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College Football 2024

I think PSU should get bumped. They've yet to beat a top 25 team. Key wins are Minnesota and USC. Like, sorry, that's just not very good.

SMU at least has a win against Louisville. Alabama has a couple headline wins.

So you've got Oregon, UGA, Boise, ASU, and Clemson.
Notre Dame, Texas, OSU.

that's where I think the line gets murky. PSU, Indiana, SMU, TN, and Alabama all have marks against them.

I think in the end I go with SMU, Alabama, TN, and Indiana

ETA: obviously PSU gets in, they beat everyone except Oregon. But like, I think we should reward teams that go out and schedule big name non-conference if there needs to be a tiebreaker. I know several of the teams didn't do that, but they also had wins again top 25 teams, usually multiple. Wins should be prioritized above all else.
 
Can't complain much with the Committee's rankings so far. They didn't punish Texas or Penn State (#5 and #6 seeds respectively) for losing their conference championships at the expense of Notre Dame (who did not play).

Bodes well for SMU...
 
Glad to see SMU get in.

I'm getting a bit of a kick out of certain Alabama fans (including Nick Saban) throwing a fit about strength of schedule, and how this decision will change how teams schedule non-conference opponents.

Well, Alabama's non-conference schedule this season was:

Western Kentucky
South Florida
Wisconsin (5-7 this year)
Mercer (FCS)

Not exactly some murderer's row.
 
Fighting Sioux 23 said:
Glad to see SMU get in.

I'm getting a bit of a kick out of certain Alabama fans (including Nick Saban) throwing a fit about strength of schedule, and how this decision will change how teams schedule non-conference opponents.

Well, Alabama's non-conference schedule this season was:

Western Kentucky
South Florida
Wisconsin (5-7 this year)
Mercer (FCS)

Not exactly some murderer's row.
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Alabama's SOS was objectively very strong this year. But otherwise I agree.

before this weekend, their KRACH-based SOS was top 9 or 10.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Alabama's SOS was objectively very strong this year. But otherwise I agree.

before this weekend, their KRACH-based SOS was top 9 or 10.
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That is because of their conference schedule (where they were barely above .500). Not their non-conference schedule. The point being made by Alabama fans was that the committee's decision to take SMU over Alabama would lead teams to reduce the strength of their non-conference scheduling. Alabama's non-conference schedule was weak.
 
Fighting Sioux 23 said:
Glad to see SMU get in.

I'm getting a bit of a kick out of certain Alabama fans (including Nick Saban) throwing a fit about strength of schedule, and how this decision will change how teams schedule non-conference opponents.

Well, Alabama's non-conference schedule this season was:

Western Kentucky
South Florida
Wisconsin (5-7 this year)
Mercer (FCS)

Not exactly some murderer's row.
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Alabama wasn't worn down by the game before Oklahoma. That was Mercer. You then got punched in the face and lost by 21 to a 6 loss team.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Indiana vs Notre Dame is absolute madness. This is the first time I've thought the CFP was a good thing.
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As a Hoosier fan, someone who has witnessed literally the worst power 5 program by a large margin (sorry, Vanderbilt) in 125 years, it’s absolute madness. I drove 26 hours roundtrip to Tempe, AZ, with my sister when Indiana made its first bowl game in something like 14 years in 2007. If I didn’t have two young kids, I’d be in South Bend on 12/20.
 
Fighting Sioux 23 said:
That is because of their conference schedule (where they were barely above .500). Not their non-conference schedule. The point being made by Alabama fans was that the committee's decision to take SMU over Alabama would lead teams to reduce the strength of their non-conference scheduling. Alabama's non-conference schedule was weak.
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And they use that every single season. Drives me crazy. No matter the outcome of the Vandy game- lose because the conference it tough, win because they are tough.

Whats kind of funny is how bad espn treats the acc, even though they televise them too.
 
Fighting Sioux 23 said:
That is because of their conference schedule (where they were barely above .500). Not their non-conference schedule. The point being made by Alabama fans was that the committee's decision to take SMU over Alabama would lead teams to reduce the strength of their non-conference scheduling. Alabama's non-conference schedule was weak.
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Right but so what? Why would you overload your schedule even more than a top ten SOS?

no different than any other team in the playoffs.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Right but so what? Why would you overload your schedule even more than a top ten SOS?

no different than any other team in the playoffs.
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Perhaps I'm not explaining it very well.

Alabama is complaining about not making it into the Playoff, and it (along with other SEC schools) is threatening to downgrade its future non-conference schedule.

However, Alabama had a cake walk of a non-conference schedule this year. Alabama (and the SEC in general) has a notorious history of having a fairly easy non-conference lineup.

Therefore, Alabama's threat is comical.
 
Fighting Sioux 23 said:
Perhaps I'm not explaining it very well.

Alabama is complaining about not making it into the Playoff, and it (along with other SEC schools) is threatening to downgrade its future non-conference schedule.

However, Alabama had a cake walk of a non-conference schedule this year. Alabama (and the SEC in general) has a notorious history of having a fairly easy non-conference lineup.

Therefore, Alabama's threat is comical.
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I missed the threat about further weakening their non-conf. If that's the case, fine. Don't cry when SOS keeps you (them) out.

point taken. I misunderstood.
 
Was hoping BC would get a warm weather site so I could take my broken down body and a lady friend. But, they'll be in da Bronx playing Nebraska.
 
Fighting Sioux 23 said:
Perhaps I'm not explaining it very well.

Alabama is complaining about not making it into the Playoff, and it (along with other SEC schools) is threatening to downgrade its future non-conference schedule.

However, Alabama had a cake walk of a non-conference schedule this year. Alabama (and the SEC in general) has a notorious history of having a fairly easy non-conference lineup.

Therefore, Alabama's threat is comical.
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It’s not just bama that does that, the rest of the sec regularly schedules a Big Sky team. Not only that, the conference generally has their super soft non conference game with two games remaining on the schedule.

Basically, they schedule a bye right when they really need some time off.

I hope they follow up on the threat- DII schools would appreciate a big pay day, since that’s the only way to get softer than they already are.

And I know that Oregon played Idaho this year, but that was scheduled before Oregon joined the B1G. (The B1G doesn’t like their teams playing d1aa schools).
 
MichVandal said:
It’s not just bama that does that, the rest of the sec regularly schedules a Big Sky team. Not only that, the conference generally has their super soft non conference game with two games remaining on the schedule.

Basically, they schedule a bye right when they really need some time off.

I hope they follow up on the threat- DII schools would appreciate a big pay day, since that’s the only way to get softer than they already are.

And I know that Oregon played Idaho this year, but that was scheduled before Oregon joined the B1G. (The B1G doesn’t like their teams playing d1aa schools).
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Worth noting that even with the non-conference schedule Alabama had, they still had an aggregate SOS just better than Michigan.

I don't think the big ten cares about FCS anymore. Half the teams played FCS schools this year.

edit: actually it was just Michigan, PSU, and OSU that didn't play fcs.
 
Initially the Big Ten said no FCS teams and you need to have a P5 school every year. But when they went to 9 conference games they changed that so if you only had four conference home games you could schedule an FCS team. And now I have no idea if that rule is still in place with no divisions. Might still be since there is still a 5/4 home road split every year.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Worth noting that even with the non-conference schedule Alabama had, they still had an aggregate SOS just better than Michigan.
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That’s just because people think the sec is so much stronger than the B1G. Michigan scheduled Texas out of conference. Which is better than bama did for each team.

And how much of the sec non conference record is because of the sun belt teams they play???

Indiana got knocked v PSU because of their perception, so that even is bad in the B1G.

If the sec wants to lower their non conference game even more, bring it on.
 
MichVandal said:
That’s just because people think the sec is so much stronger than the B1G. Michigan scheduled Texas out of conference. Which is better than bama did for each team.

And how much of the sec non conference record is because of the sun belt teams they play???

Indiana got knocked v PSU because of their perception, so that even is bad in the B1G.

If the sec wants to lower their non conference game even more, bring it on.
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I think you misunderstand. These are objective computer ratings, not human ratings. They take all of this into account.
 
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