bf7b, align: right"]1.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #82c77c, align: right"]2.6%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #66bf7b, align: right"]1.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #fa8e72, align: right"]7.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl79, bgcolor: #83c77c, align: right"]0.6%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl72"].15 to 19 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #ffe784, align: right"]6.4%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #e2e282, align: right"]5.4%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #fdbd7c, align: right"]8.6%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #dce182, align: right"]5.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #f8696b, align: right"]8.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl79, bgcolor: #fdc47d, align: right"]2.0%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl72"].20 to 24 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #ffe984, align: right"]6.3%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #fdbb7b, align: right"]8.7%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #f8696b, align: right"]12.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #fdc07c, align: right"]8.4%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #fa8270, align: right"]8.1%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl79, bgcolor: #f8696b, align: right"]3.0%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl72"].25 to 29 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #ffe182, align: right"]6.7%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #fdbd7c, align: right"]8.6%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #fca677, align: right"]9.7%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #fdbe7c, align: right"]8.5%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #fecb7e, align: right"]6.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl79, bgcolor: #fcb079, align: right"]2.2%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl72"].30 to 34 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #ffdf82, align: right"]6.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #fdba7b, align: right"]8.7%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #fcb27a, align: right"]9.1%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #fdbb7b, align: right"]8.7%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #ffdd82, align: right"]5.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl79, bgcolor: #fcad78, align: right"]2.2%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl72"].35 to 39 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #ffdd82, align: right"]6.9%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #fecc7e, align: right"]7.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #fdc57d, align: right"]8.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #fecc7e, align: right"]7.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #ffde82, align: right"]5.7%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl79, bgcolor: #fdb87b, align: right"]2.1%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl72"].40 to 44 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #f8e983, align: right"]6.0%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #ffe884, align: right"]6.3%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #fed881, align: right"]7.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #ffe984, align: right"]6.3%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #fecb7e, align: right"]6.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl79, bgcolor: #fed881, align: right"]1.7%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl72"].45 to 49 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #f3e783, align: right"]5.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #f1e783, align: right"]5.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #ffde82, align: right"]6.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #efe683, align: right"]5.7%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #fdc17c, align: right"]6.5%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl79, bgcolor: #f5e883, align: right"]1.4%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl72"].50 to 54 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #fcea83, align: right"]6.1%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #ffea84, align: right"]6.3%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #ffe082, align: right"]6.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #ffea84, align: right"]6.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #fed680, align: right"]5.9%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl79, bgcolor: #f5e883, align: right"]1.4%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl72"].55 to 59 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #ffdd82, align: right"]6.9%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #ffdf82, align: right"]6.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #fbea83, align: right"]6.1%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #ffde82, align: right"]6.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #dee182, align: right"]4.9%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl79, bgcolor: #fbea83, align: right"]1.5%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl72"].60 to 64 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #ffe583, align: right"]6.5%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #ffe884, align: right"]6.4%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #cedd81, align: right"]4.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #ffe683, align: right"]6.5%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #a8d27f, align: right"]4.1%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl79, bgcolor: #f8e983, align: right"]1.4%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl72"].65 to 69 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #e3e382, align: right"]5.4%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #dee182, align: right"]5.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #9cce7e, align: right"]3.3%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #e1e282, align: right"]5.3%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #7ec57c, align: right"]3.5%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl79, bgcolor: #f0e683, align: right"]1.4%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl72"].70 to 74 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #b4d57f, align: right"]4.0%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #c4da80, align: right"]4.5%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #80c67c, align: right"]2.5%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #c8db80, align: right"]4.6%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #63be7b, align: right"]3.1%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl79, bgcolor: #f2e783, align: right"]1.4%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl72"].75 to 79 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #8ac97d, align: right"]2.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #aad27f, align: right"]3.7%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #74c37c, align: right"]2.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #add37f, align: right"]3.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #6bc07b, align: right"]3.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl79, bgcolor: #ffea84, align: right"]1.5%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl72"].80 to 84 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #6bc07b, align: right"]1.9%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #9cce7e, align: right"]3.3%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #71c27b, align: right"]2.1%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #9ecf7e, align: right"]3.4%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #7ac47c, align: right"]3.4%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl79, bgcolor: #fed580, align: right"]1.8%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl73"].85 years +[/TD]
[TD="class: xl80, bgcolor: #74c37c, align: right"]2.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl81, bgcolor: #ffe984, align: right"]6.3%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl81, bgcolor: #acd37f, align: right"]3.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl81, bgcolor: #ffe683, align: right"]6.5%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl81, bgcolor: #70c17b, align: right"]3.3%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl82, bgcolor: #f96d6c, align: right"]3.0%[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Non-conditional table: [TABLE="width: 550"]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl66"] [/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, bgcolor: #d9d9d9"]Pop Share[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: #d9d9d9"]Test Share[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: #d9d9d9"]Pos Share[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: #d9d9d9"]Neg Share[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: #d9d9d9"]Positivity[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, bgcolor: #d9d9d9"]Pop Infect[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl70"].Under 5 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl73, align: right"]6.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl74, align: right"]2.7%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl74, align: right"]1.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl74, align: right"]2.7%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl74, align: right"]3.7%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl75, align: right"]0.4%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl71"].5 to 9 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, align: right"]6.4%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]1.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]1.7%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]1.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]5.0%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, align: right"]0.4%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl71"].10 to 14 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, align: right"]6.6%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]1.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]2.6%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]1.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]7.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, align: right"]0.6%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl71"].15 to 19 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, align: right"]6.4%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]5.4%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]8.6%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]5.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]8.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, align: right"]2.0%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl71"].20 to 24 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, align: right"]6.3%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]8.7%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]12.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]8.4%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]8.1%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, align: right"]3.0%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl71"].25 to 29 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, align: right"]6.7%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]8.6%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]9.7%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]8.5%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]6.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, align: right"]2.2%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl71"].30 to 34 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, align: right"]6.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]8.7%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]9.1%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]8.7%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]5.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, align: right"]2.2%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl71"].35 to 39 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, align: right"]6.9%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]7.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]8.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]7.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]5.7%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, align: right"]2.1%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl71"].40 to 44 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, align: right"]6.0%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]6.3%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]7.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]6.3%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]6.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, align: right"]1.7%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl71"].45 to 49 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, align: right"]5.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]5.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]6.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]5.7%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]6.5%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, align: right"]1.4%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl71"].50 to 54 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, align: right"]6.1%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]6.3%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]6.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]6.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]5.9%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, align: right"]1.4%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl71"].55 to 59 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, align: right"]6.9%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]6.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]6.1%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]6.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]4.9%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, align: right"]1.5%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl71"].60 to 64 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, align: right"]6.5%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]6.4%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]4.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]6.5%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]4.1%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, align: right"]1.4%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl71"].65 to 69 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, align: right"]5.4%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]5.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]3.3%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]5.3%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]3.5%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, align: right"]1.4%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl71"].70 to 74 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, align: right"]4.0%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]4.5%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]2.5%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]4.6%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]3.1%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, align: right"]1.4%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl71"].75 to 79 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, align: right"]2.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]3.7%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]2.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]3.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]3.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, align: right"]1.5%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl71"].80 to 84 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, align: right"]1.9%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]3.3%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]2.1%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]3.4%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, align: right"]3.4%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, align: right"]1.8%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl72"].85 years +[/TD]
[TD="class: xl79, align: right"]2.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl80, align: right"]6.3%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl80, align: right"]3.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl80, align: right"]6.5%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl80, align: right"]3.3%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl81, align: right"]3.0%[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


There's actually an incredible detail buried in the table. The average age of becoming a parent is 28.5 (31 male, 26 female). If you look at the positivity column, you'll see a bump among the 40-44 and 45-49 group corresponding to a population that has children ~10-14 and 15-19 who have one of the highest positivity rates. (Not perfect, but there's some slop in the assumption of 29 yrs.) Interesting.

I'm sure if you add in grandchildren, you'll find a similar bump although it's probably buried even deeper. [TABLE="width: 550"]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl67"] [/TD]
[TD="class: xl68, bgcolor: #d9d9d9"]Pos Share[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, bgcolor: #d9d9d9"]Positivity[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, bgcolor: #d9d9d9"]Pop Infected[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, bgcolor: #d9d9d9"]Avg Age Child[/TD]
[TD="class: xl69, bgcolor: #d9d9d9"]Chld Postv[/TD]
[TD="class: xl70, bgcolor: #d9d9d9"]Chld Pop Inf[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD="class: xl71"].Under 5 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl74, bgcolor: #68bf7b, align: right"]1.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl75, bgcolor: #8fca7d, align: right"]3.7%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl75, bgcolor: #67bf7b, align: right"]0.4%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl83"] [/TD]
[TD="class: xl84"] [/TD]
[TD="class: xl85"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl72"].5 to 9 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, bgcolor: #63be7b, align: right"]1.7%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #e6e382, align: right"]5.0%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #63be7b, align: right"]0.4%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl86"] [/TD]
[TD="class: xl87"] [/TD]
[TD="class: xl88"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl72"].10 to 14 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, bgcolor: #89c97d, align: right"]2.6%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #fa8e72, align: right"]7.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #83c77c, align: right"]0.6%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl86"] [/TD]
[TD="class: xl87"] [/TD]
[TD="class: xl88"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl72"].15 to 19 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, bgcolor: #fdb57a, align: right"]8.6%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #f8696b, align: right"]8.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #fdc47d, align: right"]2.0%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl86"] [/TD]
[TD="class: xl87"] [/TD]
[TD="class: xl88"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl72"].20 to 24 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, bgcolor: #f8696b, align: right"]12.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #fa8270, align: right"]8.1%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #f8696b, align: right"]3.0%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl86"] [/TD]
[TD="class: xl87"] [/TD]
[TD="class: xl88"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl72"].25 to 29 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, bgcolor: #fba076, align: right"]9.7%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #fecb7e, align: right"]6.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #fcb079, align: right"]2.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl86"] [/TD]
[TD="class: xl87"] [/TD]
[TD="class: xl88"] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl72"].30 to 34 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, bgcolor: #fcab78, align: right"]9.1%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #ffdd82, align: right"]5.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #fcad78, align: right"]2.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl86"]1-4[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #63be7b, align: right"]3.7%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #67bf7b, align: right"]0.4%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl72"].35 to 39 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, bgcolor: #fdbb7b, align: right"]8.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #ffde82, align: right"]5.7%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #fdb87b, align: right"]2.1%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl86"]5-9[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #b7d67f, align: right"]5.0%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #63be7b, align: right"]0.4%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl72"].40 to 44 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, bgcolor: #fecd7f, align: right"]7.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #fecb7e, align: right"]6.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #fed881, align: right"]1.7%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl86"]10-14[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #fb9774, align: right"]7.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #80c67c, align: right"]0.6%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl72"].45 to 49 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, bgcolor: #fed380, align: right"]6.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #fdc17c, align: right"]6.5%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #f5e883, align: right"]1.4%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl86"]15-19[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #f8696b, align: right"]8.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #feca7e, align: right"]2.0%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl72"].50 to 54 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, bgcolor: #fed480, align: right"]6.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #fed680, align: right"]5.9%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #f5e883, align: right"]1.4%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl86"]20-24[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #fa8871, align: right"]8.1%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #f8696b, align: right"]3.0%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl72"].55 to 59 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, bgcolor: #ffe082, align: right"]6.1%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #dee182, align: right"]4.9%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #fbea83, align: right"]1.5%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl86"]25-29[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #ffe483, align: right"]6.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #fdb57a, align: right"]2.2%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl72"].60 to 64 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, bgcolor: #e4e382, align: right"]4.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #a8d27f, align: right"]4.1%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #f8e983, align: right"]1.4%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl86"]30-34[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #e9e482, align: right"]5.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #fcb279, align: right"]2.2%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl72"].65 to 69 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, bgcolor: #a7d17e, align: right"]3.3%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #7ec57c, align: right"]3.5%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #f0e683, align: right"]1.4%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl86"]35-39[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #e8e482, align: right"]5.7%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #fdbe7c, align: right"]2.1%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl72"].70 to 74 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, bgcolor: #86c87d, align: right"]2.5%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #63be7b, align: right"]3.1%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #f2e783, align: right"]1.4%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl86"]40-44[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #ffe483, align: right"]6.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #ffe082, align: right"]1.7%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl72"].75 to 79 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, bgcolor: #78c47c, align: right"]2.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #6bc07b, align: right"]3.2%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #ffea84, align: right"]1.5%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl86"]45-49[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #fed781, align: right"]6.5%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #e8e482, align: right"]1.4%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl72"].80 to 84 years[/TD]
[TD="class: xl76, bgcolor: #73c27b, align: right"]2.1%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #7ac47c, align: right"]3.4%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #fed580, align: right"]1.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl86"]50-54[/TD]
[TD="class: xl77, bgcolor: #f5e883, align: right"]5.9%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl78, bgcolor: #e8e482, align: right"]1.4%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="class: xl73"].85 years and over[/TD]
[TD="class: xl79, bgcolor: #bbd780, align: right"]3.8%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl80, bgcolor: #70c17b, align: right"]3.3%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl80, bgcolor: #f96d6c, align: right"]3.0%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl89"]55-59[/TD]
[TD="class: xl80, bgcolor: #b0d47f, align: right"]4.9%[/TD]
[TD="class: xl81, bgcolor: #eee683, align: right"]1.5%[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
net presence said:
Whalers....is reading comprehension really that difficult?

......................Next, nobody is saying it's a 15% chance of death. Especially in relation to your insurance comment. You can possibly die from it but, it's just as likely to lead to potential life-long cardio issues...................................Still, that's the bigger issue for these schools...liability. The BIG10 schools are being told by their lawyers that there isn't any precedent regarding this specific issue so, to continue to play might expose them in a significant way to Covid related legal issues.
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I guess that reading comprehension is not a strong point for either of us, and also not for the Penn St doctor (or was that listening comprehension?). I didn't say that there was a 15% DEATH rate, I said COMPLICATIONS or Death rate, and this was related to insurance payouts. The way these insurance policies work (not an "expert") is the athlete takes out the policy against a career ending injury derailing their ability to play professionally. They (or an SEC booster) pay the premiums and if the policy has a claim, they are compensated for the future lost wages. This does not mean death, though obviously death would work, but knee injuries, Achille issues, concussions and yes, even corona, can lead to a payout depending on the policy terms. I guarantee you that Trevor Lawrence has such a policy.

From a college liability standpoint, do you believe that these schools aren’t having the athletes sign paperwork that indemnifies the institution? My daughter, not a college athlete, had to sign one for her school as a prerequisite for attendance, so has to be standard practice for athletes, no?

Questions;
- How could the school be liable for a communicable affliction that is freely present in nature and potentially on any surface, anywhere? Said athlete can ONLY be infected thru athletics and nowhere else?
- If corona truly opened these schools up to massive liability, wouldn't the common flu, TB, Hep C or communist indoctrination do the same for ALL students?
- Playing this out, the athlete INSIDE the stadium who gets corona can sue the school, but the "peaceful protestor" OUTSIDE the stadium who gets it is Sh!$ out of luck?
- Do you have a corona rider on your homeowners policy? If not, when you invite me over for dinner and I catch the Rona, you would be PERSONALLY liable and I will then sue and own your house? Should I bring Red wine or white? :-)
 
Fever and chills. Getting tested later today but likely waiting 3-4 days for results
 
Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
Fever and chills. Getting tested later today but likely waiting 3-4 days for results
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Yeesh.

Most of the people tested I know or have heard about find out in 2 days especially if they have it. The testing spots up here do a pretty good job of getting you the info fast fyi.

Fingers crossed :-(
 
Swansong said:
The dishonesty in that post is frightening.
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Same level of frightening as that Sturgis drivel you posted?

And you try to paint yourself as some reasoned thinker. 9 out of 10 posts on here are complete nonsense, think Handyman, screwlosedoobydo, will do anything for a lockdown .net, Rufus the Dufus. Yet not a peep from your enlightened self.

And then anything that you disagree with or frankly have no legitimate answer for, freightens you to your core.
 
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Here's the problem Jebbers, is that with you and your ilk, it's all or nothing. Free as a naked jaybird or locked up at home cowering under your weighted blanket.

Never any goddammed middle ground.

What's wrong with "you know what, we shouldn't pack in like sardines if people are sick? Or if we do have to be close, let's wear a mask to protect ourselves?" Nope, you can't have *anything* that would change from status quo.


Well, guess what?

Go fu** yourself. Eight months into this Pandemic is what happens when people who think like you pretend to be in charge. It didn't have to be this way, but God help us all if *you* can't drink a shi**y p*ss water macrobrew at a bar shoulder to shoulder with your three buddies on a Friday night because you can't get it up for your baby mama anymore.
 
aparch said:
Here's the problem Jebbers, is that with you and your ilk, it's all or nothing. Free as a naked jaybird or locked up at home cowering under your weighted blanket.

Never any goddammed middle ground.

What's wrong with "you know what, we shouldn't pack in like sardines if people are sick? Or if we do have to be close, let's wear a mask to protect ourselves?" Nope, you can't have *anything* that would change from status quo.


Well, guess what?

Go fu** yourself. Eight months into this Pandemic is what happens when people who think like you pretend to be in charge. It didn't have to be this way, but God help us all if *you* can't drink a shi**y p*ss water macrobrew at a bar shoulder to shoulder with your three buddies on a Friday night because you can't get it up for your baby mama anymore.
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This, except replace "Baby Momma" for 14 year old niece (or is it nephew?)... That's what Jeb is into, I'm sure...
 
aparch said:
Here's the problem Jebbers, is that with you and your ilk, it's all or nothing. Free as a naked jaybird or locked up at home cowering under your weighted blanket.

Never any goddammed middle ground.

What's wrong with "you know what, we shouldn't pack in like sardines if people are sick? Or if we do have to be close, let's wear a mask to protect ourselves?" Nope, you can't have *anything* that would change from status quo.


Well, guess what?

Go fu** yourself. Eight months into this Pandemic is what happens when people who think like you pretend to be in charge. It didn't have to be this way, but God help us all if *you* can't drink a shi**y p*ss water macrobrew at a bar shoulder to shoulder with your three buddies on a Friday night because you can't get it up for your baby mama anymore.
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Bingo. I mean FFS compared to a lot of other countries we barely had to deal with any hardships at all. If people would have just listened back in April and May we would have had like most of the summer to enjoy without much restriction at all. But no...as most of us here predicted people cared more about themselves than everyone else and screwed it up for everyone. Now here we are in September and we have the same issues everyone else does only we havent even ended our first wave yet while they are on their second and dealing with it. Our moron President just had a rally in Michigan where masks were scarce all while he is basically screwing over their National Guard with funding for the pandemic. Not only that, but we still dont have a national testing program worth a lick because nimrod left it up to the states gambling that only a few Blue States would get it and to him they dont matter. Now he is caught on tape admitting in March he knew how bad it was even as he was telling the American Public the exact opposite.

Because of people like Jebbers and Chuck Murray there is a ton of misinformation out there and stupid people like them eat up and believe it because the truth is a hard concept. That is why they bought when the OANN crowd said the NY Hospitals were not full, why they believed in miracle cures and why now they downplay everything up to an including death. They cant do anything else because thinking is too much for them.
 
RaceBoarder said:
This, except replace "Baby Momma" for 14 year old niece (or is it nephew?)... That's what Jeb is into, I'm sure...
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Good one!! Did you have to yell up to Mom from the cellar to ask her for this snappy comeback? Or did you put down the dusty Etch-A-Sketch you found in the corner after soloing yourself as usual and think this one up for yourself? :-)
 
Handyman said:
Bingo. I mean FFS compared to a lot of other countries we barely had to deal with any hardships at all. If people would have just listened back in April and May we would have had like most of the summer to enjoy without much restriction at all. But no...as most of us here predicted people cared more about themselves than everyone else and screwed it up for everyone. Now here we are in September and we have the same issues everyone else does only we havent even ended our first wave yet while they are on their second and dealing with it. Our moron President just had a rally in Michigan where masks were scarce all while he is basically screwing over their National Guard with funding for the pandemic. Not only that, but we still dont have a national testing program worth a lick because nimrod left it up to the states gambling that only a few Blue States would get it and to him they dont matter. Now he is caught on tape admitting in March he knew how bad it was even as he was telling the American Public the exact opposite.

Because of people like Jebbers and Chuck Murray there is a ton of misinformation out there and stupid people like them eat up and believe it because the truth is a hard concept. That is why they bought when the OANN crowd said the NY Hospitals were not full, why they believed in miracle cures and why now they downplay everything up to an including death. They cant do anything else because thinking is too much for them.
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My dad and brother kept regurgitating this back then too. I know people who work at those hospitals in NY, both at the "real" hospitals and the field hospitals. They weren't empty, not by a long shot. The field hospitals, fortunately, didn't end up overflowing the way the brick-and-mortar hospitals did. But actual knowledge no longer matters, because some jackbag troll bot online said otherwise.
 
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