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Cops 5: Barney Fife, Now in Real Life!

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dxmnkd316 said:
Agreed. But why can they be turned off in the first place?
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I would guess the amount of data/cost/etc, of worthless footage; like a cop just radaring people for speeding for an hour.....that sorta thing.
 
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Brenthoven said:
I would guess the amount of data/cost/etc, of worthless footage; like a cop just radaring people for speeding for an hour.....that sorta thing.
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It's not that much storage if you're not taking video in HD. For the most part, that shouldn't be necessary. Also, you have a month or two of backup data stored, and then when a challenge is made, that video gets copied onto long-term storage for use in any investigation and/or trial. And files can be zipped. In addition to that, they don't need to have the camera recording 24/7, only when in the process of making contact with someone.
 
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St. Clown said:
It's not that much storage if you're not taking video in HD. For the most part, that shouldn't be necessary. Also, you have a month or two of backup data stored, and then when a challenge is made, that video gets copied onto long-term storage for use in any investigation and/or trial. And files can be zipped. In addition to that, they don't need to have the camera recording 24/7, only when in the process of making contact with someone.
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I agree they should be on in the case of any interaction with another person. DX had asked why they can be even turned off in the first place....
 
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St. Clown said:
It's not that much storage if you're not taking video in HD. For the most part, that shouldn't be necessary. Also, you have a month or two of backup data stored, and then when a challenge is made, that video gets copied onto long-term storage for use in any investigation and/or trial. And files can be zipped. In addition to that, they don't need to have the camera recording 24/7, only when in the process of making contact with someone.
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I had previously argued that it was too much storage. I still think it will be expensive. I was also arguing that under the assumption people who turned it off would be punished.

I was dumb.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
I had previously argued that it was too much storage. I still think it will be expensive. I was also arguing that under the assumption people who turned it off would be punished.

I was dumb.
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It will be expensive, but I think it could be a manageable expense, and soon come to be an expected expense as cities find it harder and harder to get insurers to cover them until insurance riders regarding body cams and usage dictations become the norm in those contracts.
 
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It would seem a bit odd for a city to complain about the expense of cameras and digital storage at the same time so many of them are paying out tens of millions of dollars a year in wrongful death settlements when cops shoot unarmed citizens.
 
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I have always assumed the reason body cameras are turned off and on in normal operation is battery life. Battery life for continuous recording is 2-3 hours on a GoPro for example. Outside of any possible nefarious reasons, cops in some of these high stress situations would have to remember the step of turning them on, which I imagine is something a long time cop is not used to thinking about in the first place.
 
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jerphisch said:
Is because when you leave them on they end up taping things like this.
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It's far worse than that. Before cameras there was no evidence of police brutality. Now there is. Clearly, the cameras are committing the police brutality.
 
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Yeah if that dude was black he is dead about 5 seconds into that video and all of the cop defenders would be talking about how it was justified and the criminal was stupid and asked for it.

Just like the Stanford rapist...White Privilege Justice is a completely different game.
 
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Handyman said:
Yeah if that dude was black he is dead about 5 seconds into that video and all of the cop defenders would be talking about how it was justified and the criminal was stupid and asked for it.

Just like the Stanford rapist...White Privilege Justice is a completely different game.
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One note: I think the Stanford thing is all about rich folk privilege, not necessarily white privilege. How many non-white athletes get slaps on the wrist? And that is one whole 'nother ballgame we're talking about.
 
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Brenthoven said:
One note: I think the Stanford thing is all about rich folk privilege, not necessarily white privilege. How many non-white athletes get slaps on the wrist? And that is one whole 'nother ballgame we're talking about.
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Yes, it was a class thing.
 
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If the Stanford rapist was a basketball or football player (i.e. Black) he is in prison for life. It is more than just class dont fool yourself into thinking otherwise.

(unless they go to Baylor)
 
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Completely disagree on the Stanford rape thing. It is not class or race in that instance, it is pure misogyny. Rape is still seen as barely a crime, unless it is a brutal violent rape. A drunk girl with a shirt skirt was asking for it, so he barely did anything wrong.
 
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An Indianapolis firefighter did this to rescue a kitten. It was an abandoned house, and it was a kitten. Think about that when you ponder the timeline of the Las Vegas shooting and wonder about the hour -- the fvcking HOUR -- it allegedly took them to enter the room after the sounds of shooting stopped. To bestow the title of hero on cops just because they wear a badge is a mystery.

Just two days ago in Akron, OH firefighters arrived at the scene of a burning house and a woman screaming that her two children were still inside. Within seconds of the arrival of of a second apparatus firefighters went into the house and rescued the two children. Unfortunately the kids are in critical condition, but had they waited just a few minutes to make entry -- or an hour to maybe let the fire burn itself out a little -- those children would not have had even the small chance at recovery they have now. Waiting just minutes would have cost them their lives.

Did the firefighters complain about being asked to go on a "suicide mission?" No. They answered the call they promised to answer. Maybe the firetrucks are the municipal vehicles that need to be covered with the logo "to protect and serve."
 
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