Covfefe-19 Part 9: Shelter In Place is Temporary, but Wu-Tang is Forever

[burd]

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https://www.theonion.com/camouflage-wearing-protesters-pose-with-virus-they-caug-1843247502

Thank Parise for the Onion. Good satire is such a wonderful weapon.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Seems to me we've epic failed this entire thing. The news today was worse than it has been since the first day. You're either going to get it and die OR you're going to get it and live. One or the other.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Seems to me we've epic failed this entire thing. The news today was worse than it has been since the first day. You're either going to get it and die OR you're going to get it and live. One or the other.

Uh...thanks dr scooby

 

[rufus]

Seems to me we've epic failed this entire thing. The news today was worse than it has been since the first day. You're either going to get it and die OR you're going to get it and live. One or the other.

We're gonna do the Sweden method, whether we want to or not.

Thanks Donnie. Elections have consequences.

In personal news, I'm staying home from work again. Woke up with a weird, splitting headache yesterday that hasn't gone away, and since going back to bed after calling the boss, have had the chills. Temp of 98.7 though, so don't know what to make of it all.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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Rumor has it that REAL men don't get COVID. Only snowflake beta males with weak immune systems.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Uh...thanks dr scooby

Not a Dr. As I understand it, however, containment is a key part of the protocols for a pandemic. We have containment failure in the United States.

 

[rufus]

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Rumor has it that REAL men don't get COVID. Only snowflake beta males with weak immune systems.

that's me.

 

[SJHovey]

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Of course, if they are down then one would actually be taking that difference out of the smaller "before" number. If the idea is to establish how many people have died of COVID-19, then a drop in auto deaths can mask a higher COVID lethality.

If the idea is to establish the net effect of COVID-19, including changes in other forms of mortality driven by COVID-19, you just leave them in. All deaths count the same. But remember, if you die of a third condition you're giving a half death to COVID.

Obviously a very small sample size, but Minnesota has seen a surge in traffic deaths, not a decrease, since shelter in place was implemented. This has occurred despite lower traffic and accident numbers.

The theory, for what it's worth, is that with fewer cars on the road, drivers feel like they can drive significantly faster, and as the saying goes, speed kills.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Not a Dr. As I understand it, however, containment is a key part of the protocols for a pandemic. We have containment failure in the United States.

A good portion of pop was probably always going to be exposed, it’s the percentage that varies. France now says it treated its first case in December, meaning even more time this monster was spreading.

 

[rufus]

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Obviously a very small sample size, but Minnesota has seen a surge in traffic deaths, not a decrease, since shelter in place was implemented. This has occurred despite lower traffic and accident numbers.

The theory, for what it's worth, is that with fewer cards on the road, drivers feel like they can drive significantly faster, and as the saying goes, speed kills.

Also shows you that in general, Americans are stupid. In a crisis, they can't be depended upon to do the right thing.

And so, here we are.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Obviously a very small sample size, but Minnesota has seen a surge in traffic deaths, not a decrease, since shelter in place was implemented. This has occurred despite lower traffic and accident numbers.

The theory, for what it's worth, is that with fewer cards on the road, drivers feel like they can drive significantly faster, and as the saying goes, speed kills.

Coincidentally I’ve been getting out on the bike more! But lots of teenage boys going vroom vroom and speeding

 

[dxmnkd316]

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We're gonna do the Sweden method, whether we want to or not.

Thanks Donnie. Elections have consequences.

In personal news, I'm staying home from work again. Woke up with a weird, splitting headache yesterday that hasn't gone away, and since going back to bed after calling the boss, have had the chills. Temp of 98.7 though, so don't know what to make of it all.

Didn’t you go through something like this earlier and thought it might have been covid? There was one person on here and I thought it was you.

 

[rufus]

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Yes, indeed. At this point, it's just an overabundance of caution. Paranoia. Whatever.

Maybe the stress of this all is getting to me. Open it up!!!

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

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I have had two friends last week get hit- fever, headaches, unable to talk and sleeping most of day. As of last week, MN wouldn’t test them unless they needed to be hospitalized so both stayed home and didn’t get tested

 

[rufus]

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I have had two friends last week get hit- fever, headaches, unable to talk and sleeping most of day. As of last week, MN wouldn’t test them unless they needed to be hospitalized so both stayed home and didn’t get tested

I'm not even thinking about trying to get tested unless I get the really high fever and the breathing issues that come with it. So far, the breathing is good. But I pretty much know at this point if I'm gonna go, it'll most likely be pneumonia or some similar.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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Obviously a very small sample size, but Minnesota has seen a surge in traffic deaths, not a decrease, since shelter in place was implemented. This has occurred despite lower traffic and accident numbers.

The theory, for what it's worth, is that with fewer cards on the road, drivers feel like they can drive significantly faster, and as the saying goes, speed kills.

I think you’re right. Hasn’t the number of 100+ MPH tickets gone WAY up?

 

[SJHovey]

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I think you’re right. Hasn’t the number of 100+ MPH tickets gone WAY up?

I hadn't heard that but it wouldn't surprise me.

My next door neighbor is a highway patrolman. I talked to him last Saturday and he told me there was a day last week where he drove seven miles on the interstate and didn't see a car, so obviously traffic must be way down.

 

[rufus]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trump out here moving the goalposts on coronavirus deaths like an auctioneer <a href="https://t.co/nb6Eo92MYJ">pic.twitter.com/nb6Eo92MYJ</a></p>— The Daily Show (@TheDailyShow) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1257451473597870081?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[aparch]

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Speeds are up on the Illinois Tollway. State Troopers have resorted to sitting in the median with their lights on just to get traffic to slow down.

 

[rufus]

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We're gonna do the Sweden method, whether we want to or not.

Thanks Donnie. Elections have consequences.

In personal news, I'm staying home from work again. Woke up with a weird, splitting headache yesterday that hasn't gone away, and since going back to bed after calling the boss, have had the chills. Temp of 98.7 though, so don't know what to make of it all.

https://theweek.com/articles/912546/trump-pursuing-herd-immunity-strategy--whether-intentionally-not

However, there is a darker possibility. Officials could be pursuing a different strategy to defeat the virus: herd immunity. If roughly two-thirds of the population contracts the virus (and if the resulting antibodies are both universal and long-lasting, which is not at all clear), then statistically the virus will not find enough new victims to perpetuate itself, and will eventually die out. The New York Times reports that even as Trump urges states to re-open, his own analysts behind the scenes are predicting 200,000 daily new cases and 3,000 deaths per day by the end of June — which is what someone pursing a herd immunity strategy would do. The problem is that, as scientists Carl T. Bergstrom and Natalie Dean explain in the Times, it will take months for the statistics to shake out, and the eventual infection rate will rise well past two-thirds — likely about 80-90 percent. With a U.S. population of about 330 million and the most recent estimates of infection fatality rate of about 1 percent, that means something like 2.6 to 3 million Americans dying.

Even if Trump is not actively aiming at herd immunity, there is no indication that he is even considering the test, track, and isolate option, let alone starting to construct the elaborate and efficient bureaucracy that would be needed. Neither is there any sign that he would be capable of doing such a thing even if he wanted to.

Be proud, Republicans.