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Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

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Handyman said:
Exactly. The kid was in the wrong for fleeing but he didnt deserve to die over that. And in this case the cops actions all were in manner that was going to lead to that. They got angry so they tazered the punk and assaulted him and never cared to even see if he was ok until it was obvious he was dead. They didnt act as cops they acted as a gang of teenagers going after the guy who hit on the leaders girlfriend.

And what will stink is they will defend themselves saying they "feqred for their safety" and that they "followed protocol". This will cause those that already fear cops to only fear them more. (especially if it works) It will also undermine other officers when they make the same claim legitimately.
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Jury nullification is a two way street, and there are plenty that will acquit solely for the magic badge. Only takes one.
 
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We have a chicago thread. It's on like page 5 or 6 of the Cafe. It has Old Pio in the title.
 
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So if I am reading that right...the Justice Department, a GOP lead FEDERAL department is going to tell cities and states how the cops and the communities will act? They will force them to withdraw the decrees that were put in place to help the communities and police better communicate and deal with each other?

Party of smaller government indeed. All small c conservatives that vote GOP are suckers.
 
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Handyman said:
So if I am reading that right...the Justice Department, a GOP lead FEDERAL department is going to tell cities and states how the cops and the communities will act? They will force them to withdraw the decrees that were put in place to help the communities and police better communicate and deal with each other?

Party of smaller government indeed. All small c conservatives that vote GOP are suckers.
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And they're not going to be bothered about a few bad apples.
 
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Handyman said:
So if I am reading that right...the Justice Department, a GOP lead FEDERAL department is going to tell cities and states how the cops and the communities will act? They will force them to withdraw the decrees that were put in place to help the communities and police better communicate and deal with each other?

Party of smaller government indeed. All small c conservatives that vote GOP are suckers.
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States Rights!
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
It's appalling that this isn't illegal
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Kirsten Hunter said her 3-year-old son, Aksel, was forcefully catheterized at the Avera hospital in Pierre in late February after her boyfriend failed a urine analysis. Authorities wanted to have her and her two children tested to see if they also had drugs in their system.

“I didn’t actually think they were going to go through with it. Even when we went to the hospital, I thought it was a threat.”
Dirk Sparks
Pierre police officers and a Department of Social Services employee showed up at her home and said if her kids couldn't produce urine, they would be taken from her. Hunter said her son isn’t potty-trained. So while she and her 5-year-old daughter were able to provide a urine sample, her young son couldn't.

He was held down and forcibly catheterized by nurses.

“They just shoved it right up there, and he screamed so bad,” Hunter said. “He’s still dealing with a staph infection, and we are still giving him medication.”
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I'm at a total loss for words.
 
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SonofSouthie said:
I'm at a total loss for words.
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I put a lot of blame on the healthcare professionals. If someone asked me to do that, I would kindly tell them to **** off. It is entirely unethical. As a physician, my duty is to the patient first, not to the criminal justice system.
 
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For a minor, absolutely this is appalling.

I am unsure about what I think for an adult, if a warrant is obtained. It's like a blood-test warrant, etc. In the adult's case, would a blood test have given the same info as a urine test? If not, how else would that certain information be collected? If it can be collected another way, then I am against the forced procedures.
 
Brenthoven said:
For a minor, absolutely this is appalling.

I am unsure about what I think for an adult, if a warrant is obtained. It's like a blood-test warrant, etc. In the adult's case, would a blood test have given the same info as a urine test? If not, how else would that certain information be collected? If it can be collected another way, then I am against the forced procedures.
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I don't care what the case is that is too far. I don't care if blood can't help forced catherization is ridiculous. Criminals have rights too.
 
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