Re: Covfefe-19 The 10th Part: Might As Well Reject No Shirt, No Shoes While You're At
The relaxation of standards isn’t because they make it safe. It’s because governments were being threatened and the herd was getting restless. This was just a controlled way of releasing the water to help prevent the dam from catastrophically breaking. The town is going to be flooded still, it just buys time for people to grab their kids and dog and get to safety.
Having a small campfire in the unburned forest doesn’t mean it’s a good idea. It’s still a really bad idea.
This idea that we’re “safely” reopening is an insane lie.
This is a great post. Went right over the head but it is spot on.
It wouldn’t matter - people like you would question and violate anyway because you don’t seem to understand the scientific method and adjustments
This. They put rules in place for a reason. No amount of rationalization about how you think they are arbitrary negates that you didn't comply. Now multiply that by the millions of people who are also very special and have a real reason they need to do what they want. This is why we can't have nice things.
Yes, your group of 30 is fine. What what about the people that are in the resort the week before? Or the week after? They infect the innkeeper who then infects their family and staff. And because it's the Backwoods, MI, odds are they went down to the Houghton Wal-mart and spread it there too. And now a place with just 10 hospital beds has to deal with this...
It sucks to admit, but all it takes is ONE person to tumble the house of cards here.
And you're assuming that the inn doesn't sanitize the hell out of everything. Clue: they do. They actually shut down a couple months ago, due to a possible scare. False alarm. Currently, they are working on outdoor seating in case they cannot open up, and have to follow patio seating rules. The owners are being more cautious than necessary, which is good.
I know you are an intelligent person so I am struggling to understand why you are not grasping the facts. There is no way you can assure yourself that no one will be carrying the virus unless all of you (visitors and staff) have been isolated for about 2 weeks. Isolated means no contact with
anyone for 2 weeks. The minute anyone has contact with any outside source you cannot guarantee there will be no spread. This is reality. Even if you were to test each person as they arrived you cannot
guarantee they are negative.
The mr and I have been nowhere in months now. lilnsl works at a market and lives in our house. He is uber careful but he works in a place that is considered at risk and spends a lot of the day fending off idiots that feel special and think they should be able to do x just this once because [fill in no good excuse] ~ Ergo we are ALL considered high risk to be around. All it takes is one person being in the wrong place and time and off you go.
Social distancing is safer but it is not completely safe. The more people you are near the higher the risk. You add in alcohol (decreases immunity), poor sleep (decreases immunity) and long periods of being in an area with a group and the risk will go up. There are 30 people. You have 30 chances of exposure, coming from all over, traveling to one place. There will be people who were very careful for the weeks before and those who were very careful except when they took a little break from being very careful. Even if they were careful they could have been buy someone who was not careful. One little break is all the virus needs. If even half the people have your flexible interpretation of what is an appropriate measure you are at risk. Add to that you have no idea if the people those people have had to be around have a flexible interpretation of risk aversion.
I really struggle with the tendency for people to consider risk only in the context of themselves. Contact tracing- the avg person has had 15 contacts. Even if they were being careful the lowest it usually goes is a bit over 2 people per person. Each of those people has the potential to have had the same # of contacts. This is the L'Oreal commercial on steroids.
It is so weird to realize when you deal with patients who are immuno-compromised it is extremely rare to have the patient fail to grasp the danger involved in putting themselves in a place they can catch something. They are usually exquisitely careful, follow all the recommendations and their families are scrupulous in trying to decrease risk. So it is completely possible for people to get this concept. Unfortunately when it applies to everyone- suddenly it is impossible
