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Contact to the Head

Re: Contact to the Head

I agree with you 100% about getting rid of the full shield and have been saying it for years. The "Cage courage" you speak of is 100% correct. I think I am going to steal that from you and start using it.:)

I heard it right from the mouth of legendary BU coach Jack Parker, so credit him, not me. :)
 
Re: Contact to the Head

Like most calls in hockey there has to be some judgment on the part of the referees. If a ref feels that a player was trying to injure another player that should be a game misconduct with no hesitation at all on the ref's part. Players trying to injure other players don't deserve to play. There are guys in the NHL like that--they should be kicked out of the league. It's like anything else in life--judges, refs, government officials, business managers--if the people in charge have brains then it works. Any fan can tell the difference between a dirty hit with intent to injure and a clean one. If a ref can't tell the difference he shoud find something else to do.

I agree with you completely that intent to injure deserves a suspension, permanently on the second offense. The problem is that the rule, as it is currently written, makes no mention of intent. In fact, if you watch the NCAA video, it is very clear that any contact to the head is to be called a major penalty and game misconduct. With all the attention that concussions are getting these days, you can bet that the NCAA is not going to be happy with the current enforcement of the rule and it will change during the season. I watched 2 games Saturday evening and honestly only saw one check where the point of impact was above the neck. It was called a minor for roughing; this was not the intent of the rule. However, the fact that I only saw one hit to the head may mean that players are being more cognizant of head contact.

The NHFS and NFL have both set precedent with their contact to the head rules (NFHS in several sports and NFL obviously in football). The onus has clearly been shifted from the player being hit to the player doing the hitting to make sure there is not head contact. There is the argument that a player cannot stop on a dime, which is true, but the hitter is going to be expected to. Almost every sports medicine and AD meeting in high schools these days has concussions as a point of discussion. Since the summer, we have had almost a dozen high schools sign up with my ambulance service for HS football game coverage (the past NFHS rule required either an ambulance or MD) and some have even extended the ambulance requirement to soccer, lax, and hockey games. The good news ... Army contracted us for the first time to cover their hockey games.

It definitely seems to me that refs are rule as they were instructed to. It may not be fair, but if the force of the hit is to the head or neck, it must be a major penalty, regardless of intent. I think the only place where judgment comes in is if the contact was centered at or below the shoulders but the head was involved. These hits are much less likely to cause concussion syndrome (or worse).
 
Re: Contact to the Head

I agree with you completely that intent to injure deserves a suspension, permanently on the second offense. The problem is that the rule, as it is currently written, makes no mention of intent. In fact, if you watch the NCAA video, it is very clear that any contact to the head is to be called a major penalty and game misconduct. With all the attention that concussions are getting these days, you can bet that the NCAA is not going to be happy with the current enforcement of the rule and it will change during the season. I watched 2 games Saturday evening and honestly only saw one check where the point of impact was above the neck. It was called a minor for roughing; this was not the intent of the rule. However, the fact that I only saw one hit to the head may mean that players are being more cognizant of head contact.

The NHFS and NFL have both set precedent with their contact to the head rules (NFHS in several sports and NFL obviously in football). The onus has clearly been shifted from the player being hit to the player doing the hitting to make sure there is not head contact. There is the argument that a player cannot stop on a dime, which is true, but the hitter is going to be expected to. Almost every sports medicine and AD meeting in high schools these days has concussions as a point of discussion. Since the summer, we have had almost a dozen high schools sign up with my ambulance service for HS football game coverage (the past NFHS rule required either an ambulance or MD) and some have even extended the ambulance requirement to soccer, lax, and hockey games. The good news ... Army contracted us for the first time to cover their hockey games.

It definitely seems to me that refs are rule as they were instructed to. It may not be fair, but if the force of the hit is to the head or neck, it must be a major penalty, regardless of intent. I think the only place where judgment comes in is if the contact was centered at or below the shoulders but the head was involved. These hits are much less likely to cause concussion syndrome (or worse).

With the NFL, I believe the biggest one discussed is "helmet-to-helmet" hitting, which is now a mandatory fine and suspension. Luckily we don't have any players leading with their head (at least in the games I've watched), as that could really be severely injuring the hitter's neck. We'll see if the next thing they try is to institute some sort of "tuck rule", where you're only allowed to lead a shoulder or side of the body rather than push off (although there is the cross-checking rule, and that could already tie in there).
 
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I'd tend to think that the NCAA recognizes that the "medical insuance" industry generally (and ridiculously) never includes "dental" coverage. Sure, an emergency room doctor will stop your bleeding. But someone's gonna have to pay for the crowns, bridges and dentures. No doubt there are more modern players with most of their teeth than in the past. I'd have to believe that full face shields have contributed to that in some small measure. Perhaps it isn't a big factor in the NCAA's decision. Or is the NCAA a bunch of anti-dentites scheming to keep it's players out of dental chairs?
 
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